[acerboo]

Originally Posted by NBTBRV8

I can help you with this as I did this retrofit to my E46 M3 in January. The cars aren't wired, and the seats do not have the elements in them. BMW aren't silly they won't waste money by putting in wiring for an option not selected as it costs them money.

Here is the DIY post for the E46http://www.m3torque.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1111

I am thinking seriously about doing this to my mother's E90 320i and got the EBA guide this morning. It looks straight forward.

can you do a similar guide for the e90 it would be most appreciated thanks in advance

[hdrewh]

separate but similar questions for me...

have: '09 E90 premium, non-sport, non-heated seats
buying: sport seats off an '09 with premium and heat.

1. expecting/hoping everything on the seats will work except obviously the heat

2. since the new seats will have all heat-related components what would be required to retrofit the switches and related wiring to get the heat working?

Thanks,
Howard

[acerboo]

Originally Posted by NBTBRV8

No it's not as the retrofit kit comes with the looms required, at least for non sports seats anyway.

Easiest way to tell is look at the pin outs on plugs X279 and X275 under yor seat.

i have a new set of heated seats to replace my non heated ones the plugs on the originals and the new ones both seem to have the same number of pins do you think this means they are already wired for the heaters thanks both seats are sport

[NBTBRV8]

Originally Posted by acerboo

i have a new set of heated seats to replace my non heated ones the plugs on the originals and the new ones both seem to have the same number of pins do you think this means they are already wired for the heaters thanks both seats are sport

No I highly doubt it. If you go an have a look at the pin out on http://www.bmw-planet.com/diagrams/release/en/ I think you'll find not.

[acerboo]

just took one of the seat covers off to find the heat elements are sewn into the leather covers so seats are no good to me as i want to change the covers to my colour will try to get the oem elements from the retro kit all a bit of a hasle really not sure if its worth it

[toddhec]

I have a question about the modules that perhaps someone could help with. I'm going to go ahead and just buy the new seat module that I need to control the heated seats but it is not clear which one to get. If I search REALOEM I get the following:

for vehicles with
Seat heating driver/passenger
and
El. front seat adjustment w. memory = No
----------
DRIVER AND CO-DRIVER
S494A=Yes

S459A=No
03 Seat module 2 61356926435 $83.11
For vehicles with
El. front seat adjustment w. memory
and
Seat heating driver/passenger
----------
DRIVER AND CO-DRIVER
S459A=Yes

S494A=Yes
03 Seat module 2 03/2009 61359134662 ENDED
For vehicles with
El. front seat adjustment w. memory
and
Seat heating driver/passenger = No
----------
DRIVER AND CO-DRIVER
S459A=Yes

S494A=No
03 Seat module 2 03/2009 61359134662 ENDED
For vehicles with
El. front seat adjustment w. memory
and
Seat heating driver/passenger
----------
DRIVER AND CO-DRIVER
S459A=Yes

S494A=Yes
03 Seat module 2 03/2009 61359134667 ENDED
For vehicles with
El. front seat adjustment w. memory
and
Seat heating driver/passenger = No
----------
DRIVER AND CO-DRIVER
S459A=Yes

S494A=No
03 Seat module 2 03/2009 61359134667 ENDED
For vehicles with
El. front seat adjustment w. memory
and
Seat heating driver/passenger
----------
DRIVER AND CO-DRIVER
S459A=Yes

S494A=Yes
03 Seat module 2 03/2009 61359148265 $332.35
For vehicles with
El. front seat adjustment w. memory
and
Seat heating driver/passenger = No
----------
DRIVER AND CO-DRIVER
S459A=Yes

S494A=No
03 Seat module 2 03/2009 61359148265 $332.35



so there are several part numbers for cars with memory+heated seats. some of the parts are listed as "ended" and there is only one part that you can buy with memory+heated seats. Part # 61359148265 for $332.35. Is the assumption that this part will work with all e92s? why are the others ended? anyone have any insight?

[rubber_ducky]

has anybody here made any progress at all? Still working on this?

[Booster4075]

I'm still working on it, but at this point, I'm just trying to procure a couple of seat modules for a reasonable price. All the salvage yards I've talked to won't sell them (heated/memory modules) without the seats as a package deal. They are quite expensive new..

[MalM3]

here is the pdf of the retro fit,
http://www.mediafire.com/?zxfzyvnztzt

Part ns for the standard seats without memory is 6111 0428194
Part nr for the standard seats with memory is 6111 0405003
There is no part nr for the sport seats, sorry

The switch panel part nr for control is 6131 918181 or 6131 918182 spec dependant

And the car must be coded

[MalM3]

Part list for the 194 set

01 29 0 017 969 Stick-on label EBA-AUFKL. GELB 1
07 14 7 148 547 Fillister head screw M4X8 4
52 10 7 140 863 Bracket, control unit 2
61 12 0 398 203 Retrofit cable set, heated seat 1
61 13 1 367 599 Cable strap L=200MM/B=3,6MM 20
61 13 1 372 628 Fuse 30A 2
61 13 6 917 401 Fuse Mini, yellow-brown 5A 1
61 13 8 364 566 Connector, double 2
61 35 6 926 435 Seat module 2
64 11 7 140 535 Heating element, basic seat cloth 2
64 11 7 140 536 Heating element, basic backrest 2
01 29 0 405 002 Installation instructions 1
61 13 6 925 555 Stiftgehaeuse 9mqs, 4PQ 1

[MalM3]

Part list for the 003 set

01 29 0 017 969 Stick-on label EBA-AUFKL. GELB 1
07 14 7 148 547 Fillister head screw M4X8 2
52 10 7 140 863 Bracket, control unit 1
61 12 0 398 203 Retrofit cable set, heated seat 1
61 13 1 367 599 Cable strap L=200MM/B=3,6MM 20
61 13 1 372 628 Fuse 30A 2
61 13 6 917 401 Fuse Mini, yellow-brown 5A 1
61 13 8 364 566 Connector, double 2
61 35 6 926 359 Seat module 1
61 35 6 926 435 Seat module 1
64 11 7 140 535 Heating element, basic seat cloth 2
64 11 7 140 536 Heating element, basic backrest 2
01 29 0 405 002 Installation instructions 1
61 13 6 925 555 Stiftgehaeuse 9mqs, 4PQ 1

[gr8899]

Mallard, Wow, hoping that's the information I need for my E87 heated seats retrofit project. Thanks.

I am buying a complete sports interior from a salvage yard, and they are heated and I will make sure I get the seat modules and heated seats buttons included. However, what I am sure I will need, is the retrofit cable set separately from the retrofit kit. However, using the part numbers you supplied for the cable set in the post over, say 61 12 0 398 203, I get no hits in ETK.

Anyone know why? Is it not possible to buy the retrofit cable set separately?

Also, do you have the part list for retrofit kit 61 12 0 398 203 (E87)? Possibly the same as the E9x kits (as the retrofit instructions for E9x also includes E87), but it would be nice to have it confirmed...

[MalM3]

ive not been able to call the number up separate on the ETk either :?
But it is a component of the set ..

[knappy75]

Hello everyone. Hopefully I can add to this thread, as I have been working on a heated seat retrofit for four days. I recently purchased an 07 E90 (328i) with Nav but no heated seats. Not having them is NOT an option for my wife. Since I am "OCD", I opted to spend more money and track down OEM parts. I have secured a retrofit kit from Roveractive (online), and the surround bezel and switches from my local dealer. This should be all of the parts you need. NOTE-I have non-sport seats, FYI. Here's my snag. My dealer tells me that the retrofit kit is from Germany (they have confirmed the US version kit is not available), and they do NOT have coding to be able to support this. I am stuck! I would prefer not to have someone hack into my wiring and put in aftermarket, and it would probably take me awhile to find all the parts I need via salvage, not to mention money involved. Let me know if anyone can confirm this or not, as the person I am ordering the kit from said the dealer can indeed code it correctly, they have just not done it before and may be reluctant. Thanks! Eric

[stratplaya06]

Contact Patrys. He's the man for coding stuff that these US dealers can't.

I am having him code my PDC retrofit when I get my bumper repainted.

[knappy75]

Thanks for the info. I was told by my dealership that a "bigger" dealership might be able to do it. I have left a message for a Dallas, TX dealer. Evidently little ole Tulsa, OK just can't do it. I'll send Patrys a msg.

[VP Electricity]

Your dealership is probably incorrect. BMW edited down the US dealer SW. You can also go Autologic. It's based on EU SW. But Patrys would be my first choice.

[knappy75]

Thanks for the info VP. I have spoken to Patrys via e-mail and he will be doing the coding once installed. I'll let everyone know when it's done if anyone has questions. Retrofit kit will be on its way next week from Roveractive-$449.99. I am electing to buy all new, so surround bezel ($50.00 ish) and dash switches ($272.00 ish) will be purchased from dealer. After install (instructions look doable myself, but am warming up to my dealer now to at least have them install), I will have coded by Patrys. Total price with install and coding should be around $1200 or $1300. Probably not the cheapest way to go, but will be completely OEM. I may order the switches online used and save some money also. Thanks to everyone in the past for their posts. Got me going in the right direction! Eric

[hdrewh]

knappy75, looks like you can't receive PMs yet, I left a 'visitor message' for you asking a specific question on this topic - please take a look. Thanks.

[knappy75]

hdrewh,
Sorry for posting this as a post to the thread, but I have sat here with a dumbfounded look on my face, trying to figure out how to reply to your visitor message, and I guess it just isn't happening. Since the conversation wasn't "personal or private", so to speak, I am going to just reply here. Hopefully that will work. It's going to be tough to figure out exactly what you still need since you have the seat part taken care of. I won't have the kit mailed to me for a couple of weeks, but I can go over the parts with you, or visitor msg me with your e-mail and I will e-mail you the PDF instructions. I believe they are posted earlier in the thread. It shows a breakdown of what parts are involved. I know there are different modules involved under the seat. As for switches, since I have Nav, I have to change the surround bezel around my radio and Nav CD hole, since the lower portion is just blank now. The new piece will have the hole for the actual switches, which is just a thin piece of black plastic with the switches at each end, the LED's, and a data cable coming out from it. That just plugs in behind, into a spot where the climate control harness is. My reading tells me the spot to plug it in is already there. My dealer has the switches for $272, and the surround bezel for $50. Justin at Roveractive has these, but is slightly higher. His retrofit kit is not on his website, nor E-bay which is where I originally found him. It is a special order part for him. You can e-mail or call him and order with Paypal or credit card. Nice guy to work with. Bottom line for you after switches and new bezel, is..is it possible to figure out which pieces you still need out of that kit, and can you get them separately? Or are you going to have to eat the $449.99. Hopefully that helped a little. I will try to post some relevant information, not crap, so I can PM. I am retrofitting heated seats, alarm, IPhone cradle/docking station, and putting on new OEM 18" wheels. Hopefully I can help out someone. I owe a lot already to many people here. Eric

[MalM3]

try spacing the sentences up mate.
i gave up reading mid line 4 ..

[knappy75]

Sorry....got a problem with giving "too" much info. sometimes...