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      07-21-2019, 06:54 PM   #199
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What do I do if the 6 pin connector at the clock spring has all the wires in it?

Looks like both paddles go thru the switches.

Steering wheel was out of 09 335
Go back and read my post on the second part. I mention what to do with pin #2 and #4.
Read it multiple time, until you memorize it
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      09-19-2019, 12:06 AM   #200
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Alright. Thanks to all the info here, I was able to finish this early this week.
Haven't had the chance to post the steps I took.

The bottom line, regardless if you bought a whole steering wheel with paddles and multi function buttons from a wreck etc. or if you collected parts and put them together; you will need to modify the steering wheel wiring.
It's not just the modification to the plug at the bottom of the clockspring that needs to be modified. Again, the steering wheel wiring needs to be adjusted as it was posted by Zaphood earlier. And no need for $100 USD harness, unless you don't want to cut any wires.

So here it is:
  1. Remove front trim. To do so, remove the three torx screws in the back
  2. Once removed you will have easy access to each paddle shifter plug that connects to each multi function button
  3. Grab a towel/microfiber towel and pliers so you don't damage the plug
  4. Remove the paddle plugs from the multi function buttons
  5. Remove pin #6 on the multi function plug that connects to the clockspring. I only needed to remove this one
  6. You can now follow the diagram for the wiring, but here is the description:
  7. Each paddle plug has 3 pins, forget pin #1
  8. Make a connection from one paddle pin #2 to the other paddle #2 and connect another one in the middle -or something. basically a T wiring (sorry not sure what it's called)
  9. Connect this to the airbag ground
  10. Do the same T wiring to pin #3 on the paddles and connect this to pin #6 on the multi function plug
  11. This wiring concludes the part on the steering wheel

Next is the connection from the clockspring to the gear shifter
  1. Take out the plug at the bottom of the clockspring
  2. Find pins #2 & #4
  3. If they are filled; then remove them (I don't like cutting if I can avoid it)
  4. Insert around 1 meter long wire in each pin (2 & 4)
  5. Tap one to the purple wire on the shifter harness and the other to the blue one

That's it. Huge thanks to everyone for their posts, comments, and help.
I'm confused as here your saying you just need to tap into #6 on the multi switch connector but then in earlier posts they say you need to tap into #4 and #6? Furthermore I've also read some people saying to tap into #3 and #6.....? Can someone please clarify which is correct????
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      09-19-2019, 03:12 PM   #201
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I'm confused as here your saying you just need to tap into #6 on the multi switch connector but then in earlier posts they say you need to tap into #4 and #6? Furthermore I've also read some people saying to tap into #3 and #6.....? Can someone please clarify which is correct????
I believe if you do one other pin on the multifunction connector going into the clockspring; then each paddle will only do one thing, either shifts up or down regardless if you push or pull.

Right now for me; when I pull on the right; it shifts up, and then I push on the right it shifts down. And the reverse for left.

I still don't know why I can't shift down while driving, but I can if I'm at stand still in D.
Could it be my GM transmission? I doubt, might connect to the other pin and see what happens.

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      10-23-2019, 11:32 AM   #202
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Sooo, if the lock harness on the back of the clock spring HAS the 2 yellow wires, what do they go to? I don’t want to remove them and lose something. OR does it mean I’m already pre wired?
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      01-09-2020, 06:24 AM   #203
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Hi,
I have installed the paddles and the worked only in DS mode. Is there a solution for this, to work in D mode. My car is 2006 330i N52
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      01-09-2020, 01:06 PM   #204
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I have installed the paddles and the worked only in DS mode. Is there a solution for this, to work in D mode. My car is 2006 330i N52
Hi, can I ask which steering wheel you used? thanks
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      01-09-2020, 01:34 PM   #205
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Hi, can I ask which steering wheel you used? thanks
Pre LCI steering wheel with SSG paddles push/pull
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      01-11-2020, 12:11 AM   #206
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I have installed the paddles and the worked only in DS mode. Is there a solution for this, to work in D mode. My car is 2006 330i N52
That's generally how it's supposed to work. Paddles should shift in D but automatic will take back control if you're not actively shifting. DS you remain in control (with paddles) but car will downshift automatically as you lose revs (downshift to M2 at stop). Will also not let you damage the tranny by shifting for you if you hit redline.
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      01-12-2020, 01:16 AM   #207
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That's generally how it's supposed to work. Paddles should shift in D but automatic will take back control if you're not actively shifting. DS you remain in control (with paddles) but car will downshift automatically as you lose revs (downshift to M2 at stop). Will also not let you damage the tranny by shifting for you if you hit redline.
I know this, but mine does not work in D at all. Only in DS.
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      03-18-2020, 11:14 AM   #208
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Hello.

I wanted to find out what I was doing wrong.

so bmw x1 2011 year 2.3xdrive, i bought a ssg steering wheel.

I took two wires from the gear selector to the steering wheel, removed the two yellow wires # 2 # 4 out, then connected the in steering wheel # 2 wires together to the ground, # 3 connected together and connected to the exit 6 of the ring.

when starting a car nothing happens, the problem is that the D is on the gear selector and M / S light is on, I can't change the speed with the steering wheel, are there any other things I can do?

I dont have paddle shiffters buttons with nummber 61319123287 but some other nummbers, with 6 pin.

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      05-28-2020, 03:31 PM   #209
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Hello,

I have a 2006 330i with a N52B30. Transmission 6 speed auto with EGS Module GKE11P.C02 Wheel I have has the SSG Paddles and came with the the multi function buttons with all 6 wires and behind the slip ring I had the 2 yellow wires.

Problem:
I cannot down shift manually but it will downshift on its own when hitting a certain RPM. The odd thing is it will not go to M1 on its own unless I use the shifter to manually shift up and down, I can then go into M1.

What I have tried:

-I have wired everything as the diagram is shown from the slip ring to the transmission connector two times. Second time was using larger gauge wire.
- Re wired the paddles ( these have 3 connections. one is up one is down and one is negative. Tried different routes on the paddles and bypassed the multi function directly to the slip ring connector. I know both paddles function properly.
- I have added $2XA to the VO for CAS and NFRM with NCSExpert
- I have default coded the EGS module to factory settings after adding the VO

I understand how the shifting grounds the connection out when in DS mode. and that the paddles essentially are just switches to do the same thing. I can manually shit up and down using the shifter but not the paddles?
Anyone have ideas?
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      05-30-2020, 06:27 PM   #210
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Hello,

I have a 2006 330i with a N52B30. Transmission 6 speed auto with EGS Module GKE11P.C02 Wheel I have has the SSG Paddles and came with the the multi function buttons with all 6 wires and behind the slip ring I had the 2 yellow wires.

Problem:
I cannot down shift manually but it will downshift on its own when hitting a certain RPM. The odd thing is it will not go to M1 on its own unless I use the shifter to manually shift up and down, I can then go into M1.

What I have tried:

-I have wired everything as the diagram is shown from the slip ring to the transmission connector two times. Second time was using larger gauge wire.
- Re wired the paddles ( these have 3 connections. one is up one is down and one is negative. Tried different routes on the paddles and bypassed the multi function directly to the slip ring connector. I know both paddles function properly.
- I have added $2XA to the VO for CAS and NFRM with NCSExpert
- I have default coded the EGS module to factory settings after adding the VO

I understand how the shifting grounds the connection out when in DS mode. and that the paddles essentially are just switches to do the same thing. I can manually shit up and down using the shifter but not the paddles?
Anyone have ideas?
Not sure about the rewire, but when it downshifts on its own it will only go down to M2 (sorta like how you might treat a manual). M1 is only by downshift by the paddle. So that's sorta normal, other than you not being able to downshift normally. I would have said check the actual wiring by the shifter as they crack but that would prevent you from driving in DS at all.
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      06-12-2020, 10:00 AM   #211
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Hi. Does anyone know if it would be possible to fit a SSG (Pre-LCI) paddle shifting steering wheel on a LCI 2009 328i? I am not sure if I need to get the LCI shift paddles. The SSG shifters are cheaper and more abundant.
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      06-12-2020, 07:12 PM   #212
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It shouldn't matter, you could do it. You just have to check the wiring as it has more to do with the connection to the control buttons. In some ways it might be easier.
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      07-07-2020, 02:13 PM   #213
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Cant really tell you cuz i dont see your wiring...etc

Make sure the homemade pins are properly connected

Do you have dct paddles or regular?

What year is your car?

Did you shift to DS mode and then shift?
i was done making my own pins the same way you did and went and tried to connect them but noticed those extra slots on mine are already takin would you have any idea what else i can possibly do ? my steering wheel is off of a 2008 bmw 335i and my car is a bmw 328i 2009 Any ideas ?? anyone
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      07-26-2020, 02:20 PM   #214
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My experience, hope this helps someone with the same variation of car and wheel;

Car-2009 335i xDrive-non sport package, premium package, cold weather package.

Wheel- M Sport perforated wheel from a 2011 335i M sport. Wheel came with multifunction buttons.

Since the wheel came with multifunction buttons it had the 6 pin connector that plugs into the ring behind the airbag so didn’t need to do anything to get the paddles to connect to the ring.

The paddles tho had to have the “resistor mod” done to them in order for them to act as right side + and left side -. Now I am not an experienced in soldering whatsoever and the directions from BMS say to use a small piece of wire to “short out” the two connectors on the paddles AFTER removing the 2 resistors on each paddle. I tried it this way at first with flux and it was incredibly difficult.

So, instead of using a small piece of wire, I just used a blob of solder to connect the two connections to create the short. This was much easier to do and it has the same effect of a small piece of wire.

Lastly, in terms of the rear connector behind the ring hidden by the bottom plastics is the connection you have to make from there to the shifter assembly at the center console. My car had the 2 yellow wires in pin slots 2 and 4 so I removed those, taped up each of them.

Next I took 2 pins from another spare plug I had laying around, soldered about a foot and a half of wiring to each one and spliced each of them into the two middle wires of the blue plug at the shifter.

Everything is working well, all multifunction buttons work, I can be in just D along with DS and still use the paddles and didn’t have to buy a $100+ plug and play harness.

I was planning all along to just buy the BMS paddle retrofit harness but with it being out of stock for some time now I went this route and I’m glad I did. Hope this helps people wondering the same questions about an e90 lci non paddle car that wants to use an lci m sport +/- wheel.
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My experience, hope this helps someone with the same variation of car and wheel;

Car-2009 335i xDrive-non sport package, premium package, cold weather package.

Wheel- M Sport perforated wheel from a 2011 335i M sport. Wheel came with multifunction buttons.

Since the wheel came with multifunction buttons it had the 6 pin connector that plugs into the ring behind the airbag so didn’t need to do anything to get the paddles to connect to the ring.

The paddles tho had to have the “resistor mod” done to them in order for them to act as right side + and left side -. Now I am not an experienced in soldering whatsoever and the directions from BMS say to use a small piece of wire to “short out” the two connectors on the paddles AFTER removing the 2 resistors on each paddle. I tried it this way at first with flux and it was incredibly difficult.

So, instead of using a small piece of wire, I just used a blob of solder to connect the two connections to create the short. This was much easier to do and it has the same effect of a small piece of wire.

Lastly, in terms of the rear connector behind the ring hidden by the bottom plastics is the connection you have to make from there to the shifter assembly at the center console. My car had the 2 yellow wires in pin slots 2 and 4 so I removed those, taped up each of them.

Next I took 2 pins from another spare plug I had laying around, soldered about a foot and a half of wiring to each one and spliced each of them into the two middle wires of the blue plug at the shifter.

Everything is working well, all multifunction buttons work, I can be in just D along with DS and still use the paddles and didn’t have to buy a $100+ plug and play harness.

I was planning all along to just buy the BMS paddle retrofit harness but with it being out of stock for some time now I went this route and I’m glad I did. Hope this helps people wondering the same questions about an e90 lci non paddle car that wants to use an lci m sport +/- wheel.
Nice. Pictures would help the next gen doing this.
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My experience, hope this helps someone with the same variation of car and wheel;

Car-2009 335i xDrive-non sport package, premium package, cold weather package.

Wheel- M Sport perforated wheel from a 2011 335i M sport. Wheel came with multifunction buttons.

Since the wheel came with multifunction buttons it had the 6 pin connector that plugs into the ring behind the airbag so didn't need to do anything to get the paddles to connect to the ring.

The paddles tho had to have the "resistor mod" done to them in order for them to act as right side + and left side -. Now I am not an experienced in soldering whatsoever and the directions from BMS say to use a small piece of wire to "short out" the two connectors on the paddles AFTER removing the 2 resistors on each paddle. I tried it this way at first with flux and it was incredibly difficult.

So, instead of using a small piece of wire, I just used a blob of solder to connect the two connections to create the short. This was much easier to do and it has the same effect of a small piece of wire.

Lastly, in terms of the rear connector behind the ring hidden by the bottom plastics is the connection you have to make from there to the shifter assembly at the center console. My car had the 2 yellow wires in pin slots 2 and 4 so I removed those, taped up each of them.

Next I took 2 pins from another spare plug I had laying around, soldered about a foot and a half of wiring to each one and spliced each of them into the two middle wires of the blue plug at the shifter.

Everything is working well, all multifunction buttons work, I can be in just D along with DS and still use the paddles and didn't have to buy a $100+ plug and play harness.

I was planning all along to just buy the BMS paddle retrofit harness but with it being out of stock for some time now I went this route and I'm glad I did. Hope this helps people wondering the same questions about an e90 lci non paddle car that wants to use an lci m sport +/- wheel.
So you did not have to do anny custom wiring before the slip ring? Someone said earlier that it was needed. I suppose I can try and report back if thats the case with this specific configuration (swaping a 2011 msport wheel to a 2009 lci car)

Edit - still have to do the wiring modification before the slipping. Not sure how the poster I quoted did it
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