[colorado.e9x]

Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

Ooops sorry, I thought they had the before after numbers on there. If I remember I'll take a screenshot tonight of my stock settings.

Somehow I didn't see a single notification from all those duplicates

That would be much appreciated!

[tol4o]

Did this quick mod on X5 35D but 100C was not centered
Using motor steps
0-420-840-1260-1680
gave me perfect 1/4 75C, 1/2 centered 100C, 3/4 125C and 1/1 150C
Try it, it works better
Anyone knows where I can get a sticker to cover mpg scale and get oil temp scale?

[POBEP]

Originally Posted by tol4o

Did this quick mod on X5 35D but 100C was not centered
Using motor steps
0-420-840-1260-1680
gave me perfect 1/4 75C, 1/2 centered 100C, 3/4 125C and 1/1 150C
Try it, it works better
Anyone knows where I can get a sticker to cover mpg scale and get oil temp scale?

Q: Is your X5 35d US Spec (M57Y with DDE 7.3) or EU spec with an older DDE?
I successfully coded my 2009 E91 N52K (US), now need to repeat on 2013 E70 M57Y(US)

I would not worry about sticker - here is why:

When you code (temp) 40-65-90-115-140, you get easy-to-remember mpg-to-temp values.

First: 40C
50mpg: 64C
30mpg: 80C
Center: 90C
20mpg: 100C
17mpg: 110C
15mpg: 120C
13mpg: 130C
12mpg: 140C

I did multiple experiments with motor steps and concluded it is best to keep original motor steps (as they come from factory for mpg, including initial offset).

[Schmitz]

The best way is to buy a used cluster ($50 on eBay) and virginize it. Or, just buy a used cluster with fewer miles than your car and is plug and play.

[oVeRdOsE.]

yeah me too Im looking for a sticker in °C.

Don't want to change the cluster face, its my beater after all.

[apexit4]

Originally Posted by oVeRdOsE.

yeah me too Im looking for a sticker in °C.

Don't want to change the cluster face, its my beater after all.

Check out eBay user Venoxy: https://www.ebay.com/usr/venoxy

He does custom stickers for gauge cluster dials. I ordered one last year for my diesel and asked him to keep the same font as the stock dials with custom numbers for the new temp gauge.

[nsjames]

my venoxy order shipped last week.

stripped out the km/h gauge, and updated it to bullets instead of dashes so there's less light.

I hate dash lighting at night.

[bluewater328]

Originally Posted by Schmitz

The best way is to buy a used cluster ($50 on eBay) and virginize it. Or, just buy a used cluster with fewer miles than your car and is plug and play.

Or get a 335i cluster and swap faces?

[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by Schmitz

The best way is to buy a used cluster ($50 on eBay) and virginize it. Or, just buy a used cluster with fewer miles than your car and is plug and play.

It can have less miles and it still needs to be virginized. You'll have the tamper dot and it will not be codeable with the VIN mismatch. it definitely won't be plug and play.

[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by bluewater328

Or get a 335i cluster and swap faces?

Close. The tach will need to be rescaled so if you have the 335i tach settings it would work fine otherwise it will be a bit off.

[bluewater328]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

Close. The tach will need to be rescaled so if you have the 335i tach settings it would work fine otherwise it will be a bit off.

Right, you just have to adjust values. It's the way I did it.

[Schmitz]

Originally Posted by bluewater328

Or get a 335i cluster and swap faces?

Whatever is easier for you. Just throwing out another option

[Schmitz]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

It can have less miles and it still needs to be virginized. You'll have the tamper dot and it will not be codeable with the VIN mismatch. it definitely won't be plug and play.

It's plug and play. The tamper dot is there but everything works as it should. Just if you don't virginize it, you have to make sure you use a cluster with fewer miles than your car, otherwise your car will eventually assume the higher mileage.

[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by Schmitz

It's plug and play. The tamper dot is there but everything works as it should. Just if you don't virginize it, you have to make sure you use a cluster with fewer miles than your car, otherwise your car will eventually assume the higher mileage.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I repair, customize, and code clusters every day. If it is not virginized, meaning the VIN erased, it is not codeable, meaning it cannot be default coded for the VO of the car it is going into.

If you don't account for the variations in options between different vehicles it will throw errors all day and every day until it is coded. For example, hardtop vs verts, will throw a error, manual vs auto, error. Different CC type, active vs non active steering. Difference in telematics, errors.

If you get lucky and use a cluster from a car similarly optioned to yours, yes you may get lucky and it will work without errors. There will will be a list of codes if you bother to read them though.

[Schmitz]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. I repair, customize, and code clusters every day. If it is not virginized, meaning the VIN erased, it is not codeable, meaning it cannot be default coded for the VO of the car it is going into.

If you don't account for the variations in options between different vehicles it will throw errors all day and every day until it is coded. For example, hardtop vs verts, will throw a error, manual vs auto, error. Different CC type, active vs non active steering. Difference in telematics, errors.

If you get lucky and use a cluster from a car similarly optioned to yours, yes you may get lucky and it will work without errors. There will will be a list of codes if you bother to read them though.

Well, I must have got really lucky then, since I didn't get any codes and everything worked as it should have. I bought one off an e92. Cluster's date of mfg is 8/09, the one on my car was dated 6/10. So both.

But I will reiterate, do not get one with higher miles than yours.

[nuron]

Originally Posted by nsjames

my venoxy order shipped last week.

stripped out the km/h gauge, and updated it to bullets instead of dashes so there's less light.

I hate dash lighting at night.

Post pics when you get them installed

[nsjames]

Originally Posted by nuron

Post pics when you get them installed

well it's somewhere between poland and ohio, and that's as specific as the international tracking gets.

[nsjames]

well they arrived the other day.

so I attempted this today. The faces are nice. pretty much exactly like the OE material. Fit VERY tightly. Get your shit screwed on tight before you try to stick them.

I literally had the job done in thirty minutes.

Looked great.

if you're sensing a "but" to this, there is. Somehow I damaged the speedometer stepper motor. it's just dead, and it doesn't feel like the others if you try and turn it. It just flops, while all of the others feel like stepper motors.

no idea how. I did it the same as all the others.
I desoldered it from the board, but it's obviously never supposed to come apart. all of the motors appear to be the same. I'm just going to order an ebay cluster for $40 and scavenge a motor from it.
Beware that the PCB DOES NOT LIKE HEAT. I had the iron too hot and lifted a pad near instantly. proceed with caution if you attempt repairing it.

to beat all I somehow managed to scratch the brand new face removing the needles, even though I protected it with eyeglass cleaning clothes. and I managed to really fuck up the oil temp needle position.

so, it's midnight, I'm mad and it's time to quit. tomorrow is another day.
the fuel gauge is correct.
I'll code the MPH into the LCD display so I have a speedo

I'll wait for parts cluster to arrive so I can scavenge parts before I dick with taking it apart again. The less I fuck with it the better off I am apparently.
bad luck led to frustration which led to me damaging the face.
should have quit when I got mad about the speedo and came back tomorrow.

TL;DR
The Venoxy faces are real nice, and if you don't dick up something it will take you 30 minutes to install them.

[nsjames]

parts cluster is on it's way.

then I thought, self, you're gonna have a parts cluster.
and chances are the cruise control wheel is identical to the M3 variable redline wheel, cause BMW.

so maybe we all learn how to get a sweet variable redline wheel too.
probably just have to solder the motor to the board and transfer the wheel over.

I'll have to figure out how to color it to match.

[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by nsjames

parts cluster is on it's way.

then I thought, self, you're gonna have a parts cluster.
and chances are the cruise control wheel is identical to the M3 variable redline wheel, cause BMW.

so maybe we all learn how to get a sweet variable redline wheel too.
probably just have to solder the motor to the board and transfer the wheel over.

I'll have to figure out how to color it to match.

It's been done, the info is out there.

You popped the worm gear off inside the stepper which is relatively easy to fix.

[nsjames]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

It's been done, the info is out there.

You popped the worm gear off inside the stepper which is relatively easy to fix.

that's what it felt like.

but for the life of me I couldn't get the stepper apart.
and I normally take apart laptops and rc servos and such.

just easier to harvest one and solder it on my board.
plus spare parts!

[bluewater328]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

It's been done, the info is out there.

You popped the worm gear off inside the stepper which is relatively easy to fix.

Werd. And yeah probably just the worm drive. Also, though they will look similar, the fuel and oil temp servos do not operate the same way...so you can't use them as a replacement.