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02-17-2020, 08:22 PM | #1 |
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Talk me into/out of installing inlets
I'm doing some engine bay cleanup this weekend, and have been on the fence about installing inlets. Car is currently FBO w/ Walbro 450, XHP Stg3 and runs high 11's all day in the 1/4.
I am still stock turbo (at least for the next six months) but have been debating doing inlets as the car could use some more top end. Is the install really worth it? I've heard nightmares that it can take 6-8 hours and is a PITA, is it really worth it on stock turbos or should I wait until I swap turbos? Whats easier - Stock location or relocated? Just curious on everyone's experience installing. |
02-17-2020, 09:45 PM | #5 |
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While back few tuners wrote (unless I have misunderstood) that gains aren’t significant unless tune is altered accordingly at which point oem turbos are pushed beyond their limits despite lower duty cycle. https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1441088
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02-17-2020, 09:54 PM | #6 |
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There are definitely gains even on stock turbos. I have vrsf stock location inlets and vrsf outlets on stock turbos.. while there is really no gains with outlets on stock turbos there is for inlets. I plan to upgrade my turbos in the future and I'll again have to change my inlets to 2". If you're going to upgrade your turbos soon I would wait and do them then. Just my opinion.
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02-18-2020, 01:45 PM | #9 | |
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If the install didnt suck so bad this would be a first mod easily.
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02-18-2020, 04:42 PM | #14 |
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Inlets will make a big difference, and I know this from experience. And my install when I had them took me about 3 hours. Also if you will upgrade the turbos in the near future I would just wait if I was you.
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02-18-2020, 04:42 PM | #15 |
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From your personal experience did you not feel that inlets made a significant difference?
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I have a 1/2 mile event coming up next month, and they would be nice to have BUT I will be doing turbos this summer anyways so I'm kinda stuck in between. Maybe I should just wait and throw on Meth Injection for now. |
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02-18-2020, 06:14 PM | #17 |
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Well all I did take out the DP, relocate the coolant reservoir to the driver's side, also you don't no need to remove the fan or anything like that. Then I cut the OEM inlets and took them out in 2 peaces it makes it much easier and installed the new relocated inlets. Make sure you get the back one on the turbo good, because I had mine slip off few times. When you do the job you see it much better. I did this 3 years ago lol so it was a while.
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02-19-2020, 09:28 AM | #20 |
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With cone filters being the low end and a stage 2 tune being the high, I would put DPs and ins/outs about in the middle of the scale. I did both at the same time and it really woke the car up.
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02-19-2020, 10:49 AM | #21 |
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The inlets on the firewall side we're sort of a bear. It helps to have a partner. I used a small hand held hack saw. You can get them at HD. I also took off the metal bracket that holds the OEM rear inlet. You need a extra small ratchet that can fit a t-30 bit to do that. This cleared a little more room. I also slathered a lot of silicone based grease on the inlet to help get it through. I just put a decent amount of spit on the inside of the inlet & made sure the turbo was wiped clean with a rag & brake cleaner. I slid it on the turbo with a SS banjo clamp. I made sure the inlet was seated all the way on. I then backed off the banjo clamp maybe 1/4 to 1/2" & tightened it down really tight with a ratchet. It's been on 3 years with no issues. Never slipped off once. |
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