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02-07-2008, 05:04 PM | #89 |
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You only need to depress the clutch if you intend to change gear. Otherwise park your left foot on that nice rest that BMW have provided. Your car should always be in gear except when you are stopped or are changing gear. Never coast in neutral or with the clutch depressed.
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02-07-2008, 05:19 PM | #90 |
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Many things have been covered in this thread and I would just like to add one thought:
You know you're driving a MT correctly when your passenger doesn't realize you're driving a MT. Think about it.... ![]()
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02-07-2008, 05:31 PM | #92 |
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My friend always does this. Whenever hes slowing down lets say from 40, he'll drop it into second and slowly let out the clutch to slow the car down. This is bad right? I always thought its a bad idea so i never did it. Can someone clear that up for me.
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02-07-2008, 05:32 PM | #93 |
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here's MY question
![]() let's say ur going in 4th gear, and it turns red and u want to stop. how do you stop??? i got into the habit of leaving the gear in all the way until like 5 mph, make the car shake then clutch to neutral.. it's bad i know... but at what point do you guys put in neutral when you stop? at what point do you depress the clutch? also, as you stop do you keep down shift to match ur speed with the right gear? |
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02-07-2008, 05:49 PM | #95 |
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Shoes and seating position are also factors. Try engaging the clutch with heavy work boots and you'll know what I mean. If you're starting out, stick to gym shoes or dress shoes. A rock solid sole will prevent you from getting that "feel" of the catch point.
Seating position will vary from driver to driver but you don't wanna be so far away that you have to extend your leg completely to disengage the clutch. Unfortunately, this prevents gangsta lean. ![]() |
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02-07-2008, 05:51 PM | #96 |
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+1, depends on the situation. It makes sense if your downshifting in anticipation of a light turning green or traffic begins to speed up. But coming to a stop is a waste.
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02-07-2008, 05:53 PM | #97 |
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I've only skimmed the first few posts because I have been driving a MT for a few years and don't think I need to learn at this point, but why would you need to push in the clutch twice to revmatch a downshift? That just seems like it would take waaaaay to long to do smoothly.
Just put the clutch in, select the lower gear, and as you are letting the clutch back out blip the throttle right before the engagement point. I guess I don't see the point of double clutching then.
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![]() ![]() BTW, Mantis, after switching over from the auto to the MT, do you now see why a lot of enthusiasts are so passionate about driving a MT? Regardless of what shifts a tenth of a second faster, there is just no comparison when it comes to the driving experience IMO. Mostly because my car is a manual, I look forward to driving it everday. ![]()
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02-07-2008, 06:06 PM | #100 | |
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02-07-2008, 06:18 PM | #101 |
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Keep breaking, keep clutch down, shift to third (but keep clutch all the way in), shift to second (still keeping clutch al the way in), come to a stop and shift into neutral and let go of the clutch. that way you are always ready incase something darts out into the road, or if the light turns green again you are ready to go!
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Assuming I'm in 5th or 6th, I usually downshift my way to 4th before I stop for a light. 4th is enough to offer some engine braking but not get too ridiculous about it. Brake while in gear until you're right near 1K RPMs (which is damn slow, maybe 5-10 mph), put in the clutch, pull it out of gear and fully stop. I usually sit there in neutral and don't put it in 1st until I'm getting reading to move again. Quote:
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02-07-2008, 06:24 PM | #103 |
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Engine braking is also useful in the snow. You can slow down a bit before getting on the brakes. Otherwise getting right on the brakes you have a chance of locking up and sliding.
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02-07-2008, 06:27 PM | #104 |
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just random thought: in some middle eastern countries, you get a short yellow for like 2 seconds so you get ready and put it in first and so on!!!
i wish that is available here... so i get ready before impatient LA/OC drivers stop honking or getting impatient ![]() |
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02-07-2008, 06:49 PM | #105 | |
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So yes, a blend of engine braking and regular braking is best when descending a steep grade. DEFINATELY don't push the clutch in all the way and RIDE your brakes all the way down ![]() I'm not that familiar with the program "CarTalk", but I have a feeling it's probrably not the best place to get your info from.
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02-07-2008, 06:54 PM | #106 |
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For coming to a stop, I do a similar technique as described by BK above with these exception. I usually drop the gear to 3rd and leave it in 3rd, kinda watch the RPM needle and pay very close attention to the RPM just when it is below 1K (so far up to this point I have not touched the brake-unless someone decided to switch lane right in front of me), then when it is time to really stop because the light is still red, I just press the clutch and brake at the same time and control the stopping motion with the brake. Probably why I have over 50K and my brakes looks like brand new
![]() btw, my car does not shake when I am in 3rd gear and the rpm needle is just below the 1K marker as long as I control the gas and keep the RPM needle steadily right below the 1K mark.
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Sad part is that I'm fairly used to performing in pressure situations (I'm a-gasp-trial lawyer), but I absolutely hate feeling like I'm either: (a) holding other drivers up; (b) or potentially destroying the car's clutch. |
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02-07-2008, 07:16 PM | #108 |
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LOL my friend this is EXACTLY how you hold other drivers and destroy your clutch.
freak out, stall, hold who's behind you, and kull clutch ![]() always be relaxed and assume there's no one behind you. just ignore em |
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![]() And the show's a riot, the guys are older than dirt, kinda senile, and still seem to know their stuff. http://www.cartalk.com/
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02-07-2008, 07:44 PM | #110 |
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Good stuff on this thread- just went on a ride to the grocery store to pick some items and used the techniques w/downshifting and blipping the revs- I've always done that anyway but, I was more conscious of what I was doing this time around- also used the techniques when turning- braking, then double-clutching etc..
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