MHD N55 & WedgePerformance Testing

aaron_ · 10-23-2016, 07:10 AM

How would I go about getting a custom mhd map in Sydney australia?

BKBMW335I · 10-23-2016, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CantCatchMe

Right now that's the only app out until they release it next week. Be patient.

Ok thanks for the update, it may have been already said a couple of pages back and I didn't see it but I appreciate it very much.

D's Bimmer · 10-23-2016, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dekansnowman

If you can grab a Nexus 7, that would make for an awesome tablet that can do double duty as flasher, and/or in-dash "computer".

I have been reading that the Nexus 7 has had issues with OTG. True or would this be. Good, cheap tablet to run MHD on?

Dekansnowman · 10-23-2016, 03:43 PM

I have an OTG cable for it, have plugged up USB Thimbdrives, and used it to charge my iPhone when traveling. I never had an issue when I had it. I'm onto a Nexus 9 now and same experience.

WedgePerformance · 10-23-2016, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aaron_

How would I go about getting a custom mhd map in Sydney australia?

Email WedgePerformance @ Gmail . Com

WedgePerformance · 10-23-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stari335

Doesn't F series use something completely different to talk to the car? Like not just type of cable but actually completely different way of flashing it and they also need the DME pulled? This is only E series right? I'm a bit confused. I have both an E90 and an F32.

I'll let Martial answer that question. MHD Tuning

aaron_ · 10-23-2016, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

Email WedgePerformance @ Gmail . Com

Thanks

DOCTOR.Y · 10-24-2016, 02:46 AM

So, I`m a bit confused. Sorry I`m new to tuning.
Is MHD a platform on which you can upload different maps, flash your DME with these pre-made maps? or it is the name of a custom tune?

aaron_ · 10-24-2016, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric_Y

So, I`m a bit confused. Sorry I`m new to tuning.
Is MHD a platform on which you can upload different maps, flash your DME with these pre-made maps? or it is the name of a custom tune?

Both. Off the shelf maps or custom maps done by emailing your logs through to wedge directly

EB89 · 10-24-2016, 06:52 AM

Aussie boys getting on it, Tell me how your custom map goes Aaron, I'm in the Gong, might have to get one myself but I'll be keep just for an OTs flash to start with, I have no tune at the moment.

flexbrah · 10-24-2016, 11:17 AM

https://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-...ttery+chargers

Would this work for flashing? Since the initial flash can take an hour?

hz_diesel · 10-24-2016, 11:43 AM

Will MHD be able to handle a hybrid turbo? or still requires a jb4? Will it also cause any issues for inspection? Such as forcing a N/A on emissions like cobb...

Turbod · 10-24-2016, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hz_diesel

Will MHD be able to handle a hybrid turbo? or still requires a jb4?

Yes it will work fine for upgraded turbos. They already have 3.5 bar support unlike Cobb. I have not heard if they will offer OTS maps for the pure but you can always get a custom tune.

MHD Tuning · 10-24-2016, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cjindna

No bubble here but, when already invested in the JB4 platform, suggesting that a standalone meth controller should be considered doesn't seem a logical proposition.

It depends if you consider that flash only tunes tend to be smoother and more consistent than with a piggyback in the mix. We'll see.

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Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

I believe Launch control is part of the TCU and not the ECU/DME as the 335is has a higher rpm launch and they have been using the 135is transmission flash to change to a lower RPM launch with the DCT. MHD Tuning might have more information regarding this.

There are definitely a string of tables for launch control in the ECU. I have not had the time yet to explore this.

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Originally Posted by stari335

Doesn't F series use something completely different to talk to the car? Like not just type of cable but actually completely different way of flashing it and they also need the DME pulled? This is only E series right? I'm a bit confused. I have both an E90 and an F32.

1. E series built pre 3-2012 are directly flashable.
2. E series post § 2012 and F series need a one time bench flash to unlock OBD flash.
3. F series use a different protocol but the same DME family. For now we're finishing a first version of MHD n55 E series before we have a closer look at F series.

Tricki · 10-24-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MHD Tuning

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Originally Posted by cjindna

No bubble here but, when already invested in the JB4 platform, suggesting that a standalone meth controller should be considered doesn't seem a logical proposition.

It depends if you consider that flash only tunes tend to be smoother and more consistent than with a piggyback in the mix. We'll see.

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Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

I believe Launch control is part of the TCU and not the ECU/DME as the 335is has a higher rpm launch and they have been using the 135is transmission flash to change to a lower RPM launch with the DCT. MHD Tuning might have more information regarding this.

There are definitely a string of tables for launch control in the ECU. I have not had the time yet to explore this.

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Originally Posted by stari335

Doesn't F series use something completely different to talk to the car? Like not just type of cable but actually completely different way of flashing it and they also need the DME pulled? This is only E series right? I'm a bit confused. I have both an E90 and an F32.

1. E series built pre 3-2012 are directly flashable.
2. E series post § 2012 and F series need a one time bench flash to unlock OBD flash.
3. F series use a different protocol but the same DME family. For now we're finishing a first version of MHD n55 E series before we have a closer look at F series.

So when MHD is available for pre- 2012 135i, all I need to do is have my ecu bench flashed to unlock and I'm away?? 2013 135i

WedgePerformance · 10-24-2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tricki

So when MHD is available for pre- 2012 135i, all I need to do is have my ecu bench flashed to unlock and I'm away?? 2013 135i

Yes

bahn · 10-26-2016, 09:28 AM

Still haven't seen any actual dyno comparisons before and after only virtual dynos. Any idea when we can see what the OTS maps are capable of? I would imagine they would have been dyno tested by now if open beta is about to begin.

AtlasM · 10-26-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bahn

Still haven't seen any actual dyno comparisons before and after only virtual dynos. Any idea when we can see what the OTS maps are capable of? I would imagine they would have been dyno tested by now if open beta is about to begin.

I'm likely going to do MHD, if not during the beta then at least very early in the general release, and will put my car on a dyno. My car is FBO with the PPK flash, so the baseline won't be stock, but will be able to at least give a point of reference.

bahn · 10-26-2016, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlasM

I'm likely going to do MHD, if not during the beta then at least very early in the general release, and will put my car on a dyno. My car is FBO with the PPK flash, but will be able to at least give a point of reference.

Awesome, for sure I'll be going MHD as well but I figured Wedge Performance and MHD would have already teased us with some real dyno results of their OTS tunes from a marketing perspective considering how close they are to an open beta release.

WedgePerformance · 10-26-2016, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bahn

Still haven't seen any actual dyno comparisons before and after only virtual dynos. Any idea when we can see what the OTS maps are capable of? I would imagine they would have been dyno tested by now if open beta is about to begin.

Timing... I have been super busy at work and little time to get free to actually dyno. I'm putting the final touches on my stock turbo custom maps and will be soon moving on to ethanol maps once I install my analyzer and stage 2 Fuel-IT pump. I'll try to get to the dyno next week to do a PPK vs Custom map comparison.

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Originally Posted by bahn

Awesome, for sure I'll be going MHD as well but I figured Wedge Performance and MHD would have already teased us with some real dyno results of their OTS tunes from a marketing perspective considering how close they are to an open beta release.

Just to clarify, I'm not developing the OTS maps for MHD N55. Twisted Tuning has been working on the map development from the beginning. If Martial gives me the green light to dyno the OTS maps while I'm on the dyno I will as a comparison to the stock PPK. This is in NO way a direct comparison to my custom maps because my maps will not be released through the MHD store. If anyone is looking to have a custom map developed once MHD is released, you can send me an email.

bahn · 10-26-2016, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by WedgePerformance

Timing... I have been super busy at work and little time to get free to actually dyno. I'm putting the final touches on my stock turbo custom maps and will be soon moving on to ethanol maps once I install my analyzer and stage 2 Fuel-IT pump. I'll try to get to the dyno next week to do a PPK vs Custom map comparison.

Just to clarify, I'm not developing the OTS maps for MHD N55. Twisted Tuning has been working on the map development from the beginning. If Martial gives me the green light to dyno the OTS maps while I'm on the dyno I will as a comparison to the stock PPK. This is in NO way a direct comparison to my custom maps because my maps will not be released through the MHD store. If anyone is looking to have a custom map developed once MHD is released, you can send me an email.

Ah thank you for clarifying I was making the assumption you were developing the OTS maps. Regardless I can't wait to see your results. Any ideas on price for a custom map from wedge performance?

WedgePerformance · 10-26-2016, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bahn

Ah thank you for clarifying I was making the assumption you were developing the OTS maps. Regardless I can't wait to see your results. Any ideas on price for a custom map from wedge performance?

Please email WedgePerformance@gmail.com for pricing.

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bahn Lieutenant 337 Rep 258 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	Still haven't seen any actual dyno comparisons before and after only virtual dynos. Any idea when we can see what the OTS maps are capable of? I would imagine they would have been dyno tested by now if open beta is about to begin.
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