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      12-18-2007, 09:24 AM   #45
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Mine is Manual and it does not jerk at at...
mine is an auto and it doesn't jerk either.
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      12-18-2007, 09:54 AM   #46
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SI B 24 06 06
Automatic Transmission October 2006
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B24 06 06 dated August 2006.

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SUBJECT
A Slight Bump is Felt Shortly after the Vehicle Comes to a Stop


MODEL
E85 3.0 and 3.0si with the GA6HP19Z transmission produced up to 07/2006

E90, E91 All with the GA6HP19Z transmission produced up to 09/2006


SITUATION
A slight one-time bump is felt shortly after the vehicle comes to a stop.

CAUSE
This is due to the design concept of "NIC", or Neutral Idle Control. This gearbox feature uncouples the torque converter whenever the vehicle is stationary, gearbox oil temperature is between 20°C and 120°C, and the brakes are applied. By disconnecting the torque converter the load on the engine is reduced to a minimum. Please explain this feature and its operation to the customer.

CORRECTION
For the E85, revised EGS software is available with Progman 23.0 or higher.

For the E90, E91 revised EGS software is expected in a future release of Progman. Until that time, on a customer complaint basis only, this feature can be deactivated as described in the procedure below.

PROCEDURE
E85 – On a customer complaint basis only, reprogram the EGS module with Progman 23.0 or higher. It is not possible to deactivate this feature using the retrofit option on the E85.

E90, E91 - On a customer complaint basis only, perform the Retrofit - "Converter lockup clutch" using Progman 23.0 (Target Data status: E89x-06-09-520) or higher. Follow the "Retrofit" procedures as outlined in SI B09 05 01.
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SI B 09 05 01
Programming/Coding Explanations March 2006
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B 09 05 01 dated December 2005.

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SUBJECT
Coding, Individualization, Programming (CIP)


MODEL
All


SITUATION
Coding, Individualization and Programming (CIP) is a module for DISplus, GT1 and Software Service Station (SSS). CIP software may be loaded by either online update (refer to SI B07 05 02) or as a CD (refer to SI B09 07 02).

PROCEDURE
Car and Key Memory (CKM)

There is no CKM available for E90 (3 Series).

For E60/E61/E63/E64 and E90, most of the CKM settings are customer selectable using the Control Display. For all other models the CKM configuration is performed using Progman. For details refer to:

SI B09 03 98 , Car and Key Memory (CKM) Configuration

Airbag Reactivation Procedure

All airbag reactivation/deactivation on E65/E66/E83/E85/E60 is performed using Progman. Refer to appropriate SIB for details:

SI B65 22 99 , Rear Airbag Activation/Deactivation Procedure

SI B65 20 97 , Deactivation of Airbags

Programming and Coding

All programming and coding is performed using Progman. Refer to attachment "B090501ProgCoding" titled "Programming and Coding using CIP".

For additional information on Programming Environment refer to SBT 00 03 03(054).

Adapt VO (Vehicle Order)

To modify the vehicle order (VO) or to reload an existing VO, the appropriate VO must be loaded to an empty floppy disk. The VO file is supplied by e-mail from the Technical Hotline. Please make request using the PUMA system. A return e-mail address must be provided.

Connect the vehicle to an approved BMW battery charger

Insert the disk into the floppy drive.

With the appropriate diagnostic head connected to the vehicle, start a Progman session.

Select the appropriate vehicle model.

Press the "Vehicle" button at the screen with the text "Program SELECTION: 1. Terminate CIP 2. Load software 3. Car & Key Memory (CKM) ... ".

Press "Vehicle order".

Press "Adapt VO" and follow the on-screen instructions.

For additional information on the Vehicle Order refer to SI B09 03 06.

Retrofits

Note: The vehicle must be updated with the latest Progman version before executing the retrofit procedure.

If the retrofit requires the installation of new hardware and/or any other modification to the vehicle, these must be done before carrying out the Progman retrofit procedure.

All necessary programming and coding for retrofits are performed using Progman. Refer to appropriate SIB for details.

After retrofit has been carried out:

Connect the vehicle to an approved BMW battery charger

With the appropriate diagnostic head connected to the vehicle, start a Progman session.

Select the appropriate vehicle model.

Press the "Load Software" button at the screen with the text "Program SELECTION: 1. Terminate CIP 2. Load software 3. Car & Key Memory (CKM) ... ".

Answer "No" at the screen with the text "Have control modules been replaced on this car? Note: For retrofits press No".

Press "Cancel Update" at the screen with the title "Status report" if it appears.

Press "Retrofits" at the screen with the text "Select control module to be processed".

Press "Retrofits" at the next screen

Select the performed retrofit (e.g. "Telephone" – "Added") and follow the on-screen instructions
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      12-18-2007, 11:49 AM   #48
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But with progman software above 23 it still happens. I believe i have the v26 of it.
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      12-19-2007, 02:17 AM   #49
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I've read threads with Manual trannies jerking when it comes to a stop, but I have an Auto and when I sometimes make stops, I can feel the car jerk a little. I can feel it in the brakes and sometimes it scared me that I wasn't pressing on the brakes hard enough. Anyone w/ an Auto have the same problem? Does it go away? Is it just part of the break-in process?

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i started having a problem.. i thought i was just trippin out
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      07-21-2011, 10:28 AM   #50
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I have a question for anyone that has had this issue resolved.

I have this issue and also have the "sticky brake issure" will this computer update fix both?

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      07-21-2011, 10:40 AM   #51
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BMW now telling me CPO will not cover this...
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      07-21-2011, 01:18 PM   #52
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I've had the same issue. I drive an automatic. A reputable mechanic attributed the problem to worn bushings. Good luck
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      08-21-2011, 12:18 PM   #53
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having same problem here ...smooth braking until car comes to complete stop,then brakes just grabs and jerks whole car. will this make any damage on long road? my car is out warranty.
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      08-22-2011, 11:06 AM   #54
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Drove my girlfriend 2008 lexus is 250 yesterday and felt the same 'jerk'
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      08-22-2011, 05:58 PM   #55
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Check this thread: http://e90post.com/forums/showthread...ight=soft+stop


It's very dangerous and there have been times where my car has traveled 6 inches after a stop. I have filed multiple complains to BMWNA, NHTSA, and Continental Teves (supplier of brakes and DSC system).
How can you travel 6" after you stop? if you stop, that's it, unless you take your foot off the brake!
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      09-12-2011, 02:50 PM   #56
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Had the same issue. Car first stop and then jerk and move forward a little.
61K on ODO - no extended warranty. Looking forward for verdict....
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      09-12-2011, 08:56 PM   #57
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I was having a problem with jerky, grabbing brakes for the first few weeks I owned the car but either she adapted to me or I adapted to her because I haven't felt any jerks while braking the last several times I've driven her.

One thing I have noticed, however, is when I first start her up, put her in drive and take my foot off the brake it takes her about one full second to start moving forward and then she kind of jerks forward. The best way I can describe it is as a delay from the time I release the brake pedal to when the car moves forward under its own power.

It's not a major issue and I don't think I'll ever take her in for that but it is annoying.
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has this issue been resolved. I have a 2006 BMW 325xi that does the same thing. We also have a 2007 328i, and it doesn't "jerk"
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Mine has a jerk behind the wheel.
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has this issue been resolved. I have a 2006 BMW 325xi that does the same thing. We also have a 2007 328i, and it doesn't "jerk"
I didn’t go through the whole thread to see if anyone already said this but I have read that it’s a smooth stop software thing that can be coded out. My 2011 335d has the same thing where if you let off the brakes to come to a smooth stop it jerks a little. I’m not sure if this is the problem you are talking about but I just wanted to chime in to help.
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I've read threads with Manual trannies jerking when it comes to a stop, but I have an Auto and when I sometimes make stops, I can feel the car jerk a little. I can feel it in the brakes and sometimes it scared me that I wasn't pressing on the brakes hard enough. Anyone w/ an Auto have the same problem? Does it go away? Is it just part of the break-in process?

thanks.
what kind of "jerk"? Like an rpm surge jerk? If that is the case, updating your DME will usually fix this and a/c idle rpm surge.
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