2010 335d oil change

F32Fleet · 06-09-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasimodem

and if it doesn't say LL-04 it isn't good.

Apologies but this is simply untrue.

Quasimodem · 06-09-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Socom

Apologies but this is simply untrue.

Using an uncertified oil could void a warranty.

F32Fleet · 06-10-2010, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Quasimodem

Using an uncertified oil could void a warranty.

From a technical point yes, however the reality is that not even BMW pours LL04 oil into their U.S. diesels. They use Castrol SLX OE Professional which only states VW 501?? and MB 299.51 approvals. The 229.51 spec at a minimium meets if not exceeds LL04. That is your out.

maswastage · 06-10-2010, 09:01 AM

Just thought I'd chime in and note that my dealer was happy to use the oil I'd brought, I just had to specify a few times that it was in the trunk so that they wouldn't forget.

My brother also had me send in an oil analysis for the Mobil 1 ESP 5w40, and he posted the results on the Bob is the Oil Guy forums, if anyone is interested. I'm not much of an expert on these things, but based on the analysis (and my brother's interpretation of the analysis) the Mobil 1 is a very good match for the 335d.

Quasimodem · 06-10-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Socom

From a technical point yes, however the reality is that not even BMW pours LL04 oil into their U.S. diesels. They use Castrol SLX OE Professional which only states VW 501?? and MB 299.51 approvals. The 229.51 spec at a minimium meets if not exceeds LL04. That is your out.

The oil Tischer sent me (I ordered it using the BMW part number mentioned above) is Castrol SLX Professional OE SAE 5W-30 and it lists BMW LL-04, VW 502 00/505 00/505 01 and MB 229.51 on it. I do not know the qualifications for the non-BMW VW and MB certifications so I can't state definitively that satisfying one of them would or would not prove that the oil also satisfied the LL-04 certification.

F32Fleet · 06-11-2010, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Quasimodem

The oil Tischer sent me (I ordered it using the BMW part number mentioned above) is Castrol SLX Professional OE SAE 5W-30 and it lists BMW LL-04, VW 502 00/505 00/505 01 and MB 229.51 on it. I do not know the qualifications for the non-BMW VW and MB certifications so I can't state definitively that satisfying one of them would or would not prove that the oil also satisfied the LL-04 certification.

Hmm..I guess they updated the labeling? Notice how this bottle does not?

Here is my basis for the MB 229.51 vs LL04. This tool allows you to overlay the specifications. http://sas-origin.onstreammedia.com/.../pc/index.html

Quasimodem · 06-11-2010, 07:37 AM

One of my bottles:

F32Fleet · 06-11-2010, 10:17 AM

Very interesting. LL04 has been added to the bottle. It really bugs that BMW doesn't get the new oil technologies from Castrol. If I remember correctly the SLX in Europe/UK has since been replaced by an Edge Sport, Edge RS, or something like that.

123Britt · 06-11-2010, 11:25 AM

Based on their website and magazine - Bavarian Autosport they say the "Best" oil they sell is Liqui Moly Longtime High Tech / SAE 5W-30.
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This is over Redline --- which is hard for me to believe. LL-04 for Liqui.
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Quasimodem · 06-11-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Socom

Very interesting. LL04 has been added to the bottle. It really bugs that BMW doesn't get the new oil technologies from Castrol. If I remember correctly the SLX in Europe/UK has since been replaced by an Edge Sport, Edge RS, or something like that.

I would suspect that is just a marketing change. If they introduce a truly new oil, don't they usually just give it a new name and add it to their existing lineup? Sounds to me like the emperor has change his clothes.

F32Fleet · 06-11-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Quasimodem

I would suspect that is just a marketing change. If they introduce a truly new oil, don't they usually just give it a new name and add it to their existing lineup? Sounds to me like the emperor has change his clothes.

I agree. A quick couple of keystrokes and label has LL04 on the bottle.

In fact if you so desire, do a search on retail 229.51 oils and you'll usually see LL04 also on the bottle unless it's a 40w at which only Valvoline has pending approval for a 40w which is already 229.51 approved.

Motul is a little different since the market a 40w LL04 oil but they have the X-Clean line which is VW 507/LL04/MB229.51

Sameen_619 · 09-18-2018, 01:45 PM

Hi guys, i am looking to do my first oil change on my E90 335d that i bought recently. Can i use the oil in the link below.

https://www.halfords.com/motoring/en...q=castrol+edge

Thank you.

06-10-2010, 09:01 AM	#26
maswastage Resident Diesel Junkie 56 Rep 1,070 Posts Drives: 2010 AW 335d Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	Just thought I'd chime in and note that my dealer was happy to use the oil I'd brought, I just had to specify a few times that it was in the trunk so that they wouldn't forget. My brother also had me send in an oil analysis for the Mobil 1 ESP 5w40, and he posted the results on the Bob is the Oil Guy forums, if anyone is interested. I'm not much of an expert on these things, but based on the analysis (and my brother's interpretation of the analysis) the Mobil 1 is a very good match for the 335d.
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06-11-2010, 07:37 AM	#29
Quasimodem Colonel 145 Rep 2,383 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335d US [0.00]	One of my bottles: Attached Images __________________ Speakers: CDT Audio HD-42 comps--front doors (RAAMmat deadened), CDT ES-06 6.5" woofers--kickpanl Pods, Hertz EBX202R dual 8" ported trunk sub. Amps: Phoenix Gold RSd 500.4 (comps & pods). PG RSd 600.1 (sub). Power & Ground: 4AWG Streetwires w/RockFosgt RFDB1 distro blocks. Input: HU lineout--Kicker KISL RCA adapters--RockFosgt RFIT-6 cables--Audiocontrol Matrix--Monster cables--RSd 500.4--lineout Monstr Cabl to RSd 600.1.
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06-11-2010, 10:17 AM	#30
F32Fleet Lieutenant General 3566 Rep 10,346 Posts Drives: 2015 435i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southeastern US iTrader: (0)	Very interesting. LL04 has been added to the bottle. It really bugs that BMW doesn't get the new oil technologies from Castrol. If I remember correctly the SLX in Europe/UK has since been replaced by an Edge Sport, Edge RS, or something like that.
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06-11-2010, 11:25 AM	#31
123Britt Captain 287 Rep 864 Posts Drives: 15 M235i AT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Madison, Alabama iTrader: (0)	Bavarian Auto Oil Recomendation Based on their website and magazine - Bavarian Autosport they say the "Best" oil they sell is Liqui Moly Longtime High Tech / SAE 5W-30. . . This is over Redline --- which is hard for me to believe. LL-04 for Liqui. . .
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09-18-2018, 01:45 PM	#34
Sameen_619 New Member 0 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 08 LCI 335d E90 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Manchester, UK iTrader: (0)	Hi guys, i am looking to do my first oil change on my E90 335d that i bought recently. Can i use the oil in the link below. https://www.halfords.com/motoring/en...q=castrol+edge Thank you.
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