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10-05-2015, 04:18 AM | #1 |
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330i Suddenly Lunges Forward?
Hello, BMW people. So, my beloved 330i E90 saloon is pretty much dead. Wife crashed it in Aldi car park yesterday. Front is a mess, grill smashed bonnet crumpled etc.
Now, she says she started the car and moved it forward to access the boot and put shopping in, then as she was getting back into teh car (half way in, door still open), the car, unbidden, suddenly lunged violently forwards, raced 20 feet across the car park, and collided with the back of a Nissan Quashi. Anybody heard of this happening before? Sudden surges, I mean, not wives crashing... |
10-05-2015, 04:25 AM | #2 |
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I'm sure if you Googled it you'd find loads of examples of autos allegedly leaping forward without driver involvement (particularly in the US). Pretty sure it's across several manufacturers too...
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10-05-2015, 04:26 AM | #3 |
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Ouch not a good day i'm pretty sure mine wont open with the engine running, were you with her at the time ?
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10-05-2015, 04:32 AM | #4 |
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No I was at home, doing my son's homework with him, after which I was due for some chilling time. Then the phone rang...
In my view, the most likely scenarios are: a) She left the car in Drive by mistake, it rolled, she panicked, and hit the accelerator instead of the brake; 0r b) A freak car fault. I'll take the key fob to BMW and see what they say. Just had the car MOT'd (at a local, private garage) on Friday, two new tyres put on etc. Nice timing. |
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10-05-2015, 05:06 AM | #8 |
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At a guess i'd say shes left it in drive with the handbrake on, and the handbrakes not been strong enough to hold the car against the engine. Its maybe even held initially, then let go a short time later.
If the box was in neutral or park i dont see how it could set off across the car park. |
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Did the airbags deploy, if not it likely wasnt that fast at all, bear in mind the front of modern cars are specifically designed to crumple for pedestrian safety. |
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10-05-2015, 05:52 AM | #12 |
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Well, she said she was halfway in, door still open. Airbag didn't deploy. It's subjective, and of course she was shaken etc. but she said the car 'shot across the car park', fast, travelled maybe 20 feet then hit a Nissan Quashi.
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10-05-2015, 06:00 AM | #13 |
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Thankfully no one hurt as could have been quite bad if she was half in/half out the car. I've never had experience of this happening or heard of it on any of the auto's I've had or know of. Does sound like maybe accidently left in D though because if it was in P or neutral then nothing is engaged to allow it to shoot forward.
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10-05-2015, 06:04 AM | #14 |
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Any sort of unexpected movement is going to be perceived as "fast" in a situation like that i'd have thaught, but yeh who knows.
Perhaps she left it in drive with the handbrake on, then accidentally pressed the throttle when shes got in. No airbags indicates it was a pretty low speed impact, but then i'm not sure how fast the car would have got to with 20feet of full throttle anyway. Theres been a few youtube videos of crazy carpark collisions and a theme in a few of them is the car going backwards and forwards smashing into stuff. I think it must start out with the person pressing the throttle by accident, then somehow instead of lifting off the throttle they instead yank the shifter into reverse, then when it shoots back, yank it back into drive again, so the car ends up pinballing off about 5 different cars :P I guess if your panicking and your brain thinks your foots on the brake, it'll just keep mashing it down rather than releasing it and reapplying the proper pedal. Theres an amusing track day video where the same thing happens with an instructor in the car and the guy barrels off the track with the throttle floored as he thinks his foots on the brake :P |
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10-05-2015, 12:59 PM | #15 |
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I feel sorry for your partner. I wouldn't try and push for more information from her. My partner once damaged my car and I got the hint she wasn't happy due the fact she could t answer what happen.
Whatever happened it wouldn't fix the accident. I left it go and never asked her what happen. After all is just a car and I made her pay for everything. |
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My wife returned from a shopping trip with my mother in law in my car, she returned with a damaged front end, she said it was fine when it was parked and when she returned later the damage had been done. I said no more at the time. 25 years later her mother reminisced about the day and I was within earshot, apparently my wife just drove in to a wall in a car park. I never liked the mother in law.
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10-06-2015, 12:09 PM | #19 |
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Just got the call from the garage: £6k repair bill (and it's not a BMW body shop). If the insurance company agree to pay, rather than write the car off, I think I'll be selling it.
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10-06-2015, 12:42 PM | #21 |
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Well, partly due to the accident, partly because I'm sick of having to keep putting petrol in it. It's been fun, having a nice six cylinder petrol, but to be honest I don't really use the power any more and I'd swap it for something more economical if I could.
A few years ago, somebody in a van ran into the back of my car, which resulted in about £5k of repairs (done by BMW). Now it's had a front-end crash too, I just think enough's enough. Structurally, the car is fine, but I just feel it's time for a change. The garage that's fixing it say the book price is around £11k, which seems high to me. But we shall see. |
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10-06-2015, 03:51 PM | #22 | |
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I did something similar - got out after starting the engine to quickly check I had something I needed in my briefcase and after I shut the tailgate the car set off - I'd left it in D with the handbrake just on and the force of shutting the tailgate caused the handbrake to give way and the diesel torque did the rest . Luckily I could ran round to the drivers door, hit the brake with my left foot and cut the ignition before it hit anything. I could have easily hit the accelerator instead and really messed things up.
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