[Lane]

Originally Posted by johnnymu

to replace to a m3 cf roof will be very expensive not worth it.

How much would it be? $5000? The weight saving must be some 10-15lbs?

[SV Concepts III]

Vorsteiner may be doing a CF roof replacement as well

[hl0m4n]

Originally Posted by Nick@Jlevi SW

Vorsteiner may be doing a CF roof replacement as well

a full cf roof? big hole in wallet. it's a pita to install but sooo worth it.

[asdflkijd]

will there be any new versions for the E90??

[johnnymu]

Originally Posted by Lane

How much would it be? $5000? The weight saving must be some 10-15lbs?

To be honest I would not be surprise if it's more than that. Your talking about recutting the steel structure that is holding the oem hood first of all, then remaking it. Alot of work. Better to just put the carbonfiber overlay. If I get ichy maybe i'll look into this more but surely it will not be worth it.

[Neema]

I like!!!

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by johnnymu

To be honest I would not be surprise if it's more than that. Your talking about recutting the steel structure that is holding the oem hood first of all, then remaking it. Alot of work. Better to just put the carbonfiber overlay. If I get ichy maybe i'll look into this more but surely it will not be worth it.

The sunroof itself weighs approximately 50-60 pounds, so I am not sure why anyone would think the roof between a 335i with a sunroof is only 15 lbs heavier than non-sunroof M3 with CF.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by Lane

How much would it be? $5000? The weight saving must be some 10-15lbs?

If one is to truly start doing such modifications to obtain something the factory offers in a variant model, AKA M3, I think the person should just purchase the M3 in the first place.

[johnnymu]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

If one is to truly start doing such modifications to obtain something the factory offers in a variant model, AKA M3, I think the person should just purchase the M3 in the first place.

Well the one reason why someone would do this is cause it's the idea there 1 of 1. But definately a pricey convergent.

[sillygoat]

i'd rather just buy that carbon fiber overlay for the roof. way easier to install.. and cheap.

[Lane]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

The sunroof itself weighs approximately 50-60 pounds, so I am not sure why anyone would think the roof between a 335i with a sunroof is only 15 lbs heavier than non-sunroof M3 with CF.

As you can understand from my posting, I'm very conscious when it comes to having weight at the ROOF level. Doesn't make sense at all. So, no, I don't have sunroof ruining my center of gravity and thus for me the difference cannot be more than some 15lbs, but I'm willing to pay for getting that 15lbs off my roof.

[Lane]

Overlay would add the weight, not decrease it. Having an overlay would be plain stupid.

[Lane]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

If one is to truly start doing such modifications to obtain something the factory offers in a variant model, AKA M3, I think the person should just purchase the M3 in the first place.

That is out of the question, since M3 lacks the turbos. I need to have turbos. At least one turbo being the minimum number. I also want to have the carbon fiber hood without the powerdome, because I don't like my car to resemble a car which does not have FI. I will have twin exhaust (not quads) etc and I do everything that my car is considered a proper FI car i.e. 335i. However, the carbon roof is functional and I would consider painting it white if the paint would not add the weight. I would hate my car to be considered M3 wannabe.

[Crazy Bimmer]

Are we ruining our handling by decreasing the weight? Arent we upsetting the 51/49 weight distribution?

Or is the weight savings not that much to upset it?

[SV Concepts III]

The change in weight distribution is really not enough to drastically change the handling characteristics of the car. The car will benefit from reduced weigh through faster acceleration and increased agility however.

[pheonix77]

Originally Posted by gtrokin330

just like everything else, vorsteiner can do Silver Cf with the extra charge right?

Just a bit of information...there is no such thing as colored carbon fiber...the silver carbon fiber that every thinks is carbon fiber is really fiberglass with an aluminized coating...it's called texalium...

and yes they would be happy to increase their margin by providing a cheaper material in your hood...and still pass it off as carbon fiber...

[pheonix77]

Originally Posted by johnnymu

not sure what your experience with carbonfiber but from my own experience whenever I paint over carbonfiber over time the paint will warp and only solution i can find is to repaint it over again. therefore from my experience i'm going expose as much carbonfiber as i can and not have to deal with it. if anyone else has a better experience or a explaination i would love to hear this. but for the mean time i'm going with less paint.

The warp that you refer to is called "print through"...you can't get around it...the only way to get around it is if the manufacture put a veil cloth prior to the layers of the fabric whether carbon of fiberglass...this creates a resin rich layer that reduces print through...but since most of you guys like to have the carbon shown you can do that as it will leave a cloudy surface finish...so you can't have it both ways...

[SV Concepts III]

Originally Posted by pheonix77

Just a bit of information...there is no such thing as colored carbon fiber...the silver carbon fiber that every thinks is carbon fiber is really fiberglass with an aluminized coating...it's called texalium...

and yes they would be happy to increase their margin by providing a cheaper material in your hood...and still pass it off as carbon fiber...

I spoke with Vorsteiner about this process and they actually use a real Carbon Fiber base with a silver coating so you still get the same weight saving benefits as the standard color.

[ACT111]

Originally Posted by sillygoat

just messing around to see how im gonna make this match with TiAg

here's a quick photoshop
let me know what you think.. yes or no?

just trying to find a way to expose the carbon fiber a little bit without killing the look of the car.



let me know if you guys have any other better solutions... im thinking i might just have the whole thing painted and leaving the vents CF

I like that paint scheme!

[SV Concepts III]

Originally Posted by ACT111

I like that paint scheme!

It looks familiar

[sky18188v]

Originally Posted by Jlevi SW

Special color vents are $120 more, as is any special color! Also, Vorsteiner won't do Silver CF on the hoods or bootlids!

Thanks
JL

but they still make black cf hood with silver cf vents correct?

[Gen_E92]

why did they decide to not make the dvwp version with cf vents? i'd imagine thats the most popular version. plus cf cost more to paint