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      10-27-2020, 03:54 PM   #4291
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How old are your kids now, if you don't mind me asking? We are about to have our first in January and am wondering at what age is the E91 too small.
I bought our E91 to have a reliable wagon just before ours was born. She's just over 2 years now and the E91 is perfect! An extra adult is fine in the back, two are tight for long trips. The hatch fits a stroller and extra baby stuff just fine and you can get a rack and roof box for extra storage.
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I bought our E91 to have a reliable wagon just before ours was born. She's just over 2 years now and the E91 is perfect! An extra adult is fine in the back, two are tight for long trips. The hatch fits a stroller and extra baby stuff just fine and you can get a rack and roof box for extra storage.
Awesome, this is exactly what I was hoping to hear! And I already have a roof box!
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How old are your kids now, if you don't mind me asking? We are about to have our first in January and am wondering at what age is the E91 too small.
Congrats! Echoing what eljay said, you'll be fine with 1.

The car seats are the problem when you have too many kids like us. We have 2 toddlers and an infant and got a pair of Diono seats for the toddlers. The infant seat fits in between, but I think 3 Dionos across may not work since the infant seat base is a couple inches narrower.

The storage is enough to do a grocery run with a stroller in the back. We haven't done much shopping since the pandemic but we've taken both E91s when we've gone to Costco or IKEA and thought space was going to be an issue.

The only reason we'll need a different car is to accommodate 3 of the car seats in the back if that becomes an issue. I don't understand why people think they need a 3 ton SUV to accommodate a couple of kids. FWIW, we had my E82 and my wife had her 318ti when our first baby was born and we lived to tell about it!
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Also bought the E91 as a daily family hauler for short trips/daily to work and around town activities 4 Doors. Like what eljay and E91WAG3N the E91 is able to fit a stroller in the bag and if oriented the right way can fit a couple of duffle bags. In rare occasions, we also have a roof box to use if extra storage is needed.

Our daughter is 2.5 years old and plenty of room in the back even with the car seat. The X5M gets driven on the weekend and for farther trips/across states. Overall, the E91 is a very versatile and will suit our needs even if we have a second kid.
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How old are your kids now, if you don't mind me asking? We are about to have our first in January and am wondering at what age is the E91 too small.
Congrats! Echoing what eljay said, you'll be fine with 1.

The car seats are the problem when you have too many kids like us. We have 2 toddlers and an infant and got a pair of Diono seats for the toddlers. The infant seat fits in between, but I think 3 Dionos across may not work since the infant seat base is a couple inches narrower.

The storage is enough to do a grocery run with a stroller in the back. We haven't done much shopping since the pandemic but we've taken both E91s when we've gone to Costco or IKEA and thought space was going to be an issue.

The only reason we'll need a different car is to accommodate 3 of the car seats in the back if that becomes an issue. I don't understand why people think they need a 3 ton SUV to accommodate a couple of kids. FWIW, we had my E82 and my wife had her 318ti when our first baby was born and we lived to tell about it!
Funny you say that since when I bought my E82 it was from a family that had one toddler and they said it wasn't big enough : although its fine for me since I got a 1 series for cheap
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Great family hauler/daily but I'm playing around with the idea of getting a F31D.
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For sale at a dealer near me. Its AT w/xDrive, but its a single hump with low miles.

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Great family hauler/daily but I'm playing around with the idea of getting a F31D.
Are those Xenon lights? If so, which bulbs are you using for the angel eyes? They look clean and bright!

Good looking wagon by the way. I debated getting a F31 Diesel instead of an E91; however, the F31 motor and transfer case issues turned me away.
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For sale at a dealer near me. Its AT w/xDrive, but its a single hump with low miles.

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Sharp looking E91. How many pedals does it have? Thinking of selling?
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No iDrive, so the dash only has one hump for the gauge cluster.

Now what I donít know is why single humps are so desirable? CCC in 2020 doesnít blow me socks off but Iíd rather have that than scroll through the MFD.
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Awesome, this is exactly what I was hoping to hear! And I already have a roof box!
Just to add, we cannot fit our infant seat behind the driver, and it doesn't fit in the middle either. It'll just barely work behind the passenger, but the passenger gets a bit cramped if its scooted up enough. The E91 is fine as a second vehicle for occasional use, but I think it'd be a pain to get everything in there for a longer road trip. Maybe when my son is front facing, but we've got at least another year in the enormous infant seat. We've got a Chicco Fit2, in case anyone is curious.

The lack of room is mainly why I've been eyeing E61s, but my wife has an MDX that honestly is all of the road trip car that we really need. For road trips, our MDX swallows all of our crap including our ridiculously large BOB stroller, gets almost the same mileage as the E91 and who cares about handling when you're just pointing it at the interstate and setting the cruise.
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No iDrive, so the dash only has one hump for the gauge cluster.

Now what I donít know is why single humps are so desirable? CCC in 2020 doesnít blow me socks off but Iíd rather have that than scroll through the MFD.
It is truly a fad I am convinced. Like you said, it won't blow you away with its features but having bluetooth sound, quick ability to scroll through music/radio/car settings is way better than the MFD/non iDrive radio. Ill never understand the single hump obsession.
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It is truly a fad I am convinced. Like you said, it won't blow you away with its features but having bluetooth sound, quick ability to scroll through music/radio/car settings is way better than the MFD/non iDrive radio. Ill never understand the single hump obsession.
Iím glad Iím not the only one! Fad...
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I can appreciate the work youíve put into the car but $13k for a salvage title 200k+ mile car is absurd.

Cars and bids just had an auction wrap up for a similar but clean titled 6MT car for $7500. Best of luck with your sale.
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Great family hauler/daily but I'm playing around with the idea of getting a F31D.
Are those Xenon lights? If so, which bulbs are you using for the angel eyes? They look clean and bright!

Good looking wagon by the way. I debated getting a F31 Diesel instead of an E91; however, the F31 motor and transfer case issues turned me away.
lights were retrofitted by Lightwerkz in NJ

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Awesome, this is exactly what I was hoping to hear! And I already have a roof box!
Just to add, we cannot fit our infant seat behind the driver, and it doesn't fit in the middle either. It'll just barely work behind the passenger, but the passenger gets a bit cramped if its scooted up enough. The E91 is fine as a second vehicle for occasional use, but I think it'd be a pain to get everything in there for a longer road trip. Maybe when my son is front facing, but we've got at least another year in the enormous infant seat. We've got a Chicco Fit2, in case anyone is curious.

The lack of room is mainly why I've been eyeing E61s, but my wife has an MDX that honestly is all of the road trip car that we really need. For road trips, our MDX swallows all of our crap including our ridiculously large BOB stroller, gets almost the same mileage as the E91 and who cares about handling when you're just pointing it at the interstate and setting the cruise.
Bummer to hear this, someone just gifted us the Chicco KeyFit 30. Sounds like it will be a tight fit as rear-facing for a while! I will have to test-fit it once we receive it. My niece's front facing car seat had no problems in my E91. So hoping I can last with the rear-facing infant for a while (the car seat that is! .
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Just to add, we cannot fit our infant seat behind the driver, and it doesn't fit in the middle either. It'll just barely work behind the passenger, but the passenger gets a bit cramped if its scooted up enough. The E91 is fine as a second vehicle for occasional use, but I think it'd be a pain to get everything in there for a longer road trip. Maybe when my son is front facing, but we've got at least another year in the enormous infant seat. We've got a Chicco Fit2, in case anyone is curious.

The lack of room is mainly why I've been eyeing E61s, but my wife has an MDX that honestly is all of the road trip car that we really need. For road trips, our MDX swallows all of our crap including our ridiculously large BOB stroller, gets almost the same mileage as the E91 and who cares about handling when you're just pointing it at the interstate and setting the cruise.
The rear facing car seats are absoluely insane and take up a ton of space. I had one in the back of my E46 when we had it, my poor wife who is 5'8" was not thrilled. But we managed. Same thing in my E90 when we had car seats in it for a brief period, better than E46 obviously, but still not ideal. Once we got into forward facing seats, it was a huge breath of fresh air! And now, my girls are old enough that my 8 year old (extremely tall) sits in the front seat, and the younger 7 year old is in back with simply the booster seat...

If you can survive through the rear facing seats in your E91, just push through it, its not forever and I don't think you should make car purchases based simply on that, the car seat phase is only temporary.

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Iím glad Iím not the only one! Fad...
God bless you both! I agree 1000%. Many people say that the single hump dash is "the enthusiast build" which I think is total BS. We're all enthusiasts, regardless of what options we like. Personally, I want my cars loaded up... Leather, iDrive, heated everything (yes, even in South FL I use heated seats)... Like you both said, the Nav might not blow you away, but just the ease of getting to settings is enough for me to always be a two-hump dash fan.
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Many people say that the single hump dash is "the enthusiast build" which I think is total BS. We're all enthusiasts, regardless of what options we like. Personally, I want my cars loaded up... Leather, iDrive, heated everything (yes, even in South FL I use heated seats)... Like you both said, the Nav might not blow you away, but just the ease of getting to settings is enough for me to always be a two-hump dash fan.
Right here with you my dude. Everyone has their own definition of what is an enthusiast build. And we're all enthusiasts here at this point.

Enthusiast E91 to me is:
LCI with pre-LCI heated mirrors, m-sport bumpers and trim
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heated seats with a nice individual soft leather.
logic 7 individual audio sound

BMW never made this car, so I personally could care less how it came from the factory 10 years ago

Now that I have a truck that I use for most truck things though, I'm leaning towards setting up the e91 for my stepdaughter for going away to college, selling my TT, and finding an e88 or e93 to do all the mods to...
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Awesome, this is exactly what I was hoping to hear! And I already have a roof box!
Just to add, we cannot fit our infant seat behind the driver, and it doesn't fit in the middle either. It'll just barely work behind the passenger, but the passenger gets a bit cramped if its scooted up enough. The E91 is fine as a second vehicle for occasional use, but I think it'd be a pain to get everything in there for a longer road trip. Maybe when my son is front facing, but we've got at least another year in the enormous infant seat. We've got a Chicco Fit2, in case anyone is curious.

The lack of room is mainly why I've been eyeing E61s, but my wife has an MDX that honestly is all of the road trip car that we really need. For road trips, our MDX swallows all of our crap including our ridiculously large BOB stroller, gets almost the same mileage as the E91 and who cares about handling when you're just pointing it at the interstate and setting the cruise.
Bummer to hear this, someone just gifted us the Chicco KeyFit 30. Sounds like it will be a tight fit as rear-facing for a while! I will have to test-fit it once we receive it. My niece's front facing car seat had no problems in my E91. So hoping I can last with the rear-facing infant for a while (the car seat that is! .
Yeah sorry to bust the bubble a bit. I'm sure when our son is front facing it will be fine, though they're supposed to be rear facing for two years! We're halfway through that but now my wife is talking about having a second one...

Won't someone think about the BMWs?
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Yeah sorry to bust the bubble a bit. I'm sure when our son is front facing it will be fine, though they're supposed to be rear facing for two years! We're halfway through that but now my wife is talking about having a second one...

Won't someone think about the BMWs?
I'm sure I'll take some fire over this, but please don't get too focused on the time that a child is supposed to be in a certain car seat. These "laws" vary state to state and more importantly, every child is a unique case. Depending on your child's weight/height, the rear facing may become too small. We turned our daughter around at 1 year old. She was simply too tall to be rear facing any longer. I see too many people insisting on rear facing car seats and all these other rules and then putting their kids in absolute piece of shit car seats. Instead, having the safest car seat and having the kid fit in it properly I think is a better idea. I don't pretend to be above any laws, or know better than any scientists, just my opinion.
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