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      01-08-2018, 08:19 PM   #1343
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I don’t believe my F32 has Bluetooth streaming from the Factory, so I doubt that would work?
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      01-08-2018, 08:24 PM   #1344
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I don’t believe my F32 has Bluetooth streaming from the Factory, so I doubt that would work?
Worth checking to see if you could get it turned on with coding.
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      01-09-2018, 12:54 AM   #1345
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I think there are three options:

2 - most people do have to hook up the 3.5mm aux to the center console but I don’t think anyone is happy with the audio quality for music
Can it be due to the aux cable type that comes with the unit? For example, what if we changed it to a gold plated aux cable?
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      01-09-2018, 01:11 AM   #1346
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Can it be due to the aux cable type that comes with the unit? For example, what if we changed it to a gold-plated aux cable?
I don't think so, mine does not use the Aux cable it's working without it needing to be connected to the Aux port but I still have the issue so it seems like its a problem with the actual units.

Mine yesterday evening has also stopped working now just reporting 'No Signal' Im going to take it out day/tomorrow to try and reset it but if it does not resolve it im going to have to contact Avin and try and get a refund.
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      01-09-2018, 02:49 AM   #1347
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EXPLANATION
the 22/11/2017 version is NOT STABLE
even if it's beautiful because it's ID6 is not recommended !!
The October version is currently the most stable !!
Disassemble the November and reinstall October.
Tommy will send us a new version as soon as it is available, so any comment or rating with the November version is superfluous because it has several bugs that need to be fixed!
Do not continue to deal with problems on a version that has already given several problems since the beginning but be patient for the new version
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      01-09-2018, 02:54 AM   #1348
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EXPLANATION
the 22/11/2017 version is NOT STABLE
even if it's beautiful because it's ID6 is not recommended !!
The October version is currently the most stable !!
Disassemble the November and reinstall October.
Tommy will send us a new version as soon as it is available, so any comment or rating with the November version is superfluous because it has several bugs that need to be fixed!
Do not continue to deal with problems on a version that has already given several problems since the beginning but be patient for the new version
Does anyone have the img for the October release so I can reload it as I only get mine end of November so only have that release? I need to see if I can reload the system via a SD Card anyways as currently, it's not booting. If anyone has the link please PM me.
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      01-09-2018, 06:05 AM   #1349
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EXPLANATION
the 22/11/2017 version is NOT STABLE
even if it's beautiful because it's ID6 is not recommended !!
The October version is currently the most stable !!
Disassemble the November and reinstall October.
Tommy will send us a new version as soon as it is available, so any comment or rating with the November version is superfluous because it has several bugs that need to be fixed!
Do not continue to deal with problems on a version that has already given several problems since the beginning but be patient for the new version
How is the audio quality with the October version?
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      01-09-2018, 06:12 AM   #1350
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How is the audio quality with the October version?
The audio quality DOES NOT depend on the firmware version but on the hardware
The GEN1 version has a bad quality because the hardware
no has the physical connection between the processor and the processor
audio then those who have the GEN1 must resign there is no possibility to improve the audio, while the GEN 2 has undergone changes in hardware and indeed has much better audio.
The various versions of idrive BMW can make the difference on the audio
but GEN2 has better quality
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      01-09-2018, 06:14 AM   #1351
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How is the audio quality with the October version?
ask him to tommy
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      01-09-2018, 07:44 AM   #1352
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Can I ask if the instrument cluster still shows audio data and nav directions?
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      01-09-2018, 05:03 PM   #1353
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Can I ask if the instrument cluster still shows audio data and nav directions?
Not from the android side.
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      01-09-2018, 05:23 PM   #1354
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Lack of Brightness on iDrive, not Android screen

My iDrive screen is too dim to see during the day. Android screen is fine. The iDrive brightness control is fixed at 5 (50%) and can neither be increased nor decreased.

Has anyone had this issue and is there a fix?
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      01-10-2018, 01:21 AM   #1355
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I think there are three options:

1 - some people aren’t hooking up to aux and are getting sound, not sure on sound quality

2 - most people do have to hook up the 3.5mm aux to the center console but I don’t think anyone is happy with the audio quality for music

3 - run audio through BMW Bluetooth, stock sound quality
Why bluetooth sounds better than AUX if the sound problem is claimed to be a hardware issue and not anything else?
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      01-10-2018, 02:19 AM   #1356
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Why bluetooth sounds better than AUX if the sound problem is claimed to be a hardware issue and not anything else?
Because when you're using the BMW Bluetooth unit you are bypassing the Avin unit for the sound and only using it as a display for CarPlay/Android Auto.
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      01-10-2018, 03:14 AM   #1357
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Because when you're using the BMW Bluetooth unit you are bypassing the Avin unit for the sound and only using it as a display for CarPlay/Android Auto.
Thanks but do you have Gen1 or 2? Actually I don't have Enhanced Bluetooth in my car, so do you think if I got Bluetooth audio receiver will make the sound any better than the Avin AUX?

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      01-10-2018, 03:35 AM   #1358
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Thanks but do you have Gen1 or 2? Actually I don't have Enhanced Bluetooth in my car, so do you think if I got Bluetooth audio receiver will make the sound any better than the Avin AUX?
I have the Gen 2 unit. If you do not have the option of BMW Bluetooth I can only think that maybe an Aux to Bluetooth adapter may help but either way, bypassing the Avin unit is not ideal as it causing other issues.

Unless they can somehow fix the audio outputted from the Avin unit I think we are stuck with the bad audio.
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      01-10-2018, 05:18 AM   #1359
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I wanted to understand one thing: at the moment, while I use Android auto, I have to swich to Aux bmw so I can listen to the Android audio, so if I connect the Aux cable from the display to the armrest, would the situation improve?
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      01-10-2018, 05:25 AM   #1360
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I wanted to understand one thing: at the moment, while I use Android auto, I have to swich to Aux bmw so I can listen to the Android audio, so if I connect the Aux cable from the display to the armrest, would the situation improve?
All audio works via the BMW Aux, mine intermittently automatically switch to this its a bit hit and miss it seems it depends on the screen you go to do when I goto CarPlay it will default to the last device I used where as if I play a Video via the Avin unit it will switch the BMW to use Aux, tbh I dont want them to fix this as currently, I use the BMW Bluetooth rather than Aux so having it automatically switch will mean I have to switch back to bluetooth every time it starts.
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      01-10-2018, 06:01 AM   #1361
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It must be the aux connection that gives people bad sound quality.

My car does not have the green optical cable, and i dont have to connect the aux in the armrest to get sound.

And the sound quality is very good and just as it is with the original IDrive.

I use high quality mp3 files on USB and Spotify with extreme quality downloaded to the unit.
Very satisfied with the quality

Sound trough AUX and Blutooth is not usable imo anyway.
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      01-10-2018, 06:06 AM   #1362
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It must be the aux connection that gives people bad sound quality.

My car does not have the green optical cable, and i dont have to connect the aux in the armrest to get sound.

And the sound quality is very good and just as it is with the original IDrive.

I use high quality mp3 files on USB and Spotify with extreme quality downloaded to the unit.
Very satisfied with the quality

Sound trough AUX and Blutooth is not usable imo anyway.
I didnt get you Bozzern, so how the Avin unit sound output comes from your car?
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      01-10-2018, 06:23 AM   #1363
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Sharing my experience:
Device: my device is also from China, although it came from an European importer and not from AVIN USA.
Specifications:
• Operating voltage: 12 V (10.8-16V)
• Maximum current consumption : 15 A
• Operating temperature range: -10ºC-60ºC
• 10,25 “ screen
• Company: Shenzhen Kinylywin Electronics Co., Ltd
Hardware:
• Processor: MTK8127
• Frequency: Quad Core Cortex A7, Frequency 1.3 GHz
• RAM: 1GB DDR3
• ROM : 16 GB Nand Flash
• Screen resolution: 1024*600 LVDS high definition LCD
• Network communication: supports GPS, BT, WiFi
• Multimedia: supports GPS, BT, WiFi
Software:
• Operating System; Android 4.4.4
• Device Model: rkpx3
• Kernel version: 3.0.36+ zxw@zxw-ubuntu #389 Mon Dec 19 16:58:22 CST 2016
• Compilation number: rkpx3-eng 4.4.4 KTU84Q eng.zxw.20161219.165857 test-keys
• MCUVer: 0120aJLY-NBT-HW1-170809 [BMW-0505J-170804C]
• APPVer: 20170823-Ver1.0.0.0001_foreign_A

For me, the main problem is the poor GPS, it takes about three minutes to fix the position, so I began to address this problem.
A cleared AGPS data, no luck.
I read that some of these Chinese devices have a file gps.conf that “looks” first for Chinese ntp servers and it would be a good idea to update that file for another version with other time servers, in my case, europe.pool.ntp.org.
I rooted the unit with Kingoroot (very easy, it worked at first try) but there was no gps.conf file in the system/etc (only another gps file that only had the 9600 baud rate).
After rooting it became extremely slow and with a strange behaviour (it was always asking for su access), so I removed the rooting (also very easy, one click) and here I am with a good device and a very slow GPS.
As the guy who installed the unit in my F32, put the GPS receiver inside the passenger A-pilar, I removed it from there and put it over the dashboard and it seems to be a little better.
Any idea on the software side to improve this?
If not, I think the next step will be to buy a Adafruit GPS Antenna - External Active Antenna - 3-5V 28dB 5 Meter SMA [ADA960] to see if it improves (I think – I hope - it works with this device).
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      01-10-2018, 06:27 AM   #1364
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Originally Posted by arainho View Post
Sharing my experience:
Device: my device is also from China, although it came from an European importer and not from AVIN USA.
Specifications:
• Operating voltage: 12 V (10.8-16V)
• Maximum current consumption : 15 A
• Operating temperature range: -10ºC-60ºC
• 10,25 “ screen
• Company: Shenzhen Kinylywin Electronics Co., Ltd
Hardware:
• Processor: MTK8127
• Frequency: Quad Core Cortex A7, Frequency 1.3 GHz
• RAM: 1GB DDR3
• ROM : 16 GB Nand Flash
• Screen resolution: 1024*600 LVDS high definition LCD
• Network communication: supports GPS, BT, WiFi
• Multimedia: supports GPS, BT, WiFi
Software:
• Operating System; Android 4.4.4
• Device Model: rkpx3
• Kernel version: 3.0.36+ zxw@zxw-ubuntu #389 Mon Dec 19 16:58:22 CST 2016
• Compilation number: rkpx3-eng 4.4.4 KTU84Q eng.zxw.20161219.165857 test-keys
• MCUVer: 0120aJLY-NBT-HW1-170809 [BMW-0505J-170804C]
• APPVer: 20170823-Ver1.0.0.0001_foreign_A

For me, the main problem is the poor GPS, it takes about three minutes to fix the position, so I began to address this problem.
A cleared AGPS data, no luck.
I read that some of these Chinese devices have a file gps.conf that “looks” first for Chinese ntp servers and it would be a good idea to update that file for another version with other time servers, in my case, europe.pool.ntp.org.
I rooted the unit with Kingoroot (very easy, it worked at first try) but there was no gps.conf file in the system/etc (only another gps file that only had the 9600 baud rate).
After rooting it became extremely slow and with a strange behaviour (it was always asking for su access), so I removed the rooting (also very easy, one click) and here I am with a good device and a very slow GPS.
As the guy who installed the unit in my F32, put the GPS receiver inside the passenger A-pilar, I removed it from there and put it over the dashboard and it seems to be a little better.
Any idea on the software side to improve this?
If not, I think the next step will be to buy a Adafruit GPS Antenna - External Active Antenna - 3-5V 28dB 5 Meter SMA [ADA960] to see if it improves (I think – I hope - it works with this device).
This must be a problem with the GPS Units being supplied, I used a Y Splitter from the factory BMW GPS unit and have no problems with GPS Signal.

I would suggest buying a higher quality GPS reciever
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