[titandavid2008]

So I have been scouring the forums for a good INPA download and have came up with nothing that works. MikeseasyBMWtools works.....but I have no option to change the language so it is in German. That seems to be the ONLY download that works for me.

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by titandavid2008

So I have been scouring the forums for a good INPA download and have came up with nothing that works. MikeseasyBMWtools works.....but I have no option to change the language so it is in German. That seems to be the ONLY download that works for me.

Did you try bimmergeeks?

[ctuna]

Bimmergeeks.net


Be sure to follow the instructions exactly and get standard tools
working before going on to Ista D

Its one of the easier ones to install.
There cable is recommended.
The German is not that complicated in Inpa and all copy's are basicly like
that.(As George often points out use Google translate)
ISTA D for diagnostics.
But if you get Ista D going its all English and it is so much more powerful
for diagnostics.
Its like having a shop manual with a searchable data base.
Also provides guided troubleshooting.

diagnostic manual ista/inpa
https://bimmerprofs.com/diagnostics-inpa-part-1/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xo19teM9vkTF-C
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...7x8H3pN8h1fMuF
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do

You are stuck with the Standard Tools suite for coding
and programming unless you buy one of the canned
phone apps. ProTools from bimmergeeks is the best one.
No subscription and they are always adding stuff to it.

[tlow98]

Been struggling to get ISTA-D going myself.

Appreciate the tidbit about getting bimmertools working, ctuna. After getting windows parralel up and running, and downloading from bimmer geeks I’m almost about to just got with Protool instead. Already have their cable

I’ve never had an issue with software before, but this just seems to be annoyingly riddled with wrong turns (self inflicted for sure) :-/

[ctuna]

Most of the problems with the Ista D install are caused from not
following the instructions in the order they are presented and not
understanding pc's . It appears that the standard tools portion is not
compressed/zipped but the ista stuff is .
Ista will work well in windows 7 to 10 but there are things that
must be in place like a full set of C++ microsoft executables and
Netframework 4.7 or better .
When I unzip the Ista file's I put them in a temporary holding folder.
Also all the install steps must be done as Administrator.

For windows 10
Windows 10 kind of makes it hard to be the Administrator
and the Command prompt they talk about in the install instructions
is now the Power Shell in Window 10 . You access it by right clicking
on start . Two versions will be displayed the normal and admin versions
always use the admin version.
When starting ista D from desktop icon right click on it and run as admin.
You can change the property's on the Icon so it will always run as admin
by right clicking and changing said property's to admin.

You must have a computer that has an extra 50gigs or more on the hard drive it's a big program. Yep it's not always that simple.
I struggled with earlier versions from other sources and managed to get them going
but it was a workout. The bimmergeeks one is fairly simple in comparison.

[tlow98]

Thank you much! Getting me going again on this...

[iqraceworks]

I'm in the same boat. I've been fighting INPA for several days now. I've been able to get it installed on two different laptops, got all of the drivers for the cables working, followed all of the setup instructions exactly......but I still can't get the two "Black Dots" lit up in INPA showing that there is a connection.

One of my laptops has WinXP on it, the other has Win10 and needs to run INPA using a virtual machine (VMWare).

At this point...I think I'm going to just start from scratch, deleted everything..and give it a try again.

Frustrating to say the least.....


On a side note....can someone explain what all of the different programs can do? And what you would use them for? INPA, ISTA-D, NCSExpert, etc, etc.....

[tlow98]

ISTA-D = diagnostic software 20-50gb needed
ISTA-P = programming software 100-200gb needed

That’s what I know :-)

[ian3924]

Originally Posted by iqraceworks

I'm in the same boat. I've been fighting INPA for several days now. I've been able to get it installed on two different laptops, got all of the drivers for the cables working, followed all of the setup instructions exactly......but I still can't get the two "Black Dots" lit up in INPA showing that there is a connection.

One of my laptops has WinXP on it, the other has Win10 and needs to run INPA using a virtual machine (VMWare).

At this point...I think I'm going to just start from scratch, deleted everything..and give it a try again.

Frustrating to say the least.....


On a side note....can someone explain what all of the different programs can do? And what you would use them for? INPA, ISTA-D, NCSExpert, etc, etc.....

Is your cable establishing the connection? I remember to get mine working correctly i had to go into the cables properties and change the com port setting if i remember correctly, theres a YouTube video on how to do it.

[iqraceworks]

Originally Posted by ian3924

Is your cable establishing the connection? I remember to get mine working correctly i had to go into the cables properties and change the com port setting if i remember correctly, theres a YouTube video on how to do it.

The laptop will see the cable when I put it in, the drive is correct for the cable, I have all the COM port settings correct.....but when I fire up INPA......I can't get it to connect, the black dot for the battery and ignition never turn on.

I have no errors, or any other faults popping up. Very frustrating.

[ctuna]

There is no need of any virtual machines if you have a decent
windows laptop running win 7 to 10 for any of this.
Virtual machines are only needed for apple products now
and are a burdensome over head on speed and processing.
Yep you need a lot of disk space for the Ista programs and
more memory and greater processing ability is always better.
I think xp is just not powerful enough for ista but it's fine
for Inpa standard tools only.

If you are a 335 guy with a tune you have to set your tune to a bypass
tune map . If you take the car to BMW or and Indy the same thing will
happen with there diag setup. The tunes stop the normal communication
process.

[iqraceworks]

Originally Posted by ctuna

There is no need of any virtual machines if you have a decent
windows laptop running win 7 to 10 for any of this.
Virtual machines are only needed for apple products now
and are a burdensome over head on speed and processing.
Yep you need a lot of disk space for the Ista programs and
more memory and greater processing ability is always better.
I think xp is just not powerful enough for ista but it's fine
for Inpa standard tools only.

If you are a 335 guy with a tune you have to set your tune to a bypass
tune map . If you take the car to BMW or and Indy the same thing will
happen with there diag setup. The tunes stop the normal communication
process.

Ahh.......first I heard about that! Yes, I'm running the MHD Stage 2 tune.

So I need to flash the DME back to the stock tune before I can get INPA to connect? I'm guessing that's been my problem all along.

I will have to try it tonight and see if I can get it to connect after I get the stock tune back in the car.

[ctuna]

The juice Boxes have a map 0 that returns things to stock
without removing the tune. I thought most of tune packages
have this option.

This site is really screwy again today. It times out before the reply
can happen more often than not.

[iqraceworks]

Originally Posted by ctuna

The juice Boxes have a map 0 that returns things to stock
without removing the tune. I thought most of tune packages
have this option.

This site is really screwy again today. It times out before the reply
can happen more often than not.

I'm just running the MHD flash....I'm not running the JB4 box.

With the MHD, I think I just need to flash it back to the stock tune.

Anyone know for sure?

[ctuna]

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...php?p=19795028

See entry 5222 from the above thread.

There is a picture of the available maps and map 0 is a bypass map.
Maybe this is not what you have?

[iqraceworks]

Originally Posted by ctuna

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...php?p=19795028

See entry 5222 from the above thread.

There is a picture of the available maps and map 0 is a bypass map.
Maybe this is not what you have?

After reading through the posts on that thread.....it sounds like MHD doesn't keep you from using diagnostic software??

I will play around with it tonight and see if I can figure something out.

[ctuna]

Maybe you should give MHD a call.
Also verify your PC setup on a non modified car.

[IllSic_Design]

MHD should not keep you from using INPA, I had no problems last time I used it and I run the MHD flex fuel OTS tunes.

[dpaul]

Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

MHD should not keep you from using INPA, I had no problems last time I used it and I run the MHD flex fuel OTS tunes.

+1

The only thing MHD will prevent you from doing is reading out program and parameter areas of DME memory, not a function you'd use INPA for anyway. There should be no problem connecting to the vehicle and using INPA diagnostic functions for the DME or any other module.

[9krpmrx8]

Text this guy named John, (757)344-6556. he can remote into your laptop and set everything up. His prices are very reasonable as well. He has done it for me on two separate laptops.

[iqraceworks]

Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8

Text this guy named John, (757)344-6556. he can remote into your laptop and set everything up. His prices are very reasonable as well. He has done it for me on two separate laptops.

Awesome!! Thanks!

[gbalthrop]

Originally Posted by iqraceworks

The laptop will see the cable when I put it in, the drive is correct for the cable, I have all the COM port settings correct.....but when I fire up INPA......I can't get it to connect, the black dot for the battery and ignition never turn on.

Perhaps your K+DCAN Cable is NOT connecting to the "K-line" as your particular OBD II Socket is wired?

If you have never connected ANY software program (INPA, NCS, etc.) to any module on that car, using that cable, then perhaps the issue is the cable pins or bridge are NOT properly matched to the OBD II Socket on THAT vehicle.

QUESTIONS:
1) What is the build Month/Year of your 2007 335i?
2) What brand K+DCAN cable do you have?
3) Does it have a slide switch on it to "bridge" pins 7 & 8?
3a) Does your cable have a light in it that lights for a second or two when you connect the cable to the OBD II socket?
4) What sockets on your OBD II Socket are "Functional" (have metal sockets in them)?
5) Do you have 12V+ at either/both pins #1 & #16?

As example, on my 3/14/2007 build 328xi, the OBD II Socket is wired:
Pin #1: Ignition-Switched 12V+
Pin #16: Battery/UNswitched 12V+
Cable lights for ~ ONE second when plugged in (power OK)
Socket #8 has NO metal socket in the plastic plug hole
Pin #7 is K-line
Pin numbering: Pins #1 - #8 are Outboard column of pins with #1 at bottom; Pins #9 - #16 are Inboard column, Pin #16 at TOP.

BimmerGeeks cable has slide switch, which for 3/1/2007 & later E9x models should be in Right-hand position as viewed with pins UPward. If I understand correctly, vehicles built BEFORE 3/1/2007 require bridging of pins #7 & #8 by a switch in the cable.

On my 3/2007 build model, pin #7 is the K-line, and that is what you need to connect with to "light the circles" in INPA. So my SWAG is that your cable is NOT connecting to the BUS as YOUR vehicle OBD II Socket is wired.

George