[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Man your times are so good. My first time at the strip was like 14s. Can't wait to try again this week end!

Most of these 11s and 12s are auto's though right?

Yeah, auto awd on runflat all seasons. All my best 60fts i've spun the front tires just a little on launch.

Thats on e40 mhd ots tune and the rest of mods in sig.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

Yeah, auto awd on runflat all seasons. All my best 60fts i've spun the front tires just a little on launch.

Thats on e40 mhd ots tune and the rest of mods in sig.

Also on all seasons, Lxani LX 20s.

If I spin to much I'll consider putting some really sticky tires on my winter wheels in summer time haha and bring them with me at the drag lol.

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Also on all seasons, Lxani LX 20s.

If I spin to much I'll consider putting some really sticky tires on my winter wheels in summer time haha and bring them with me at the drag lol.

since you are 6MT if it starts to wheel hop off the line make sure u get out of it or else...

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.71 @ 119 / Instagram.com/silent11n54

[N54Society]

Originally Posted by Silent11N54

First pass of the season going 11.71 @ 119

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.71 @ 119 / Instagram.com/silent11n54

Sick run! Do you have downpipes now?

[suspenceful]

I went to my local 1/4 mile drag strip to get some baseline results before I start diving into maintenance and modifications!



It was my first time launching or racing one of these cars with an automatic transmission. Definitely a learning moment, especially after getting used to my 750whp manual 135i. Two completely difference experiences! It was hard to tell the 335i was even doing anything because the stock exhaust is so quiet :lol

First-ever pass down the strip netted me a 14.71 at 95mph. Not great. I foot-braked the car and wasn't sure how high the stall would let me go before starting to spin the rear tires.

For the second pass, I left off idle thinking that might help. It didn't. Lost a tenth to the 60ft, but seemed to go down the back half of the track faster. The car was a lot cooler on this run as it didn't heat-soak in the staging lanes like it did on for the first run.



I've been wanting to test the accuracy of my Dragy device, so I had it on during my first two runs. I was impressed to find that it was within 0.03s and hit the MPH on the head! Take a look at the Dragy results below compared to the actual slips and you'll see each measurement is almost spot on. It's an awesome little device for measuring all sorts of stuff. 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile, 0-60mph, 60-130mph, etc.



You can order one from Amazon or Burger Motorsports!

Since the Dragy was so accurate and the track was packed, I decided to hit a couple backroads on the way home instead of waiting in line for 1hr per pass. For my third attempt, I held the e-brake along with the foot brake to stall up the RPMs. Once I was ready to go, I released both brakes and it resulted in a much better launch.

Unfortunately, the tires spun on my first street attempt because the tires were cold. So I did a u-turn and went right back to the same spot and did a 4th run after warming the tires up. Same exact launching strategy and the tires hooked, resulting in a better 60ft and much better ET than my original 14.7.



All passes were done in sport mode, without manual shifting. I let the car automatically shift for me to keep things consistent. I probably could've squeezed some faster times out of it if I shifted earlier to keep the car in it's powerband. I can feel the boost tapering off up top being stock.

Best of 14.31 @ 97mph leaves a lot of room for improvement. Next step is some much needed maintenance. The car has 140k on it and has never had a walnut blast (to my knowledge), and it could use some spark plugs/coil packs.

Check out the video of my runs, you'll get an awesome POV-style view of me going down the track

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Also on all seasons, Lxani LX 20s.

If I spin to much I'll consider putting some really sticky tires on my winter wheels in summer time haha and bring them with me at the drag lol.

If you're going to that trouble just get some actual drag radials, otherwise not worth the effort.

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by N54Society

Sick run! Do you have downpipes now?

yeah i added downpipes, stg 2 LPFP and inlets , and a new custom E50 tune by WedgePerformance

im going out to the track tonight, will post results

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.71 @ 119 / Instagram.com/silent11n54

[Silent9n54]

Last weeks event at Mission Raceway

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.71 @ 119 / Instagram.com/silent11n54

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by Silent11N54

since you are 6MT if it starts to wheel hop off the line make sure u get out of it or else...

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.71 @ 119 / Instagram.com/silent11n54

By letting off the throttle a bit? I have a tedency to floor it to early I think and spin. In 1st gear basically I think I can barely floor it at all right?

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

By letting off the throttle a bit? I have a tedency to floor it to early I think and spin. In 1st gear basically I think I can barely floor it at all right?

spinning is one thing, wheel hop another

wheel hop breaks axles and diffs, if u feel it just lift and maybe try to air out the tires on the next pass

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.71 @ 119 / Instagram.com/silent11n54

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by Silent11N54

spinning is one thing, wheel hop another

wheel hop breaks axles and diffs, if u feel it just lift and maybe try to air out the tires on the next pass

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.71 @ 119 / Instagram.com/silent11n54

Oh you're right.

I don't think I've physically experienced it though. But wheel hop I would figure that everything feels like it's gonna shit the bed and shakes?

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by suspenceful

It was my first time launching or racing one of these cars with an automatic transmission. Definitely a learning moment, especially after getting used to my 750whp manual 135i. Two completely difference experiences! It was hard to tell the 335i was even doing anything because the stock exhaust is so quiet :lol

First-ever pass down the strip netted me a 14.71 at 95mph. Not great. I foot-braked the car and wasn't sure how high the stall would let me go before starting to spin the rear tires.

For the second pass, I left off idle thinking that might help. It didn't. Lost a tenth to the 60ft, but seemed to go down the back half of the track faster. The car was a lot cooler on this run as it didn't heat-soak in the staging lanes like it did on for the first run.

Since the Dragy was so accurate and the track was packed, I decided to hit a couple backroads on the way home instead of waiting in line for 1hr per pass. For my third attempt, I held the e-brake along with the foot brake to stall up the RPMs. Once I was ready to go, I released both brakes and it resulted in a much better launch.

Unfortunately, the tires spun on my first street attempt because the tires were cold. So I did a u-turn and went right back to the same spot and did a 4th run after warming the tires up. Same exact launching strategy and the tires hooked, resulting in a better 60ft and much better ET than my original 14.7.

All passes were done in sport mode, without manual shifting. I let the car automatically shift for me to keep things consistent. I probably could've squeezed some faster times out of it if I shifted earlier to keep the car in it's powerband. I can feel the boost tapering off up top being stock.

Best of 14.31 @ 97mph leaves a lot of room for improvement. Next step is some much needed maintenance. The car has 140k on it and has never had a walnut blast (to my knowledge), and it could use some spark plugs/coil packs.

Great post.

Its been my experience that the stock cars, even though they fall out of power up top, are still faster when shifting at redline. I think they just dont make enough power to make use of the next(longer) gear ratio properly. So its more about using every inch of that shorter gear ratio than keeping it in the power with stock tune. I was consistently slower every time when short shifting around 5.5k or 6k on stock tune. As soon as I let it shift at redline on its own again I found both better et and mph.

And the dragy results are awesome to see, I love mine, my experience is that it is dead accurate also with my last car. Can't wait to put it on the track against a real slip with the 335 here soon.

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

Great post.

Its been my experience that the stock cars, even though they fall out of power up top, are still faster when shifting at redline. I think they just dont make enough power to make use of the next(longer) gear ratio properly. So its more about using every inch of that shorter gear ratio than keeping it in the power with stock tune. I was consistently slower every time when short shifting around 5.5k or 6k on stock tune. As soon as I let it shift at redline on its own again I found both better et and mph.

And the dragy results are awesome to see, I love mine, my experience is that it is dead accurate also with my last car. Can't wait to put it on the track against a real slip with the 335 here soon.

dragy is deadly accurate... ran 11.99 on the track and dragy showed 11.98

[suspenceful]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

Great post.

Its been my experience that the stock cars, even though they fall out of power up top, are still faster when shifting at redline. I think they just dont make enough power to make use of the next(longer) gear ratio properly. So its more about using every inch of that shorter gear ratio than keeping it in the power with stock tune. I was consistently slower every time when short shifting around 5.5k or 6k on stock tune. As soon as I let it shift at redline on its own again I found both better et and mph.

And the dragy results are awesome to see, I love mine, my experience is that it is dead accurate also with my last car. Can't wait to put it on the track against a real slip with the 335 here soon.

Awesome, good to know! I might play around with shifting and see what happens.

I just walnut blasted my car and can't believe how bad the intake valves were. I've never seen anything like it. Hopefully this will help me improve my results next time. Check it out at the bottom of my build thread: https://www.e90post.com/forums/showt...php?p=24764054

Originally Posted by Silent11N54

dragy is deadly accurate... ran 11.99 on the track and dragy showed 11.98

Yeah, it's a pretty awesome device. I'm glad to see others here using it!

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Should I be able to do better? MHD Stage2+ E30. RWD 6 speed manual

[addictedtoboost]

Originally Posted by Silent11N54

dragy is deadly accurate... ran 11.99 on the track and dragy showed 11.98

Dang very nice, I am very temped to buy Draggy it seems like its worth the $149!

[addictedtoboost]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Should I be able to do better? MHD Stage2+ E30. RWD 6 speed manual

Yes your times should be much better than 13.2. I ran a 11.7 @ 119 on E40 map Mhd Stage 2+. I am automatic though.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by addictedtoboost

Yes your times should be much better than 13.2. I ran a 11.7 @ 119 on E40 map Mhd Stage 2+. I am automatic though.

I was just spinning and spinning in 1st gear in the left lane. I tried the right lane and spinning stopped a lot but still was.

I'm thinking of getting very sticky tires on my spare rims but they are 17x8. What would be best tire size and which tire to get?

[type-dRew]

Yes you should be significantly quicker than that.

You also have manual rear wheel drive, which is the worst combination for consistency or good results without a great tire on the back at least.

60ft isnt awful but its not good. Definitely seen worse. Where were you shifting?

Take any datalogs at the track? Be nice to see your conditions you were running in. What was the DA?

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

I was just spinning and spinning in 1st gear in the left lane. I tried the right lane and spinning stopped a lot but still was.

I'm thinking of getting very sticky tires on my spare rims but they are 17x8. What would be best tire size and which tire to get?

A drag radial, if you're going to bother, get a drag radial, anything else is a waste of money. Mickey Thompson radials, Nitto NT555R radials, Hoosiers, etc. Just dont get sticky street tires, its not worth the effort. And do something decently wide, 265 or better.

If you spin at all off the line, the run is basically hosed.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

Yes you should be significantly quicker than that.

You also have manual rear wheel drive, which is the worst combination for consistency or good results without a great tire on the back at least.

60ft isnt awful but its not good. Definitely seen worse. Where were you shifting?

Take any datalogs at the track? Be nice to see your conditions you were running in. What was the DA?



A drag radial, if you're going to bother, get a drag radial, anything else is a waste of money. Mickey Thompson radials, Nitto NT555R radials, Hoosiers, etc. Just dont get sticky street tires, its not worth the effort. And do something decently wide, 265 or better.

If you spin at all off the line, the run is basically hosed.

Honestly I had no more idea when to shift. I tried to control throttle, wouldn't really do. Tried to just shift soon as I started spinning, kinda did something. If not I eventually just let it go. Then the usual shifting at 5500rpm for the other gears.

No datalogs. What is DA?

One thing about drag radials, do you NEED to do a burnout before the run to like "activate" the tires?

And yeah, I would like to get the widest tire that will give good traction on 17x8.

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Honestly I had no more idea when to shift. I tried to control throttle, wouldn't really do. Tried to just shift soon as I started spinning, kinda did something. If not I eventually just let it go. Then the usual shifting at 5500rpm for the other gears.

No datalogs. What is DA?

One thing about drag radials, do you NEED to do a burnout before the run to like "activate" the tires?

And yeah, I would like to get the widest tire that will give good traction on 17x8.

DA = density altitude, you can look it up on dragtimes.com and also airdensityonline.com/tracks/ or you can download the TRC app to your phone it will tell you live then you can write it on your slip

DA is a measure of how much air there is, even if you are at sea level the air could measure as if you are 3000ft above it depending on conditions. Knowing the DA helps understand your racing conditions and what expectations you should have for the run.

If you told me you ran a 13.2 @ 110 in your car at 500ft DA, id say it needs work. If you say you did it at 8500ft DA, id say you were doing pretty good.

A burnout isnt required for drag radials, i would do one, but if not I would at least want them hot. So if you drove to the track on them and its a warm day, might not be required, but I would always at least spin my tires get dirt and debris off before pulling to the line.

And if they are brand new tires, either drive on them 40-50 miles before hand or do a real good burnout the first time out, they wont hook well until you get the first layer of rubber and manufacturing goo off.

I would try shifting close to 6k+, your gears are long enough as is. Your mph isn't great, so I feel like between the spinning and short shifting you were giving up some trap somewhere.

Always datalog your runs at the track, what better place to do it? Rarely on the street will you get a chance to run from a stop through every gear to near 120. Paints a good picture of how good the car is running and again can give us understanding of why you would be running slow like this. If the car is good on the logs we can rule it out and focus on driving and traction, if the log is bad then we can see what needs fixed.

We can also see your intake temps, if they were extremely high it explains the low trap. If not, driving does. Lots of reasons to log and know DA.

[NoGuru]

Hey Type Drew, looking forward to you coaching me at Lapeer or Miland soon.