[DieselDiner]

Originally Posted by Patrys@BimmerTech

We can do it for cars with factory installed 6NR...

Patryk, does this mean you are still waiting to see if you can purchase the coding for aftermarket installations, i.e. your package?

[beppeM3+123d]

My sw version is
mx003.004.031
Tx 003.004.031-003.004
At the moment all work also internet but no connected drive, only bmw services. What can i do to check if i have v43 or not?

[mkiv808]

I might buy a 2009 M3. What options should I make sure it has to make this retrofit as inexpensive as possible?

[Technic]

Originally Posted by mkiv808

I might buy a 2009 M3. What options should I make sure it has to make this retrofit as inexpensive as possible?

Just iDrive... this is a full Combox retrofit to the iDrive without any other options: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=537592

[beppeM3+123d]

anyone test v44 sw if problem has been solved?

[jwzimm]

Just picked up my car today and the new software works. I now have full apps and everything else is working perfectly for the first time since I picked the car up in August!!

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by jwzimm

Just picked up my car today and the new software works. I now have full apps and everything else is working perfectly for the first time since I picked the car up in August!!

Great!
I still can't understand why BMW released the software that required the FSC to enable the 6NR but did not provide dealers with tools to do it in cars with factory installed 6NR.

The FSC for the 6NR retrofit should be available in January...

[jwzimm]

I don't know either. That is the part that makes me the most angry. They were upset that the aftermarket was able to install the 6NR option so they rushed out a software update to disable that. Except in doing so they managed to disable all 6NR equipped vehicles including the ones that had it on originally.

Bottom line is that the software update should NEVER have been released for installation.

I am still planning to have a sit down with the dealership management over these issues. I have been in contact with BMWNA as well. I expect to receive some type of compensation for the 4 months I have gone with either a car that was not completely functional or a rental.

[KevinJ]

Why release a feature that is so hardwired to the vehicle order? Makes no sense. Then to disable the feature because aftermarket has it working?? Does BMW expect to have a aftermarket version? Where is it. Watch when the FSC codes come out in January we'll see if BMW has a retro-fit option. What will these codes do for BMW then? Will they let people retrofit? If not what do they care? Is the aftermarket stealing business from BMW for something they aren't retrofitting?

To begin with, why when I ordered my car that was built when 6NR was just becoming available that they refused to let me order it. Also, why when you buy Nav that cost as much as it does and on top of it get HK sound, you don't even get 6NF and 6NR. On top of that I bought 6FL and still no 6NR. Then I didn't get phone integration yet they install the wiring for 6NF???? Makes no sense.

Give me a BMW OEM 6NR retrofit and I'll buy one. If BMW doesn't have one, they can't be mad that others provide it. Anyway If you get NAV, it should have all these features to begin with.

Originally Posted by jwzimm

I don't know either. That is the part that makes me the most angry. They were upset that the aftermarket was able to install the 6NR option so they rushed out a software update to disable that. Except in doing so they managed to disable all 6NR equipped vehicles including the ones that had it on originally.

Bottom line is that the software update should NEVER have been released for installation.

I am still planning to have a sit down with the dealership management over these issues. I have been in contact with BMWNA as well. I expect to receive some type of compensation for the 4 months I have gone with either a car that was not completely functional or a rental.

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

The BMW 6NR retrofit is a fact!
Just the activation code is not available yet.

[Technic]

It seems that no base plate = no OEM retrofit, correct?

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by Technic

It seems that no base plate = no OEM retrofit, correct?

Correct, but some cars can have the basic base plate, which is not listed as the 6NF option in their specification and this will not work.
The BMW dealership will not install the 6NR if there is no 6NF option!

All the conditions mentioned in my previous post have to be fulfilled for a dealership to retrofit the 6NR.

[DieselDiner]

Patryk, are you still expecting the activation code (enabling your retrofit) to become available in January?

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by DieselDiner

Patryk, are you still expecting the activation code (enabling your retrofit) to become available in January?

Yes, I am.
But obviously we can't promise anything, so let's see.

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

On behalf of BimmerTech and my own I would like to take this opportunity to wish Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a wonderful New Year to all our friends, partners, customers and fellow members!

Thank you for all your support so far.
We are looking forward to bringing you even more existing products and services next year.

[KevinJ]

This is what I thought and was going down the 6NF route. If I can get 6NF coded then I have 6FL and the connections already there for 6NF.

So if 6NF is not on the original VO but added after, I assume you can still get the dealer to update. Any idea how much?

I'll assume through some method, some aftermarket folks will be able to offer upgrade codes.

Originally Posted by Patrys@BimmerTech

Correct, but some cars can have the basic base plate, which is not listed as the 6NF option in their specification and this will not work.
The BMW dealership will not install the 6NR if there is no 6NF option!

All the conditions mentioned in my previous post have to be fulfilled for a dealership to retrofit the 6NR.

[shawnsheridan]

Originally Posted by Patrys@BimmerTech

The BMW 6NR retrofit is a fact!
Just the activation code is not available yet.

@Patrys:

1) This does not list SA6VC Combox as one of the SA6NR requirements. Does that mean as part of the BMW SA6NR Retrofit they are adding SA6VC?

2) Why can / will BMW only retrofit post 03/11 F-Series Car builds as opposed to earlier builds going back from 9/10 when the SA6VC Combox was first introduced? What specifically makes these later builds upgradeable?

3) Can SA6NF Smartphone Integration be retrofitted?

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by shawnsheridan

@Patrys:

1) This does not list SA6VC Combox as one of the SA6NR requirements. Does that mean as part of the BMW SA6NR Retrofit they are adding SA6VC?

2) Why can / will BMW only retrofit post 03/11 F-Series Car builds as opposed to earlier builds going back from 9/10 when the SA6VC Combox was first introduced? What specifically makes these later builds upgradeable?

3) Can SA6NF Smartphone Integration be retrofitted?

1.They did not list the 6VC option in that specific document, but if you take the other options they mentioned + the production date which is required then it implies the 6VC is also required.

2.It's the same as they do with many other retrofits - in theory the 6NR can be retrofitted in cars produced before 03/11, but then if the car is updated by a dealership the 6NR will be gone. It's all about the BMW strategy and the software BMW dealers use to program vehicles.

3.Officially it can't, but even if we do it and BMW really limits the availability of the 6NR activation codes to cars equipped with the "required" options then it won't help you.

[shawnsheridan]

Patrys, thanks for the reply.

Originally Posted by Patrys@BimmerTech

2.It's the same as they do with many other retrofits - in theory the 6NR can be retrofitted in cars produced before 03/11, but then if the car is updated by a dealership the 6NR will be gone.

Interesting. In general, its hard for me to comprehend how a car officially retrofitted by BMW with 6NR would have the 6NR, or any other option on the Vehicle Order for that matter, wiped out later with a vehicle software update. One would think that the vehicle would retain all the Vehicle Order Options it had to start with. If this is a problem though, wouldn't retrofitted post 3/11 builds also run the same risk of having 6NR wiped out at a future date if the software is updated?

Apart from the above, if the vehicle software is the issue in MY 2011 builds prior to 03/11, I don't know why they wouldn't just offer as part of the official OEM 6NR Retrofit to also upgrade the vehicle software at the same time, prior to adding 6NR?

In my novice mind, there would seem to have to be some hardware difference before the 3/11 builds and after. While I understand BimmerTech can retrofit 6NR with any existing Combox, are you sure that since the Combox P/N changed beginning 3/11, that a requirement for this newer Combox isn't what is determining the official OEM retrofit requirement as opposed to the requirement for the newer vehicle software?

Originally Posted by Patrys@BimmerTech

2.It's all about the BMW strategy and the software BMW dealers use to program vehicles.

I'm confused. Are you referring to the vehicle software or the actual dealer programming software, and if the latter, did that change beginning with the 3/11 builds?

As for "strategy", IMHO, it isn't a very good one that allows for one but not the other of two identically optioned MY 2011 vehicles to be upgraded. Obviously though BMW would like to sell as many 6NR Retrofits as possible, and they have a "good reason" for not doing so in the earlier builds, but as the consumer it's difficult to accept without explanation.

Thankfully though, we have places like BimmerTech that can ease our pain.

Originally Posted by Patrys@BimmerTech

3.Officially it can't, but even if we do it and BMW really limits the availability of the 6NR activation codes to cars with equipped with the "required" options then it won't help you.

My thought here was that if 6NF could be retrofitted, combined with bringing the vehicle software to the post 3/11 version, an official OEM 6NR Retrofit could be performed.

6NF though frankly is another marketing failure as it was listed as "bluetooth smartphone integration" and I read of many individuals who did not order it thinking it was a Bluetooth accessory as nothing about its description indicates iPhone Video Out and Plugin functionality.

Please forgive my stupidity and rant, and thanks for all your knowledge.

[dandanio]

I do not know how credible that is, but I just received the following email from my good friend at the dealership:
"I talked to my friend in service, he made it sound that he can retrofit,
you just need to buy the activation code. I need to check the cost of
it."
So, dealers are aware of that, and I should know more early next week. I will keep you posted.

[Technic]

Originally Posted by dandanio

I do not know how credible that is, but I just received the following email from my good friend at the dealership:
"I talked to my friend in service, he made it sound that he can retrofit,
you just need to buy the activation code. I need to check the cost of
it."
So, dealers are aware of that, and I should know more early next week. I will keep you posted.

You are reposting BimmerTech on Dec 22nd.

[dandanio]

Originally Posted by Technic

You are reposting BimmerTech on Dec 22nd.

Right, but so far nobody even tried to get a price, nor we heard from a dealership, that in fact, they might even entertain such installs. Also, I might have found a way to buy an activation code. If I do, and the dealership refuses to retrofit, I will be taking to Partys (I don't have the smartphone integration option on my X3), so he can retrofit it WITHOUT one.