[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by feuer

Oh just wait, someone will jump and be all over this thread about how CSF is Wagner copy, with restrictive connections, inferior core made in China and how you should by something else instead

You beat me to it!

I said in another thread, only I know the best FMIC. Everyone else is just plain wrong. LOL

[Tiago@VRSF]

CSF makes quality products but I'd stay away from anything that re-uses the restrictive OEM connectors. We discontinued our 5" stepped with OEM connectors for a reason

[Jklad]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Thanks a ton for the kind words guys, we always appreciate when customers share their feedback with our products.

We've made significant improvements to our intercooler line since we first introduced our first intercooler for this platform almost a decade ago and we're proud of the fact that our intercoolers are being used on multiple record holding N54's.

You can say that again - I've been running my original design 7in vrsf which i purchased in 2012, I've put over 100k miles on it driven in salty Midwest winters, still looks and works great.

[hellokitty]

VRSF 7.5 race vs PSP 900?

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by hellokitty

VRSF 7.5 race vs PSP 900?

The BMS Race, PSP 900, and VRSF 7.5 race are all somewhat similar at the end of the day.

VRSF 7.5 race gets my vote and is what I use, I say this from everything I have seen/read.

I really like the PSP products especially their outlet pipe. I am sure you could ask Dusty @ PSP why his IC comes standard with a 2.5 up pipe(vs. vrsf 3'' standard) but website says a 3'' is available...but the stock outlet is 3''? Why would your default IC be 2.5 in -> 3'' out -> 2.5 outlet J pipe -> 3'' chargepipe? It makes no sense.

BMS Race seems good, I don't like that it is painted and I have seen overspray in pictures. I don't understand why it is 2.5'' in vs. 3''. I know this is not a huge deal as most turbos and outlet pipes end up at around 2.5'' but 3'' in and out is standard on most platforms for a high end IC.

At the end of the day all will likely perform about the same but the VRSF seems to be the best, with the most positive reviews, and it is used on the n54 cars that break and make the n54 records. Tiago is also super helpful. At the end of the day the IC is a heatsink/heat exchanger. Given the space you can only do so much. You don't want to be too restrictive and you also don't want to be so much less of a restriction you limit the ICs ability to cool. The VRSF seems to be the best of bost worlds. Obviously get what makes the most sense to you and your budget. I would suggest the VRSF race for reasons stated above.

While I have installed VRSf race parts on friend's cars(and they all performed flawlessly in fit and finish and most importantly execution aka powah) and I know a ton of people like their products, the race IC is the only VRSF part on my car. Just want to be clear that my review is not 'that' biased. I have not used the other ICs mentioned above. The VRSF race IC fits perfect and is a beast in appearance and function.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by hellokitty

VRSF 7.5 race vs PSP 900?

the VRSF race is one of our most popular intercoolers, stronly recommend it

[HB E90]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Thanks a ton for the kind words guys, we always appreciate when customers share their feedback with our products.

We've made significant improvements to our intercooler line since we first introduced our first intercooler for this platform almost a decade ago and we're proud of the fact that our intercoolers are being used on multiple record holding N54's.

Tiago, I recently got your CP and it went in without a hitch on my 1st Mod Thank You. Now I'm running Mhd 1+ E30 and want to upgrade the IC before it gets hot. I dont plan on doing DP's or FBO so would a 5" stepped or 7" be the better option for me? I plan on DIY so install difficulty is a factor too, but it would be nice to do a track day every now and then?? Hmm

[Tiago@VRSF]

I'd recommend the 7" if you're planning an occasional track day.

[srey]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

I'd recommend the 7" if you're planning an occasional track day.

What about pressure drop with stock turbos and no dps? I know that's been discussed often over the years, but how much more laggy would the 7" be than the 5"? Vs stock?

[Tiago@VRSF]

Each VRSF FMIC utilizes CFD modeled, precision cast end tanks in order to minimize pressure drop & response (lag). Our latest revision of our 5" stepped FMIC which now features our HD fin pack offers better intake temp control in comparison to the OEM FMIC without adding any noticeable lag or transient response.

Regardless of the downpipes you're running, a properly engineered/balanced internal and external fin pack along with a properly designed end tank is key to ensuring there is a proper balance of cooling vs restriction without sacrificing performance.

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Each VRSF FMIC utilizes CFD modeled, precision cast end tanks in order to minimize pressure drop & response (lag). Our latest revision of our 5" stepped FMIC which now features our HD fin pack offers better intake temp control in comparison to the OEM FMIC without adding any noticeable lag or transient response.

Regardless of the downpipes you're running, a properly engineered/balanced internal and external fin pack along with a properly designed end tank is key to ensuring there is a proper balance of cooling vs restriction without sacrificing performance.

Do you have a link the the HD pack 5inch? I don't see it on the site.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

Do you have a link the the HD pack 5inch? I don't see it on the site.

Not allowed to send links on here, i will pm it to you

[Nquick92]

so I have tried searching for an answer to this but can't find anything more recent then 2016. Want to get a FMIC and have been in love with the ER one for a while. love the looks and how it seamlessly flows all the way to the charge pipe. not the biggest fan of the price. I know that VRSF 7 HD is really good but not the biggest fan of the look. Plan on going FBO. Any thoughts or guidance would be appreciated

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Nquick92

so I have tried searching for an answer to this but can't find anything more recent then 2016. Want to get a FMIC and have been in love with the ER one for a while. love the looks and how it seamlessly flows all the way to the charge pipe. not the biggest fan of the price. I know that VRSF 7 HD is really good but not the biggest fan of the look. Plan on going FBO. Any thoughts or guidance would be appreciated

Both are quality intercoolers, you wont go wrong with either one.
Pick the one you like best and fits your budget

[type-dRew]

I was trying to decide between VRSF new HD 5" or the PSP 600ic due to pricing mainly and decided on the Pinnacle.

Looking forward to getting it, with the sale pricing(for what looks to be great quality) seems very worth it. $425 shipped is what I paid and pending final inspection after receiving it, seems like a great deal.

His 750 and 900 are also on sale, but I don't need anything that large for my goals.

https://fasterbypinnacle.com/product...c-intercooler/

[Tiago@VRSF]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

I was trying to decide between VRSF new HD 5" or the PSP 600ic due to pricing mainly and decided on the Pinnacle.

Looking forward to getting it, with the sale pricing(for what looks to be great quality) seems very worth it. $425 shipped is what I paid and pending final inspection after receiving it, seems like a great deal.

His 750 and 900 are also on sale, but I don't need anything that large for my goals.

https://fasterbypinnacle.com/product...c-intercooler/

The existing 5" and 7" FMIC's both now feature HD cores and are $399.99 shipped.

The intercooler posted uses sheet metal end tanks which will restrict flow and it's more expensive than the better/equal performing VRSF options.

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

The existing 5" and 7" FMIC's both now feature HD cores and are $399.99 shipped.

The intercooler posted uses sheet metal end tanks which will restrict flow and it's more expensive than the better/equal performing VRSF options.

Your intercoolers will have no more than a 3 degree gain in IAT on a full 18psi third to fourth gear pull? I haven't seen any VRSF logs like that.

I also wouldn't consider $25 more expensive enough to make worth mentioning as far as cost, especially considering it shipped for free and I paid no tax.

One of the other reasons I went with this intercooler is because you have for some reason decided to completely ignore my questions in one of your posts and my private message as well. So, I took that as what I could expect for customer service. Whereas PSP responded to me within an hour, on a Sunday, regarding his product.

I will be buying product from you in the future, so i hope that improves, as i'm unsure why you would ignore someone trying to spend money with you.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

Your intercoolers will have no more than a 3 degree gain in IAT on a full 18psi third to fourth gear pull? I haven't seen any VRSF logs like that.

I also wouldn't consider $25 more expensive enough to make worth mentioning as far as cost, especially considering it shipped for free and I paid no tax.

One of the other reasons I went with this intercooler is because you have for some reason decided to completely ignore my questions in one of your posts and my private message as well. So, I took that as what I could expect for customer service. Whereas PSP responded to me within an hour, on a Sunday, regarding his product.

I will be buying product from you in the future, so i hope that improves, as i'm unsure why you would ignore someone trying to spend money with you.

If you cannot get a fast response from any of the brands we offer, please contact me and i am more than happy to answer any question

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

If you cannot get a fast response from any of the brands we offer, please contact me and i am more than happy to answer any question

Nothing against you Mike, you were extremely fast to respond to me and answered all my questions.

It was the one question you directed to me asking directly at them to confirm that I was waiting for a response on for some time. Not a huge deal, my other IC is en route for friday.

When I need my inlets and Xi downpipes i'll get them off your website.

[hellokitty]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

Nothing against you Mike, you were extremely fast to respond to me and answered all my questions.

It was the one question you directed to me asking directly at them to confirm that I was waiting for a response on for some time. Not a huge deal, my other IC is en route for friday.

When I need my inlets and Xi downpipes i'll get them off your website.

Good stuff. Buy made in America when you can. I'm eyeballing the PSP 900 as well but too bad they are out of stock at the moment.

[dcorn]

Sorry if this was already covered in the thread:

I'm running MHD stage 1 right now on stock turbos and would go to 1+ with a new IC. Thinking of the VRSF 7" HD, which I'm sure is a lot more volume than the stock unit. Am I going to see longer spool times due to the increased volume in the piping?

And I may be harking back to my days running centrifugal superchargers, but is there any boost loss due to a larger IC or does the turbo automatically make up for it because it's wastegate controlled?

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by dcorn

Sorry if this was already covered in the thread:

I'm running MHD stage 1 right now on stock turbos and would go to 1+ with a new IC. Thinking of the VRSF 7" HD, which I'm sure is a lot more volume than the stock unit. Am I going to see longer spool times due to the increased volume in the piping?

And I may be harking back to my days running centrifugal superchargers, but is there any boost loss due to a larger IC or does the turbo automatically make up for it because it's wastegate controlled?

Negligible lag/spool times. The pressure loss is very small. All you'll find is performance benefits through and through.