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      02-08-2015, 08:59 PM   #1
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DIY - Replace Water Pump and T-stat, 335xi

I didn't find any "xi" specific DIY on this, so thought I would contribute to the community. This DIY cost me $525 in parts (waterpump, t-stat, aluminum bolts, and 1-gal of coolant). See the attached pdf file. N54, thermostat, E90, water pump.

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I was looking for a DIY on the 335xi before I did mine. However, I did do it a little different. I didn't touch anything under the hood except to add coolant when I was done. I also didn't remove the fan, any wheels (car was on ramps) or lining around the wheel. I did remove the steel belly pan to gain access to the back of the pump from under the car.
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I was looking for a DIY on the 335xi before I did mine. However, I did do it a little different. I didn't touch anything under the hood except to add coolant when I was done. I also didn't remove the fan, any wheels (car was on ramps) or lining around the wheel. I did remove the steel belly pan to gain access to the back of the pump from under the car.
Approx how long did it take you for your method? I have a a lift I can use so if it saved time and was easier to access I would do that
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      02-27-2015, 02:26 PM   #5
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I was looking for a DIY on the 335xi before I did mine. However, I did do it a little different. I didn't touch anything under the hood except to add coolant when I was done. I also didn't remove the fan, any wheels (car was on ramps) or lining around the wheel. I did remove the steel belly pan to gain access to the back of the pump from under the car.
Definitely need more info on this
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      02-27-2015, 06:29 PM   #6
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Definitely need more info on this
I followed everything in his PDF document starting at page 8. I put the car up on ramps instead of jack stands. I also removed the steel pan under the back of the engine for access to the back of the water pump (for removing/adding hose clamps). It is a tight squeeze getting the pump in and out between the subframe and the fan housing. But it certainly fit without removing all that stuff in the beginning of the DIY.

I'm not trying to take anything away from his DIY. He obviously spent time putting together a detailed DIY to help other forum members (much appreciated!!). He just spent some additional time removing other items to give himself better access to the water pump location.
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Guys just a heads up, if you do some searching you can get all the parts necessary for under $400. (and yes, new parts)
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Just did this on my 07 335i. I used the video on Bav Auto. The only thing I did different was take out the fan and inner cooler. This gave me more room to work and I was gonna drain the old anti- freeze any how.

I use Amsoil Coolant cut 50/50 with distilled water and 8oz of their coolant boost per gallon.
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Just did my '08 335xi. One tip I got gave me the extra room I needed. However, I had access to a lift at an auto hobby shop and that was all I needed.

Really easy actually. Disconnected the left side of the power steering and coolant hoses, dropped the sub-frame, supported it with a screw jack, that gave me all the room I needed. With a few universal joints attached to my ratchets and a long screw driver, was able to disconnect and replace all the parts in no time at all. Since it was my first time, took me 5 hours but, was well worth the time that saved me $1,000.00. Parts cost me $550.00 for the kit; BMW water pump, thermostat, bolts, BMW coolant, distilled water.
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Unless the Xi is vastly different, that is way more work than it really takes to do a water pump / Tstat on these motors.

I just did mine:
- Pull plastic belly pan, easy just a lot of unscrewing.
- Pull single nut that holds the passenger side power steering line, to move it out of the way. Cake
- Pull 4 nuts for sway bar - about a 1 minute job, let it swing down
- Remove hose clamps for all pumps. 6mm and have to move your arm around a bit. Remove two quick disconnects - need a flat head.
- Three torx holding the water pump; two are cake to get to, one is totally hidden. Needed a universal joint for that.
- Remove connectors to T-stat and water pump
- Install is reverse of removal.

There is no reason to touch the fan, FMIC or even open the hood (other than to refill the coolant). All easily done on ramps. The job is seriously one pain in the butt bolt and a couple hose clamps that are a pain. That's it.
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Unless the Xi is vastly different, that is way more work than it really takes to do a water pump / Tstat on these motors.
Yes, xi's are different than i's when it comes to the bottom side of the front of the car.
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THANK YOU

I want to say thank you and ask if I can post your pdf on other BMW sites. I dove into changing my dead water pump after watching the BavAuto video and researching on-line, but soon found out the 335XI is very different from the other 3-series "e90" cars. I followed your instructions, exactly, and all worked out great!

Also, the new OEM steel bolts that replace the aluminum bolts (holding the pump onto the block) are installed at 20.5 Nm according to a BMW tech. Note- I am not liable for this torque/installation, so beware...but I did install mine at this torque.

Thanks again.
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I want to say thank you and ask if I can post your pdf on other BMW sites. I dove into changing my dead water pump after watching the BavAuto video and researching on-line, but soon found out the 335XI is very different from the other 3-series "e90" cars. I followed your instructions, exactly, and all worked out great!

Also, the new OEM steel bolts that replace the aluminum bolts (holding the pump onto the block) are installed at 20.5 Nm according to a BMW tech. Note- I am not liable for this torque/installation, so beware...but I did install mine at this torque.

Thanks again.
Glad this helped. it's a year late but feel free to post around.

as for other comments about taking too much stuff off, perhaps. but when i work on a car, i like to have lots of room to work to make it a) easier and b) less likely to damage something when wiggling parts out of tight spots. to each their own.
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WOW!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING/CREATING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My waterpump or Tstat went out last week and I had been searching do a DIY and all I was able to find were the NON-Xi instructions which I soon found out (The hard way) this weekend that they "ARE" different. Not only that but I also found out that they sent me the wrong size aluminum water pump bolts too. so everything's on hold until the new bolts arrive but now with the help of your DIY I feel more confident in handling this task. And just like you - I rather take my time and take stuff off in order to give me enough "comfortable" room to work in. THANKS AGAIN!!!!
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I just had to do this as well. My car is Rwd and non turbo so it's a little bit easier but not by much. Took about 5-6 hours and my hands got nicked up pretty good. Only had a few thrown wrenches in the process and alot of cussing . Overall it's worth the savings but I see why the dealer charges so much for labor on this job. I could only imagine having a cv axle and intercooler in the way on top of everything else.
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Thank you so much ucdbiendog. It takes a lot of digging sometimes to find the Xi equivalent procedures for things. That damn sub-frame! One of these days ill stop being a pansy and finally drop it the next time I need to get in there.

Anyways, thanks again. Just did this on Saturday. 325xi N52 133K replaced pump and thermostat. Prep was about 1.5 hours (bottom coolant hose, sway bar, AC cooling line) Job took about 4 hours, then another 1-2 hours of testing, cleaning up my tools, putting the plastic shrouds back in. Here are my notes:

- Didnt remove the fan and I dont have an intercooler
- Did remove the passenger front wheel and shroud (this allowed me access to the hoses in the back and allowed me to align the hose clamps so i could tighten them from the wheelwell.
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- Also removed the lower hose to the reservoir, and the one coming from the bottom of the radiator, drivers side. (this hose also connects to the thermostat and once these three snap-type connectors are free the hose can be moved out of the way .. this is needed to bring the sway bar all the way down without putting pressure on that hose)
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- Did remove the reinforcement plate.. although it was not really necessary, it allowed me access to the hose clamp connecting to the back side of the pump.


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