[ingenieur]

Originally Posted by DaanBMW

anyone care to share how to do it via tool32 ?

For E8x and E9x
Select komb87.prg
Run job:
STEUERN_CBS_SC_CODIERUNG;0;0

[minaret]

In any event, at startup, on the gauge cluster, I see a yellow car-shaped symbol with the miles counting down (now shows 60). On the bottom of the i-drive screen it just displays Service Due. No warning chimes. On the CBS Service Menu on the i-drive screen, the oil change box is yellow.The other indicators (vehicle inspection, brake fluid, brake pads) are normal green.

[DaanBMW]

Originally Posted by ingenieur

For E8x and E9x
Select komb87.prg
Run job:
STEUERN_CBS_SC_CODIERUNG;0;0

tried it, doesn't seem to work. tried both as written (STEUERN_CBS_SC_CODIERUNG;0;0), and using only the arguments (0;0) - none work. what am I doing wrong ?

[psubmw]

I have a 2011 E90 and my friend has a 2007 E92. Will we be subject to this stupid issue?

I know there's no money to be made, but I'm surprised some sort of legal issue hasn't been brought up with BMW.

I find this to be absolutely ridiculous. How can BMW not disclose this at the time of sale? There is no mention anywhere, such as the owner's manual or window sticker, of the condition based oil change interval feature failing after a certain mileage is reached.

I cannot fathom why, in this day and age, a permanent software fix cannot and should not be provided free of charge by BMW. What if the windshield suddenly turned opaque at 186,000 miles? Or what if the radio was (unintentionally, I'm hoping) programmed to blare non-stop at 186,000 miles? It seems like BMW's solution would be to wear ear plugs.

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by psubmw

I have a 2011 E90 and my friend has a 2007 E92. Will we be subject to this stupid issue?

I know there's no money to be made, but I'm surprised some sort of legal issue hasn't been brought up with BMW.

I find this to be absolutely ridiculous. How can BMW not disclose this at the time of sale? There is no mention anywhere, such as the owner's manual or window sticker, of the condition based oil change interval feature failing after a certain mileage is reached.

I cannot fathom why, in this day and age, a permanent software fix cannot and should not be provided free of charge by BMW. What if the windshield suddenly turned opaque at 186,000 miles? Or what if the radio was (unintentionally, I'm hoping) programmed to blare non-stop at 186,000 miles? It seems like BMW's solution would be to wear ear plugs.

There is money to be made if you can make an app or some sort of bypass that you install, which fixes the problem.

[PA66400]

Originally Posted by mweisdorfer

There is money to be made if you can make an app or some sort of bypass that you install, which fixes the problem.

You both already know this, but BMW is not obligated to do anything to rectify something that is not regulated by safety or emission laws. My gripe about this particular software oversight is that they build a nanny function into the car, which stops working after less than a full car lifetime and then gives false and really annoying messages on start-up. And, the loyal owner can then pay them to have it disabled...... if the often uninformed local BMW store knows how to do the disable. Does not create brand loyalty in those (very few) owners who keep their BMW a very long time. Not sure Volvo would have adopted this flawed marketing strategy on their million mile cars.

Still waiting for my notification that the parts are in for my 335i Takata airbag to be replaced. Got the letter from BMW more than a year ago. Bought a F150, in the meantime, and love it's Detroit Symphony 5.0 V8, relative lack of complexity and room to work under the hood. I'm probably over and done with BMW.

[GogglesPisano]

Originally Posted by PA66400

And, the loyal owner can then pay them to have it disabled...... if the often uninformed local BMW store knows how to do the disable.

Or in my case, you can pay BMW to diagnose their own problem and then have them say too bad when you call them on it.

[PA66400]

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

Or in my case, you can pay BMW to diagnose their own problem and then have them say too bad when you call them on it.

When my fancy piezo-electric direct injectors all failed, I paid BMW to diagnose it and they told me that German cars are great, it is the lousy quality North American gasoline that killed my injectors (Shell V-power BTW). Ha!

My F150 will drive over curbs with barely a shudder. I'm the fastest guy leaving Wal-Mart. It runs on regular gas. Love it.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I'm pretty sure I posted the bulletin on this thread somewhere. Take that with you when you go to the dealership. Not all Service Advisors know about it.

Well, it finally hit my car. Last oil change it reset to 13k but since the oil level reported wrong I figured the OSZ was failing. So, this oil change I went ahead and replaced the sensor and low and behold the CBS reset to 19k.

Unfortunately I didn't watch it very long. I noticed today that my service indicator was back on. Thought it was because I need a state inspection. Then found that the oil service was at 1500 miles instead 19k. So, I dutifully reset it and it reset to 19k.

And within 5 minutes the fragging thing reset itself down to 1500 miles. I'm at 226,500 miles......

Is the note you talk about the one on the first page called "OCI Note.pdf" that I need when I talk to the dealership?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Well, it finally hit my car. Last oil change it reset to 13k but since the oil level reported wrong I figured the OSZ was failing. So, this oil change I went ahead and replaced the sensor and low and behold the CBS reset to 19k.

Unfortunately I didn't watch it very long. I noticed today that my service indicator was back on. Thought it was because I need a state inspection. Then found that the oil service was at 1500 miles instead 19k. So, I dutifully reset it and it reset to 19k.

And within 5 minutes the fragging thing reset itself down to 1500 miles. I'm at 226,500 miles......

Is the note you talk about the one on the first page called "OCI Note.pdf" that I need when I talk to the dealership?

Yes.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Yes.

Well, BMW of Roanoke has no idea of what to make of it. Said they would contact their BMW NA Rep to investigate the issue.

They had several techs looking at it resetting itself at one point.

They have my contact information and said they would be in touch.

[GogglesPisano]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Well, BMW of Roanoke has no idea of what to make of it. Said they would contact their BMW NA Rep to investigate the issue.

They had several techs looking at it resetting itself at one point.

They have my contact information and said they would be in touch.

I hope you have better success. BMW N/A wouldn't do a thing for me. They said it had too many miles, which is great since THEIR problem doesn't appear and can't be fixed until too many miles are on the car.

I hope they didn't charge you to have the techs check it out. I paid for BMW techs to check it several years ago, and BMW still wouldn't take care of it after I finally found out it was their issue. They even wanted me to buy a new ECU.

Just in case it isn't obvious, this 5 minute - no parts fix they wouldn't do has really soured me with the BMW brand (and I own 3 of them).

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

I hope you have better success. BMW N/A wouldn't do a thing for me. They said it had too many miles, which is great since THEIR problem doesn't appear and can't be fixed until too many miles are on the car.

I hope they didn't charge you to have the techs check it out. I paid for BMW techs to check it several years ago, and BMW still wouldn't take care of it after I finally found out it was their issue. They even wanted me to buy a new ECU.

Just in case it isn't obvious, this 5 minute - no parts fix they wouldn't do has really soured me with the BMW brand (and I own 3 of them).

I just want them to do the fix to turn it off. I can live with keeping track of the mileage as long as the OCZ keeps a correct level of the oil.

I might have to accelerate the planning of fixing my oil pan leak. It's only leaking a liter about every 10k miles.

I'm not happy about the situation, but I've owned several new vehicles and this is the least offensive issue I have run into. Had a Ford truck that had 4 recalls before it hit 20k miles. Had a Chevy truck that had 3 recalls and 5 TSB before 50k. I've got a Nissan Pathfinder that the radiator ruptured internally and allowed the coolant and the transmission fluid to mix (Known issue with Nissans) before 75k... and Nissan wouldn't do a thing about it. Cost me around $1,000 to replace the radiator, flush both systems multiple times to finally get it running correctly again. Now found the idiots used thin aluminum lines to the rear AC unit. Dirt and debris has worn holes into it and so now the whole vehicle has no air conditioning.

So, at 227k miles I've got a little issue of remembering to change the oil every 10k, so be it.

I love my car and want to drive it a long time...

[GogglesPisano]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

I might have to accelerate the planning of fixing my oil pan leak. It's only leaking a liter about every 10k miles.

Is it really all leak, or consumption? I've been consuming a bit less than that for well over 100k miles (at 361k now) with not really any increase in rate.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

Is it really all leak, or consumption? I've been consuming a bit less than that for well over 100k miles (at 361k now) with not really any increase in rate.

Yep, I've had the bottom panels off a couple times and it is definitely seepage around the pan.

Leaks also started around my VCG at the same time.

And my tail pipes are very clean, so I don't think it's consumption.

[GogglesPisano]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Yep, I've had the bottom panels off a couple times and it is definitely seepage around the pan.

For the xi model, I'd live with that much of a leak for quite a while before I'd tackle the oil pan gasket.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Yes.

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

For the xi model, I'd live with that much of a leak for quite a while before I'd tackle the oil pan gasket.

So I'm still waiting on the BMW of Roanoke dealership to get back to me, I ran across this post linked to a similar issue on E90Post general board and it is intriguing me.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=764082

Could the dread 300k kilometer limit or cycles be lurking in the argument referenced?

PS... never mind. Found the posters follow up article referencing the "300k" limit.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...833&highlight=

[glenb2]

This thread just saved me so much time and money. I have a 2008 535xi with 230k having the reset to 0 issue. So odd. Thanks!

[Greyfox]

Well, going to make a long story short... basically after being completely ignored by Roanoke BMW went a talked to Lynchburg BMW. So after a bit of work, they contacted BMW and found out yes, I was telling the truth about the issue.

I was going to have them program the car not to report the service over due. But then I thought about it. It tells you how far overdue and I think I can use that to keep track of how many miles has been since I changed the oil if it will reset to zero each time. It seems to do that just fine... just won't reset to 19k.

[GogglesPisano]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

I can use that to keep track of how many miles has been since I changed the oil if it will reset to zero each time.

I used it that way until 300k+ miles, but the dinging every time you start the car and the masking of other ! messages made me get rid of it.

I change the oil every 5k miles so it's pretty easy to keep track of without the CBS indicator.

[Greyfox]

Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

I used it that way until 300k+ miles, but the dinging every time you start the car and the masking of other ! messages made me get rid of it.

I change the oil every 5k miles so it's pretty easy to keep track of without the CBS indicator.

Interesting. Mine dings once and then goes completely away. Doesn't even give the attention triangle beside the "D" anymore.

Well, if it becomes a problem I'll see about coding it out.

[GogglesPisano]

Originally Posted by Greyfox

Interesting. Mine dings once and then goes completely away. Doesn't even give the attention triangle beside the "D" anymore.

Ours only dinged when you started the car, but it was every time you started the car. The attention triangle was on all the time.