[BSM n54iS]

what are we even doing anymore?

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by BdSM n54iS

what are we even doing anymore?

The whole planet has gone from zero to crazy in a few short years.

[Needbmwpartzz]

Originally Posted by jaye944

give it time.... this loophole will get closed

I think men should claim sexual discrimination !

Agreed....but then they'll argue damn statistics

[Needbmwpartzz]

Originally Posted by BdSM n54iS

what are we even doing anymore?

Living out the last days of western empire:

[jaye944]

most women can't even parallel park a car let alone drive one straight forward.

wife goes into a car park, must squeeze her car inbetween 2 others
despite there being PLENTY of spaces, 2 cars up

jeez SMH

[jaye944]

Whats the difference between your BMW and your wife

Your BMW won't let you sleep on the wet spot

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by jaye944

most women can't even parallel park a car let alone drive one straight forward.

wife goes into a car park, must squeeze her car inbetween 2 others
despite there being PLENTY of spaces, 2 cars up

jeez SMH

Not that this follows topic but this is the exact reason you marry someone intelligent and not just because they have a fat ass. Enjoy your marriage.

Originally Posted by jaye944

Whats the difference between your BMW and your wife

Your BMW won't let you sleep on the wet spot

My IQ level just dropped by reading this.

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

The whole planet has gone from zero to crazy in a few short years.

Not really we have always been crazy just use to be backlash for it not acceptance of every fucking idiotic thing, we are all special bushit.

[Maynard]

Ironic twist #27: Now that Trump is starting to really gut the available health insurance options, I'm hearing that patients are starting to 'marry' their buddies so they can put them on their workplace insurance plans (almost as simple as this 'sex change'). I doubt 'the Don' would want credit for any uptrends in that dept, but it gives me a chuckle.

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by Maynard

Ironic twist #27: Now that Trump is starting to really gut the available health insurance options, I'm hearing that patients are starting to 'marry' their buddies so they can put them on their workplace insurance plans (almost as simple as this 'sex change'). I doubt 'the Don' would want credit for any uptrends in that dept, but it gives me a chuckle.

ah, the age old commit fraud to save a buck scheme. yeah, trumps fault...

[Taythefool]

WP . Its funny because all it says he needs is a note from a practitioner. Could a been a buddy but not a pal. or Vice Versa

[Maynard]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

ah, the age old commit fraud to save a buck scheme. yeah, trumps fault...

In this case, commit fraud to save a friend's life, FWIW. I was just commenting upon the irony that a classic ultraconservative move (limiting subsidized health insurance) would unintentionally increase the number of same-sex marriages. I will not editorialize on my feelings about Goldie or his culpability, since this thread prefers to be apolitical.

[wntrsnowg]

Originally Posted by irishbimmer

Car insurance is a government mandated scam?
I'm interested in hearing how you came up with that and of course, if you have ever put in a claim on your insurance company.

Never had a claim. It is a legal requirement to have auto insurance, hence government mandated.

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

ah, the age old commit fraud to save a buck scheme. yeah, trumps fault...

Not sure if I would call it fraud. Nothing he did was criminal. He followed the rules set out by the government.

Insurance companies might as well eliminate their entire statistical analysis which they base rates on. Everyone will get the same rate.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

ah, the age old commit fraud to save a buck scheme. yeah, trumps fault...

Isnt that the core value taught in the Trump Business Ethics 101 class at Trump U?

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Not sure if I would call it fraud. Nothing he did was criminal. He followed the rules set out by the government.

Insurance companies might as well eliminate their entire statistical analysis which they base rates on. Everyone will get the same rate.

Haha, you want to see people REALLY complain? This, like healthcare, would raise rates for a majority of the population, only helping those that are high risk (Multiple excessive speeding, lots of accidents, DUIs, etc).

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Not sure if I would call it fraud. Nothing he did was criminal. He followed the rules set out by the government.

Insurance companies might as well eliminate their entire statistical analysis which they base rates on. Everyone will get the same rate.

When talking immigration it is considered fraud... not sure why this would be any different.

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

When talking immigration it is considered fraud... not sure why this would be any different.

Well we are not talking immigration.

"An Alberta man has legally changed his gender"

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Haha, you want to see people REALLY complain? This, like healthcare, would raise rates for a majority of the population, only helping those that are high risk (Multiple excessive speeding, lots of accidents, DUIs, etc).

Let me clarify. Insurance companies use statistics which include gender to determine what rate will be charged to a customer. Just because you change the M to an F or to an X on a piece of paper doesn't mean that your gender has changed nor has your driving habits. I can see insurance companies removing gender as part of their statistical analysis.

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Not sure if I would call it fraud. Nothing he did was criminal. He followed the rules set out by the government.

Insurance companies might as well eliminate their entire statistical analysis which they base rates on. Everyone will get the same rate.

not saying this guy committed fraud. i quoted the guy that said buddies will get "married" to save on health insurance. That is fraud.

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Isnt that the core value taught in the Trump Business Ethics 101 class at Trump U?

so since you think Trump does it, that makes it ok?

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Let me clarify. Insurance companies use statistics which include gender to determine what rate will be charged to a customer. Just because you change the M to an F or to an X on a piece of paper doesn't mean that your gender has changed nor has your driving habits. I can see insurance companies removing gender as part of their statistical analysis.

It's possible... more likely they will just use biological gender or it will just become statistically irrelevant by itself.

Historically, women have had lower premiums, not because they are safer drivers, but because they drive less. Men have usually been the ones that drive when they are together, and more women stay at home than men. That, however, has changed over the past decade or so and you are actually starting to see premiums for women be more than for men lately (case in point is me vs. my wife - same age, same driving history, similar credit ratings, etc and I pay slightly less at the same company)

And for the other comment, in the US that would be illegal to get married just to get around legislation. I would assume it is a very grey area to change gender just for insurance reasons, and a company might have a case if they wanted to pursue legal action... especially if you said you did it just for that reason.