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      08-10-2021, 04:44 AM   #89
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i would think that any fakra antenna splitter will be fine.
Thanks, have ordered these ones from Amazon, so hoping they'll do the job,...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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My TV retrofit is progressing. It is now wired in and successfully on the MOST network (all audio still working). I've also added option $601 to the car and coded the CIC settings appropriately.

I've split my two DAB antennas so they feed the DAB enabled CIC and the TV jointly.

Performing a channel search on the TV doesn’t find any channels.

DAB continues to work fine, but I am receiving the 'Aerial Inactive' message on all 3 antenna's under the service menu (I've only plugged into 1 and 2 for now).

According the ccfj1 in another post, seeing 'aerial inactive' can be due to:-
  • No power to TV
  • Incorrect MOST connections
  • Incorrect coding

I'm pretty sure the TV is now powered and the MOST network is working fine for all other devices and sound, so that only leaves TV coding.

I've attached a picture of what I've set in the CIC configuration to via NCSExpert. I've also just been back to the car to read out the current config to make sure my changes took effect, they did.

Edit: just to add my DVBT-T2 unit is dated 03/18, HW version 5.0.0 and SW 6.0.13, all of which I believe is the latest version.

Further Edit (Sunday morning): had a few thoughts overnight and did a bit more troubleshooting this morning,…

The car sits in my garage without the handbrake on, so I wondered if that might prevent the TV working (TV in motion not yet being enabled). Putting the handbrake on made no difference.

I decided to take the car out of the garage, thinking that might help with picking up a TV signal - I only live 4miles from the large Crystal Palace transmitter. Taking the car outside, I still get 0 channels on a channel search.

I took my DAB splitters out of the equation, plugging the 2 DAB antennas directly onto the TV antenna ports 1 and 2. Again, 0 channels found. I swapped the two antennas around (into the other port), and still no channels found.

Finally, if I pull the plug from the back of the TV module (with power, ground, FBAS and Most), I cannot search for channels in the TV from the iDrive and get no sound from other devices (as expected). Therefore, the TV module is definitely getting power and successfully on the Most network when plugged in.

I thought my factory DAB antenna would work for the TV DVB reception, but it completely fails to find any channels on a search. After a search completes, having found 0 channels, I just get a rotating circle on the screen as it tries to tune to a nonexistent channel.

I have an aftermarket antenna on order which I had planned to use in the 3rd antenna port. Perhaps if I try that in the first antenna port, it might pick up something?
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SUCCESS!

I'd ordered an Ampire ANT600 antenna that I was planning to use in the third pink antenna input on the TV module (for continual channel scanning). It arrived this morning so I've just tried plugging it into the first (green) antenna port on the TV module, performed a channel search and voila! 86 TV channels plus lots of radio channels. Phew!

I think the upshot of this is that the factory DAB antenna cannot be used to also feed a TV module.

Think I'm going to order a second Ampire to plug into the middle brown antenna port.

Just need to find somewhere hidden to fit the antenna's, as being a convertible using the windows or roof wouldn't be the best.
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Is that Inspector Clouseau???
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Is that Inspector Clouseau???
It sure is! "A Shot in the Dark", on Film4
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It sure is! "A Shot in the Dark", on Film4
I loved those movies as a kid, loved them...
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Hi everybody. I just bought a combox telematik bn2000 module for my E90. I do not know its features. For example, Can the TV function be activated with combox?
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Hi everybody. I just bought a combox telematik bn2000 module for my E90. I do not know its features. For example, Can the TV function be activated with combox?
A ComBox adds the following functionality to the CIC,...
  • Bluetooth audio streaming
  • Album Art on the iDrive display when playing music off the centre console USB
  • Office integration - syncing of contacts, text messages, email

For TV reception, your car must have a seperate TV module. The TV module connects to the CIC, and is nothing to do with the ComBox.
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^^ what he said...
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A ComBox adds the following functionality to the CIC,...
  • Bluetooth audio streaming
  • Album Art on the iDrive display when playing music off the centre console USB
  • Office integration - syncing of contacts, text messages, email

For TV reception, your car must have a seperate TV module. The TV module connects to the CIC, and is nothing to do with the ComBox.
Thank you for the information mate. Can i really display the videos with mp4 format via centre console usb? and can i see my e-mails?
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Thank you for the information mate. Can i really display the videos with mp4 format via centre console usb? and can i see my e-mails?
I'm wasn't talking about videos.

I have a 64Gb USB stick loaded with my complete audio music collection. So long as the audio files have embedded album cover art, then when playing music from the USB, the album cover appears on the iDrive display for that song

You can also place playlist files (.m3u) in the USB stick root directory, and these will be recognised and selectable in iDrive. The playlist files literally just contain a list of the songs in that playlist and their directory location on the USB.
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I'm wasn't talking about videos.

I have a 64Gb USB stick loaded with my complete audio music collection. So long as the audio files have embedded album cover art, then when playing music from the USB, the album cover appears on the iDrive display for that song

You can also place playlist files (.m3u) in the USB stick root directory, and these will be recognised and selectable in iDrive. The playlist files literally just contain a list of the songs in that playlist and their directory location on the USB.
If I remember correctly, we can watch vob files on DVD. Well, if I transfer a file with vob extension to usb, can't I watch it?
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Ok, All done.

The E series tv module works right away.

Pinouts for the E series tv module.

1 : Gnd
11 : +12v

4.: Video +
12: Shield
13: Video -

Plug and play. only the cic needs coding not the car.



Thanks for the info.
Would you be able to confirm the E series TV unit part number and connector types that you tested successfully?
I am in Australia and just retrofitted CIC Pro to my e92 CCC Pro with existing tv unit and having trouble getting tv to work on CIC.
Part# 65509130922 it might be the first gen 2006/07 FBAS on E9x.
It has a blue 20pin+MOST connector and an unused 18pin white connector.
I suspect it might be analogue only but then again analogue was switched off in 2013 here and this was still showing some stations on ccc.
Any info would be appreciated.
I was considering to get rid of it as it stops the CAS sleeping but then Im not sure how to terminate that MOST terminal inside the 20pin connector...
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That is the correct digital tv module.

I suspect that you have not repined the FBAS pins to the new cic configuration and that you have not selected the correct wert for the tv.

you will need to do 2 things.

1: default code the cic to the car (so that it knows it has a TV), this will also set the correct wert (FBAS input pins) on the cic.

2: you will need to repin the small black 12 pin connector in the base of the quadlock to the correct pins for cic.

you do not need to alter the blue plug at the tv end, just the plug in the quadlock. its 3x pins
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That is the correct digital tv module.

I suspect that you have not repined the FBAS pins to the new cic configuration and that you have not selected the correct wert for the tv.

you will need to do 2 things.

1: default code the cic to the car (so that it knows it has a TV), this will also set the correct wert (FBAS input pins) on the cic.

2: you will need to repin the small black 12 pin connector in the base of the quadlock to the correct pins for cic.

you do not need to alter the blue plug at the tv end, just the plug in the quadlock. its 3x pins
Thanks a lot for the good news!
Coding is done and fine, already have the stations sound.

So need to follow your below guide I suppose:

cic single plug:
18: video +
27: shield
28: video

Would you know by any chance which current pins on the cic connector need to be moved to above positions?
Also I suspect ccc has 5 wires ? so is it ok to leave the other 2 on the connector or need to be disconnected to avoid any issues?
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Thanks a lot for the good news!
Coding is done and fine, already have the stations sound.
Sound i carried over the fibre and not the FBAS, so as long s the fibre ring is good that will just work, (its why you see the station search etc). BTW you will need to do the station search from the TV and not the cic as the older units do not use the progress bar in the cic firmware.

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So need to follow your below guide I suppose:

cic single plug:
18: video +
27: shield
28: video
That sounds about right.

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Would you know by any chance which current pins on the cic connector need to be moved to above positions?
Off the rip of my head no, have a look in the TIS.

from the TIS

TV in on the ccc is

2: GND connected to pin 13 on tv now goes to cic
3: Red connected to pin 3 on tv
4: Green connected to pin 4 on tv now goes to cic
5: Blue connected to pin 5 on tv
11: shield connected to pin 12 on tv now goes to cic


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Also I suspect ccc has 5 wires ? so is it ok to leave the other 2 on the connector or need to be disconnected to avoid any issues?
i would say so... I only ever had 3 pins connected when i have done this retrofit.
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Do not change the pins in the blue TV plug mate, they are correct.

Its the cic side you have to change. the pinning between the ccc and cic is different NOT the TV module its the same for both ccc and cic.
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Do not change the pins in the blue TV plug mate, they are correct.

Its the cic side you have to change. the pinning between the ccc and cic is different NOT the TV module its the same for both ccc and cic.
The TV is ON

I was looking at a one piece cic connector pin numbering before hence confused.
When I took my cic connector out and checked it all made sense, I had to follow your multi connector pin numbers on the white connector.
Shield wire was already correct so only moved 2 pins. Easier than I thought initially

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perfect nice one mate

Bung up a pic if you get time
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perfect nice one mate

Bung up a pic if you get time
Thank you ccfj1

And also props to Aria335iN54 for making this fix super easy.
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