E90Post
 


Extreme Powerhouse
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Need help with n54 shopping list



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-16-2020, 12:52 PM   #1
Dukecity420
New Member
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: Ford Focus
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Albuquerque

iTrader: (0)

Need help with n54 shopping list

...

Last edited by Dukecity420; 07-21-2020 at 05:38 PM..
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2020, 01:08 PM   #2
ppointer
Major
United_States
733
Rep
1,081
Posts

Drives: '01 Z3M, '12 335is, '22 540i
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: FLL

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2012 BMW 335i  [5.25]
2012 BMW 335is  [5.00]
2008 Infiniti QX56  [0.00]
1967 Chevrolet Corv ...  [10.00]
2001 M Roadster  [10.00]
2022 BMW 540i  [0.75]
2009 528i  [9.50]
Great list. I would add the FCP coil and plug kit. I think N54 recommendation is 60k miles, and the kit is less than $250. Took me a couple of hours and I am slow.

Shocks? If there is some fluid seepage, I would be addressing those, too.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2020, 01:13 PM   #3
Emilime75
Colonel
1209
Rep
2,476
Posts

Drives: 2010 335i E92 LeMans Blue
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Merica!

iTrader: (1)

For starters, I'd recommend going OE/OEM for all gaskets and seals.

I don't think you need the OFHG bolts, original are reusable. Also not sure what those 2 bushing looking pieces are in the picture. You'll want to add the 2 o-rings for the oil cooler lines that bolt to the bottom of the OCG portion of the OFHG. There's a coolant hose directly behind the front bottom bolt of the OFHG - makes the OFHG job much easier if removed, but that flange is almost guaranteed to crumble upon removal. There's an aftermarket aluminum replacement that is highly recommended.

Edit: Just saw you already have the aluminum coolant hose flange in your cart.

As for the valve cover, that does not look like the right one(at least the photo is wrong). These are also known for developing hair line cracks that are often difficult to see, but leak oil. Replacing the cover, with new gasket, both with OEM is recommended. The valve covers also function as part of the PCV system and the passages get gunked up, another reason to replace. Lastly, the bolts are aluminum and should be replaced. The OEM N54 valve cover KIT from FCP should include everything needed.

Not really sure what's going on with the intake/charge piping based on that report, but I don't think you need replacement turbo outlets.

Personally, if I was in need of tension/control arm bushings, I'd be looking at the TRW/M3 kit from FCP. Add a little extra camber and performance while replacing the bad components. Same with the shocks/struts, you may do some research and find the stock MSport suspension isn't all that great.

What's the gasket maker for?

Last edited by Emilime75; 07-16-2020 at 01:31 PM..
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2020, 03:09 PM   #4
Dukecity420
New Member
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: Ford Focus
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Albuquerque

iTrader: (0)

Awesome thanks for all the help I really appreciate it! I've added the m3 control arm kit, valve cover, ignition service kit, and o rings.

I was planning on getting coilovers within a year because its first on the list of what I aant to do so I think I'm gonna stick with the basic ones for now to save up for a good set later.

Also in regards to the charge pipe/intake issue.
It has a metal charge pipe for the one that has the blow off valve on it so thats fine.

But apparently from what I remember them telling me theres a second plastic chargepipe/intake that not secure and is is slowly melting onto the alternator they reccomend i replace with a metal one.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2020, 03:12 PM   #5
Dukecity420
New Member
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: Ford Focus
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Albuquerque

iTrader: (0)

I think I read online that you need silicon for resealing gaskets
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2020, 05:40 PM   #6
Emilime75
Colonel
1209
Rep
2,476
Posts

Drives: 2010 335i E92 LeMans Blue
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Merica!

iTrader: (1)

Sorry to say, but after looking through the photos, that car looks pretty boogered up.

You may want to hold off on the shocks/struts and save that money towards your coilovers. A little seepage of oil, while obviously it shouldn't, is still fine, most likely. If the car feels fine while driving, I wouldn't spend the money twice.

As for the "charge pipe", and melting into the alt, that is sounding more like the front inlet into the front turbo. The inlet is what allows filtered air into the turbo intake, the charge pipe is compressed air after the intercooler and before the throttle body. It goes turbo outlets/intercooler inlet/intercooler outlet/charge pipe lower/charge pipe upper(what your blow off valve is attached to)/throttle body. It does have a rubbery plastic lower section that connects to the intercooler outlet. The photos look like that connection is screwy and needs attention, but as to what is making contact with the alternator...not sure from the photos and report.

Are you getting a CEL? Have you read codes? It looks like you should have a 30ff code based on that lower to upper chargepipe connection. Is it glued on?

With catless downpipes, the car should be tuned(hopefully). What time is on it? JB4, MHD, Cobb???

As for the gasket maker, that's debatable. Some on this forum swear by it, others don't. I'm of the latter.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2020, 06:07 PM   #7
ewicky
Lieutenant
United_States
204
Rep
525
Posts

Drives: '07 335xi 4D AT
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (0)

I would say go with aftermarket for the "hot side charge pipe" in your cart, also known as turbo outlets. The stock BMW one is an airflow bottleneck for tuning.
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2020, 07:34 PM   #8
Dukecity420
New Member
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: Ford Focus
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Albuquerque

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emilime75 View Post
Sorry to say, but after looking through the photos, that car looks pretty boogered up.

You may want to hold off on the shocks/struts and save that money towards your coilovers. A little seepage of oil, while obviously it shouldn't, is still fine, most likely. If the car feels fine while driving, I wouldn't spend the money twice.

As for the "charge pipe", and melting into the alt, that is sounding more like the front inlet into the front turbo. The inlet is what allows filtered air into the turbo intake, the charge pipe is compressed air after the intercooler and before the throttle body. It goes turbo outlets/intercooler inlet/intercooler outlet/charge pipe lower/charge pipe upper(what your blow off valve is attached to)/throttle body. It does have a rubbery plastic lower section that connects to the intercooler outlet. The photos look like that connection is screwy and needs attention, but as to what is making contact with the alternator...not sure from the photos and report.

Are you getting a CEL? Have you read codes? It looks like you should have a 30ff code based on that lower to upper chargepipe connection. Is it glued on?

With catless downpipes, the car should be tuned(hopefully). What time is on it? JB4, MHD, Cobb???

As for the gasket maker, that's debatable. Some on this forum swear by it, others don't. I'm of the latter.
Sweet I really appreciate your help i added a vargas aluminum outlet pipe set and am gonna order a vsrf inlet set from extreme power. Also I still need to get the wait for the car to get shipped here so I can't check the codes myself.

They told me the only codes that showed were for the catless downpipes and it doesn't have a tune on it. Why does it need a tune though? Should I put mhd on before I drive it?
Appreciate 0
      07-16-2020, 07:37 PM   #9
Dukecity420
New Member
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: Ford Focus
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Albuquerque

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ewicky View Post
I would say go with aftermarket for the "hot side charge pipe" in your cart, also known as turbo outlets. The stock BMW one is an airflow bottleneck for tuning.
Thanks man took your advice I appreciate it!
Appreciate 0
      07-17-2020, 02:15 PM   #10
Saif2018
Brigadier General
972
Rep
3,219
Posts

Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Front and Rear crank seals, main Sump gasket, those also commonly leak. Plastic stock Charge pipe can crack, upgrade to a metal one.
Appreciate 0
      07-17-2020, 07:17 PM   #11
mweisdorfer
Major General
mweisdorfer's Avatar
United_States
1900
Rep
6,968
Posts

Drives: 2007 Black/Black 335i e90
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Holly, MI

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 BMW E90 335i  [0.00]
2008 bmw x5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dukecity420 View Post
Whats up n54 crew I just bought a 2013 335is convertible with 50k miles that came with a charge pipe, blowoff valve, and catless downpipes. I had a ppi done and it has some issues that I'm planning on getting fixed.

Could someone help me put together a shopping list of parts, fluids, and hardware ill need. Also anything you would reccomend doing to improve reliability or save on future labor?

I'm thinking about ordering through fcp euro since they offer lifetime replacements on everything. Would appreciate the help cuz I don't know much about cars.

Here's a link to pictures and videos of the issues https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...8M?usp=sharing

Here's the issues they reported and my current shopping list
Attachment 2365293

Attachment 2365294

Attachment 2365295

Attachment 2365296

Attachment 2365297

Attachment 2365298

Attachment 2365299
Get Bilstein B8's instead of what you have. You will thank me later. They will fit your car. You do not need the B12 kit for it. However, it's a better idea to go this route if you do decide you want springs too. It will lower the car about 1/2" from the m-sport suspension. If you are concerned about the drop in the rear, Dinan makes a set of springs that will only lower the front and not the rear.
Appreciate 0
      07-18-2020, 03:29 PM   #12
Dukecity420
New Member
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: Ford Focus
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Albuquerque

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mweisdorfer View Post
Get Bilstein B8's instead of what you have. You will thank me later. They will fit your car. You do not need the B12 kit for it. However, it's a better idea to go this route if you do decide you want springs too. It will lower the car about 1/2" from the m-sport suspension. If you are concerned about the drop in the rear, Dinan makes a set of springs that will only lower the front and not the rear.
Yeah I was looking at those but im worried I won't like have the car lowered because my brothers car has lowering springs and his car always scrapes on speedboats so I'm gonna wait 4 months and buy some st or kw coilovers still though it would be nice to have the B8's just for peace of mind having the lifetime warranty.
Appreciate 0
      07-18-2020, 03:33 PM   #13
Dukecity420
New Member
0
Rep
21
Posts

Drives: Ford Focus
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Albuquerque

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saif2018 View Post
Front and Rear crank seals, main Sump gasket, those also commonly leak. Plastic stock Charge pipe can crack, upgrade to a metal one.
Cool thanks for the advice ill add the seals I'm definitely trying to avoid any leaks for as long as I can once I start driving it haha. Also its coming with metal charge pipes so that was a bonus.
Appreciate 0
      07-18-2020, 03:36 PM   #14
Emilime75
Colonel
1209
Rep
2,476
Posts

Drives: 2010 335i E92 LeMans Blue
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Merica!

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dukecity420 View Post
Cool thanks for the advice ill add the seals I'm definitely trying to avoid any leaks for as long as I can once I start driving it haha. Also its coming with metal charge pipes so that was a bonus.
Uhmmm, do you know what's involved in replacing those? Definetly hold off until you look into it, unless you like pulling transmissions just for the hell of it.
There's also a very specific procedure for replacing the front, and I wouldn't recommend touching it unless it's actually leaking.
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2020, 02:28 AM   #15
Saif2018
Brigadier General
972
Rep
3,219
Posts

Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emilime75 View Post
Uhmmm, do you know what's involved in replacing those? Definetly hold off until you look into it, unless you like pulling transmissions just for the hell of it.
There's also a very specific procedure for replacing the front, and I wouldn't recommend touching it unless it's actually leaking.
Wouldn't recommend diy replacing crank seals, but they do leak, so if he's planning on reducing leak points it's worth getting them done, by someone who knows what they are are doing of course.
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2020, 07:01 AM   #16
Jeef
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
387
Rep
1,945
Posts

Drives: AW E92 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (6)

Dont use gasket maker. you'll thank us later.

just buy the OEM gaskets and replace them. Remove that gasket maker from the cart!
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2020, 07:28 AM   #17
mweisdorfer
Major General
mweisdorfer's Avatar
United_States
1900
Rep
6,968
Posts

Drives: 2007 Black/Black 335i e90
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Holly, MI

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 BMW E90 335i  [0.00]
2008 bmw x5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saif2018 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emilime75 View Post
Uhmmm, do you know what's involved in replacing those? Definetly hold off until you look into it, unless you like pulling transmissions just for the hell of it.
There's also a very specific procedure for replacing the front, and I wouldn't recommend touching it unless it's actually leaking.
Wouldn't recommend diy replacing crank seals, but they do leak, so if he's planning on reducing leak points it's worth getting them done, by someone who knows what they are are doing of course.
I would leave the crank seal alone, unless it's leaking. If you want insurance, buy the aluminum cover that goes over the crank seal.
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2020, 07:30 AM   #18
mweisdorfer
Major General
mweisdorfer's Avatar
United_States
1900
Rep
6,968
Posts

Drives: 2007 Black/Black 335i e90
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Holly, MI

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 BMW E90 335i  [0.00]
2008 bmw x5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeef View Post
Dont use gasket maker. you'll thank us later.

just buy the OEM gaskets and replace them. Remove that gasket maker from the cart!
Not true......

Ultra Black in combination with an OEM gasket will ABSOLUTELY increase the longevity of the seal.

You just need to sandwich the OEM gasket in-between two beads of Ultra Black
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2020, 07:45 AM   #19
Jeef
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
387
Rep
1,945
Posts

Drives: AW E92 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (6)

no need for it. don't see one. makes a mess that you need to clean up later. new gasket and be done with it.

Seen a lot of shitty gasket maker jobs that need to be redone lol.

not sure what is not true. you said something completely different than what I mentioned.
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2020, 07:54 AM   #20
mweisdorfer
Major General
mweisdorfer's Avatar
United_States
1900
Rep
6,968
Posts

Drives: 2007 Black/Black 335i e90
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Holly, MI

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 BMW E90 335i  [0.00]
2008 bmw x5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeef View Post
no need for it. don't see one. makes a mess that you need to clean up later. new gasket and be done with it.

Seen a lot of shitty gasket maker jobs that need to be redone lol.

not sure what is not true. you said something completely different than what I mentioned.
If it's done correctly, using Ultra Black w/ an OEM gasket adds time/ miles to the next time you will eventually change out the gasket.

Clean up of Ultra Black is not a big deal
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2020, 08:04 AM   #21
Jeef
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
387
Rep
1,945
Posts

Drives: AW E92 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego, CA

iTrader: (6)

how much longer does it last?
Appreciate 0
      07-19-2020, 08:35 AM   #22
Emilime75
Colonel
1209
Rep
2,476
Posts

Drives: 2010 335i E92 LeMans Blue
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Merica!

iTrader: (1)

...and what is "done correctly"?
Appreciate 1
Jeef386.50
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:21 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST