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Has anyone contacted BMW regarding 29.2 and lag?
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10-26-2008, 06:19 PM | #2531 | |
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10-26-2008, 09:29 PM | #2532 |
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My guess is that the early versions of the turbos will be plagued by a recurrent problem with the wastegate actuators. Given the labor difficulty in turbo r&r to set the actuators, it could be wiser in some cases to have the turbos replaced with version 3 or 4.
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10-26-2008, 11:26 PM | #2534 | |
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I am based in the USA, and there has been speculation that v31.x does not include a DME update for us. Any truth to that? Can you give me a concise list of verified facts that, given the situation I described, can help my dealer fix my Lag? |
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10-27-2008, 02:36 AM | #2535 |
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i tried this, i bent the clips (at least the 4 i can see) and they won't even hold the lines anymore. car still has lag.
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10-27-2008, 02:53 AM | #2536 | |
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1. Do you have software v31.1 or above? 2. Are your wastegates O.K.? Unrestricted vacuum hoses are only the last point on the list, and even then, v31.1 is still discernibly different than pre-29.2. It's certainly not a cure-all. |
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10-27-2008, 03:12 AM | #2537 |
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10-27-2008, 03:50 AM | #2538 |
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To be honest, as long as the wastegates and actuators especially are replaced with the latest versions, the original specification turbos will be absolutely fine. The problem has always been the wastegates - now that the latest iterations are theoretically problem free, there should be no further issue.
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10-27-2008, 03:56 AM | #2539 | |
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I would strongly suggest you have the software updated to V31.1. And you need to check whether your dealer has setup the actuators correctly. Don't just assume that they have, as from my own personal experience, it appears that most cars which have been remedied have been done using incorrectly calibrated machines. The only verification I can give is the practical and realworld result of driving two cars, one which is my own and one other customer's, and in my view (and in the view of the other techs), V31.1 and accurately calibrated wastegate actuators results in a car with no lag. I have already written up the process by which we remedied the problem on my car - there is enough information for you to go to your dealer and advise them of the solution.
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10-27-2008, 08:42 AM | #2541 |
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I'm still just hung up on the fact that some pretty reliable sources said that V31.x does not have a DME update, at least in the US, for the N54. It is perplexing then that it could have any sort of positive or negative impact on our cars.
Also, the only experiences we've heard from U.S. customers (there were 2 or 3 a few pages back) were that they felt no improvement with V31.x, if I remember correctly. |
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10-27-2008, 09:34 AM | #2542 | |
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I truly appreciate your contribution to this thread, and I hope you're right, but I don't want to stand face-to-face with my SA for the umteenth time, and tell him those seemingly implausible facts without some proof. I'm very angry about the problem, but I'm not trying to look like a fool or get confrontational with my reps just because someone online makes yet another suggestion. If you really can say that a 29.2 car with The Lag was fixed this way, and I can provide the PUMA number and perhaps even the name of a contact at BMW who is familiar with the calibration problem, it would give me a lot more credibility at the dealer. As one of the "original six" of this thread, if MY car (which has had just about everything thrown at it with no resolution for the past 5 months) is fixed by your solution, then it would go a long way toward putting this whole thread to rest. |
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10-27-2008, 10:10 AM | #2543 | |
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E92 Fan, I am also one of the "original six"...hell, probably the original two, and am in basically the same boat as iScream, except my dealer won't even try anything to remedy it. I do have another question for you. You said a few posts back that this procedure "even fixed the exhaust sound a bit" or something to that extent. Well, if this were a true fix, why would it not COMPLETELY revert the exhaust to sounding proper again instead of crappy and loud? That has me leary of the true quality of this as a viable sollution. Anyway, I have service scheduled this week and am looking to find out more definitive info before then, so I know whether to really push for the update. I only want to bug them (and waste my time) if it is a real fix. Thanks! |
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10-27-2008, 11:51 AM | #2544 | ||
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Now I did not say your dealership screwed up the install - maybe they did it right, maybe they didn't. What I have suggested is that you verify with them that the vacuum line machine they use to setup the actuators is calibrated correctly, as my experience with machines here in the UK suggest that the majority of them (at least in the UK) were NOT calibrated correctly. Even the machine at BMW UK was out of calibration, and we had a delay in waiting for a new machine to be shipped from BMW Germany. Quote:
BMWNA, or your dealer, should contact Philip Neal, Regional Technical Director, at BMW UK (+44 1344 426565) who will be able to confirm the vacuum line machine calibration issue. I wish you the best of luck! To everyone else.. I have provided the information in my posts so that it might help you US members find some resolution to the problems that you have been facing. I have had numerous problems with my car, mostly engine related, and through a long process of investigation and repair, including having the engine out, those issues have been resolved fully. In no particular order, I have had fuel pump replaced, new ignition coils and a complete set of injectors, new turbos, new actuators and wastegates, new ECU... I have been as angry as you appear to be, and I took a proactive approach in trying to find a fix, involving people from BMW Germany (who flew over to see me) and BMW UK. We found the fix for all the different problems, and applied those remedies to other cars that had similar issues. Now whether some of you consider my posts to be implausible facts or not is entirely down to you - I don't find the need to justify any of the posts that I make, as I make them to be helpful and not for any other reason. I find it amazing that having posted my own findings, which I don't force upon anybody else, that I get a barrage of critical PMs accusing me firstly of working for BMW directly, or as one member suggested, making up a solution so that it would shut everybody up. You can all take the information how you like, it doesn't really matter. However, I will not be posting any more information up here because I am sick to death of the trolls and haters on this forum that have nothing better to do than to criticise and accuse. For those genuine people who want help, PM me and I will do what I can. Otherwise, keep trolling...
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10-27-2008, 11:59 AM | #2545 | |
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If I understand everything correctly, the correct calibration of wastegates plus 31.1 will fix the lag, at least in the UK. Whether this will work in the US is still not verified, but is probably the best shot we have had in a long time. I think the more difficult issue will be the correct calibration of the wastegate actuators than getting the program 31.1 installed. Good luck everyone!
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What might E89X-08-09-520 stand for? Car is manufactured in september 30 2008. Thx alot.
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