H&R (rear) Sway

SROC3 · 04-16-2007, 12:26 AM

So I hit the canyons in my 335i today and man.......big, big difference with the H&R (rear) sway installed. Turn-in is definitely more crisp, sharp and less plowing on the front. What does have to be taken into consideration though is that since there is more load resistance, when it does give out, it does so much more noticeably as well - but the "give" is communicated much better to the driver, thus easier to control.

I originally thought of getting both the front and the rear sways. I strongly suggest to anyone that prior to getting both (unless you track regularly) you should install the rear one first and get "acquainted" with the car's handling, then get the front if you feel the need to do so. I may very well later on, but for now it feels just right.

It's got that "point-and-shoot" feel to it. :rocks:

MAD props to Technik/AutoTalent (SoCal-Marina Del Rey) for the incredible install. They not only did a fantastic job, but also were very patient in answering all my concerns and questions. Very good pricing and I HIGHLY recommend them.

HRC · 04-16-2007, 12:50 AM

Yes, Rear bar is the one!!

Danny

wj4 · 04-16-2007, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SROC3

So I hit the canyons in my 335i today and man.......big, big difference with the H&R (rear) sway installed. Turn-in is definitely more crisp, sharp and less plowing on the front. What does have to be taken into consideration though is that since there is more load resistance, when it does give out, it does so much more noticeably as well - but the "give" is communicated much better to the driver, thus easier to control.

I originally thought of getting both the front and the rear sways. I strongly suggest to anyone that prior to getting both (unless you track regularly) you should install the rear one first and get "acquainted" with the car's handling, then get the front if you feel the need to do so. I may very well later on, but for now it feels just right.

It's got that "point-and-shoot" feel to it. :rocks:

MAD props to Technik/AutoTalent (SoCal-Marina Del Rey) for the incredible install. They not only did a fantastic job, but also were very patient in answering most concerns and questions. Very good pricing and I HIGHLY recommend them.

How much did you paid including install? I'm asking because I'm in the L.A. area and want to get one done as well. Thanks!

HRC · 04-16-2007, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wj4

How much did you paid including install? I'm asking because I'm in the L.A. area and want to get one done as well. Thanks!

Call DTM! I wish I was in LA just for the great install prices!!

Danny

Fraggy · 04-16-2007, 09:25 AM

I have the rear only and love it!

ScBlacksunshine · 04-16-2007, 11:54 AM

FTW rear only :rocks:

HRC · 04-16-2007, 12:10 PM

I'm glad more people are trying and loving the rear only sway bar. Not to long ago, I felt like I needed a flame suit when I suggested this! Nice not to feel alone! :rocks:

Danny

SROC3 · 04-16-2007, 02:36 PM

LOL......hehe. its really a matter of "feel" at the end of the day.

Note that my entire set-up is bone-stock. If you have larger wheels and stickier tires, I suggest getting both - just to balance everything out.

SV Concepts III · 04-16-2007, 02:52 PM

That's great to hear, we are just about to send one out to another fellow fanatic. Rears make a great improvement on turn in as you noted, I'd love to get a ride to see the difference. Hopefully we can get a local guy to install one

AM335 · 04-16-2007, 09:16 PM

Is the rear bar install a DIY on the E90 335i? Thanks.

Fraggy · 04-16-2007, 09:22 PM

I wouldnt imagine so, its pretty intensive, something about dropping the subframe, Im sure others will elaborate further. I got mine for $425 installed.

S4to335 · 04-16-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraggy

I wouldnt imagine so, its pretty intensive, something about dropping the subframe, Im sure others will elaborate further. I got mine for $425 installed.

Dropping subframe to install a sway bar? I guess its possible...I have installed tons of sway bars on Audis...never had to drop a subframe to do those...If you drop the subframe..I would think a alignment would be required. Maybe that is why it cost that much.

wj4 · 04-16-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraggy

I wouldnt imagine so, its pretty intensive, something about dropping the subframe, Im sure others will elaborate further. I got mine for $425 installed.

Are you serious? For a rear sway bar? This is normally a simple install in most cars I've seen.

kujo · 04-16-2007, 10:41 PM

rear subframe drop IS needed as stated.
That's why mine's not getting done until my LSD goes in.

kj

just4kickz · 04-16-2007, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by S4to335

Dropping subframe to install a sway bar? I guess its possible...I have installed tons of sway bars on Audis...never had to drop a subframe to do those...If you drop the subframe..I would think a alignment would be required. Maybe that is why it cost that much.

i think everybody who has at least the rear one has confirmed that droping the subframe is needed.

I got mine all done for 290$... it was 240 for install... 50 bucks for alignment--alignment was cheap cause i said i had no money left... and i didnt... lol.

danny... if you ever decide on getting those sways... get it done @ Auto Innovations. It's a trip for you... going down to Milpitas... probably 30-35mins? but it'll be worth it.

HRC · 04-16-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by just4kickz

i think everybody who has at least the rear one has confirmed that droping the subframe is needed.

I got mine all done for 290$... it was 240 for install... 50 bucks for alignment--alignment was cheap cause i said i had no money left... and i didnt... lol.

danny... if you ever decide on getting those sways... get it done @ Auto Innovations. It's a trip for you... going down to Milpitas... probably 30-35mins? but it'll be worth it.

No doubt! I went to AI for my suspension install a while back. At that time, getting the rear only wasn't an option, and the only shop(s) that had actually installed these were all in SoCal. I asked Orlando to confirm the dropping of the rear subframe, and he did. Mine would have been his first install. I may go back for this, I know he has done a few e90's by now!

Danny

roller84 · 04-16-2007, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kujo

rear subframe drop IS needed as stated.
That's why mine's not getting done until my LSD goes in.

kj

Same here, doing the LSD and sending out the calipers to get painted as well. Dopping the rear subframe also requires the brake lines to be disconnected so it all works out.

Acuracy · 04-17-2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by roller84

Same here, doing the LSD and sending out the calipers to get painted as well. Dopping the rear subframe also requires the brake lines to be disconnected so it all works out.

Are you serious? Damn, i didnt realize it was so complicated to install a RSB on this car, screw the DIY.

SROC3 · 04-17-2007, 09:18 AM

oh yeah......you don't wanna mess with it on your own unless you're a BMW mechanic or at least trained in the ancient art of "han-do-ring" (w/ Japanese accent). The guys at Technik in Marina Del Rey did mine for $420 installed. I was there for the whole thing and it definitely is a lot of work, but they do a REALLY good job and check everything 2 or 3 times. Its great to know for my peace of mind.

So for everyone "out" there - yes, its worth the drive fo sho! Look for Sam and he'll schedule everything for you.

creativeautoworks · 04-24-2007, 01:25 PM

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SROC3 The limit of adhesion is my home. 1702 Rep 3,778 Posts Drives: Like a Boss. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: three.one.zero iTrader: (1)	H&R (rear) Sway - Installed and "canyoned" So I hit the canyons in my 335i today and man.......big, big difference with the H&R (rear) sway installed. Turn-in is definitely more crisp, sharp and less plowing on the front. What does have to be taken into consideration though is that since there is more load resistance, when it does give out, it does so much more noticeably as well - but the "give" is communicated much better to the driver, thus easier to control. I originally thought of getting both the front and the rear sways. I strongly suggest to anyone that prior to getting both (unless you track regularly) you should install the rear one first and get "acquainted" with the car's handling, then get the front if you feel the need to do so. I may very well later on, but for now it feels just right. It's got that "point-and-shoot" feel to it. :rocks: MAD props to Technik/AutoTalent (SoCal-Marina Del Rey) for the incredible install. They not only did a fantastic job, but also were very patient in answering all my concerns and questions. Very good pricing and I HIGHLY recommend them. __________________ 2019 X3 xDrive30i Glacier Silver \| Cognac w/ Fine Cove \| MSport \| Premium \| Dynamic Handling PKG \| Drive Assist \| HK w/ Bavsound Upgrade \| Last edited by SROC3; 04-16-2007 at 02:40 PM..
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Fraggy Brigadier General 193 Rep 3,469 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego iTrader: (11)	I wouldnt imagine so, its pretty intensive, something about dropping the subframe, Im sure others will elaborate further. I got mine for $425 installed. __________________ 2016 Alpine White M3 (gone) 2019 Alfa Romeo Guilia (Totaled) 2020 Car-less 😁 (no more) 2020 M340
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SROC3 The limit of adhesion is my home. 1702 Rep 3,778 Posts Drives: Like a Boss. Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: three.one.zero iTrader: (1)	oh yeah......you don't wanna mess with it on your own unless you're a BMW mechanic or at least trained in the ancient art of "han-do-ring" (w/ Japanese accent). The guys at Technik in Marina Del Rey did mine for $420 installed. I was there for the whole thing and it definitely is a lot of work, but they do a REALLY good job and check everything 2 or 3 times. Its great to know for my peace of mind. So for everyone "out" there - yes, its worth the drive fo sho! Look for Sam and he'll schedule everything for you. __________________ 2019 X3 xDrive30i Glacier Silver \| Cognac w/ Fine Cove \| MSport \| Premium \| Dynamic Handling PKG \| Drive Assist \| HK w/ Bavsound Upgrade \|
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