Best non run flat All Season Tires?

slingxshot · 11-22-2013, 10:07 AM

I need ones that also have good side wall. I don't want to be wobbling around on a highway.

Thanks!

bvanlieu · 11-22-2013, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by slingxshot

Thanks!

Probably something you want to research in the tire forum. Tires are like oil, people can be passionate and opinionated.

For many moons Michelin Pilot A/S was the best HPAS out there IMHO, but plenty of good ones such as the Conti DWS, Dunlop SP's etc...Michelin has a new one out that is just getting some reviews too.

happy reading.

- b

KMEninety335 · 11-22-2013, 10:15 AM

idk about best but I have General GMax AS-03 and I love them. grip very well.

1chanc3 · 11-22-2013, 10:31 AM

You will hear these being thrown around a lot. Michelin PSS (pilot super sport) and hankook ventus v12. These aren't cheap though, albeit cheaper than RFTs.

smallseafishie · 11-22-2013, 10:33 AM

Don't run the Yokohama A/S envigors. They tended to float and wander at highway speeds. I was OK with that thinking they'd outlast my summer tires. Wrong! I'm at 20k miles on my Michelin PSS with much more tread to go where as the yoko's were completely bald at 17k.

Mardio · 11-22-2013, 11:19 AM

Michelin pss imo.

fun2drive · 11-22-2013, 11:27 AM

OP said all around - Michelin PSS suck in ice and snow lets be honest here. I am a Michlelin fan and ran then. Michelin Pilot A/S and the Conti DWS are better for "all season". If you don't drive on snow or ice then PSS.

CruzS4e92 · 11-22-2013, 11:29 AM

i have conti DWS and LOVE them (even in snow) but the rears are nearly down to the wear bars at ~26k miles. the front have about 60% tread remaining. all highway, properly aligned/inflated

what are other people's experience running these on RWD e9x's?

Fillyo75 · 11-22-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 1chanc3

You will hear these being thrown around a lot. Michelin PSS (pilot super sport) and hankook ventus v12. These aren't cheap though, albeit cheaper than RFTs.

Those are both performance summer tires.

SLOWER · 11-22-2013, 11:33 AM

I have the DWS and they are very good wet and dry. I have not had them in the snow yet.

I know people also like the Pilot AS/3 a lot.

LQQKOUT · 11-22-2013, 11:34 AM

Continental DWS FTW.

335BOY · 11-22-2013, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by slingxshot

I need ones that also have good side wall. I don't want to be wobbling around on a highway.

Thanks!

A/S rft....couldnt think of a worse combination!

Make sure you get an "H" or V rated tire if you are looking for stability. I got rid of my RFT after 1,000 kms. WAAAAY better ride with regular tires. Having said that , i believe DWS has been crowned A/s champion by a magazine or 2.

Quasimodem · 11-22-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CruzS4e92

i have conti DWS and LOVE them (even in snow) but the rears are nearly down to the wear bars at ~26k miles. the front have about 60% tread remaining. all highway, properly aligned/inflated

what are other people's experience running these on RWD e9x's?

+1 on Conti DWS, but if you really want to wear down the rears, get a 335d.

youngdoc1 · 11-22-2013, 01:00 PM

I was going to get the Michelin Super Sports this past summer, but decided to get a more balanced tire because I do a lot of highway driving - Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Seasons. Really happy with them - quiet, stiff side walls but comfortable ride. Handling is great as well.

slingxshot · 11-22-2013, 01:00 PM

THe Conti DWS, I had them on my Subaru and side walls were horrible. At highway speeds I get that wobbly feeling. I didn't feel safe driving...

The only thing they were good at was winter driving

UKBasketball · 11-22-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by slingxshot

THe Conti DWS, I had them on my Subaru and side walls were horrible. At highway speeds I get that wobbly feeling. I didn't feel safe driving...

The only thing they were good at was winter driving

I'm considering a set of DWS to replace my run flats. Anyone else share this same experience as slingxshot? Don't want no wobbly feeling

I've read nothing but good things about DWS..

CruzS4e92 · 11-22-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UKBasketball

I'm considering a set of DWS to replace my run flats. Anyone else share this same experience as slingxshot? Don't want no wobbly feeling

I've read nothing but good things about DWS..

i drive about 25 turnpike miles each way to work, daily, and they are smooth and solid. great ride...

i won't comment on the speed i routinely hit but let's say when you drive the same route everyday you realize where the speed traps are.

glad to hear it wasn't just me with the rear tire wear. i get that it's rwd but i extremely rarely if ever spin my back wheels

ctuna · 11-22-2013, 01:27 PM

I don't think DWS are wobbly I have then on 17's
Anything in a 17 will feel wobbly compared to the ball bearing
early version RFT's. To me they feel more like what I was
used to in non RFT car's .

Quasimodem · 11-22-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CruzS4e92

glad to hear it wasn't just me with the rear tire wear. i get that it's rwd but i extremely rarely if ever spin my back wheels

It's not necessarily leaving rubber on the road on launch. Everytime you accelerate that "pushing" force (torque) coming from the rear tires. The fronts are just rolling with it. The rears do the work, just like on a bicycle, with normal wear, the rears will need to be replaced earlier. Now your fronts will likely wear more on the sides of the tires if they are out of alignment.

Nebraska330xi · 11-22-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UKBasketball

Quote:

Originally Posted by slingxshot

THe Conti DWS, I had them on my Subaru and side walls were horrible. At highway speeds I get that wobbly feeling. I didn't feel safe driving...

The only thing they were good at was winter driving

I'm considering a set of DWS to replace my run flats. Anyone else share this same experience as slingxshot? Don't want no wobbly feeling

I've read nothing but good things about DWS..

Mine feel great. I could probably go 150mph on them and feel comfortable.

hockeyplayer · 11-22-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KMEninety335

idk about best but I have General GMax AS-03 and I love them. grip very well.

+1. Put a set on the GF's car a few months ago. Solid & a very quiet ride. The rep from tirerack said people are really pleased with them.

At just over $500 (not including installation) I think it's a great deal. Plus, they sent me a $50 rebate debit card.

So far they have performed well in the rain. The last set I had on her car was the Kumho's & I won't be buying those again. Performed well enough but got REALLY loud once they had some wear on them.

Speedwagon · 11-22-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slingxshot

THe Conti DWS, I had them on my Subaru and side walls were horrible. At highway speeds I get that wobbly feeling. I didn't feel safe driving...

The only thing they were good at was winter driving

It must be the car, my E91 rides like it's on rails at 150mph with the Conti DWS tires on the autobahn, maybe the tire pressures were low on your DWS!

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1chanc3 Major 148 Rep 1,100 Posts Drives: 2010 e92 335i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	You will hear these being thrown around a lot. Michelin PSS (pilot super sport) and hankook ventus v12. These aren't cheap though, albeit cheaper than RFTs. __________________ 2010 335i Coupe- Monaco Blue Metallic
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smallseafishie Colonel 110 Rep 2,017 Posts Drives: AW 07 e92 335i + AW 11 X5 35d Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Atlanta GA iTrader: (13) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	Don't run the Yokohama A/S envigors. They tended to float and wander at highway speeds. I was OK with that thinking they'd outlast my summer tires. Wrong! I'm at 20k miles on my Michelin PSS with much more tread to go where as the yoko's were completely bald at 17k.
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fun2drive BMWCCA 149159 38 Rep 847 Posts Drives: 13 128i Vert/ 14 JGC Diesel Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Florida Panhandle iTrader: (1)	OP said all around - Michelin PSS suck in ice and snow lets be honest here. I am a Michlelin fan and ran then. Michelin Pilot A/S and the Conti DWS are better for "all season". If you don't drive on snow or ice then PSS.
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CruzS4e92 Lieutenant 8 Rep 414 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 328i coupe Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Horsham, PA/Sea Isle City, NJ iTrader: (0)	i have conti DWS and LOVE them (even in snow) but the rears are nearly down to the wear bars at ~26k miles. the front have about 60% tread remaining. all highway, properly aligned/inflated what are other people's experience running these on RWD e9x's? __________________ '09 328i coupe 6MT Sport SG/CR - BMW SSK/alcantara boot - 30% Llumar - Shadowline - BBS Style 197 - LUX H8 V3 LEDs - OEM Aero Lip
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SLOWER Lieutenant Colonel 309 Rep 1,733 Posts Drives: 2003 M3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: MA iTrader: (8) Garage List 2024 BMW X5 M60i [0.00] 2003 M3 Convertible [0.00]	I have the DWS and they are very good wet and dry. I have not had them in the snow yet. I know people also like the Pilot AS/3 a lot.
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youngdoc1 Private First Class 34 Rep 150 Posts Drives: 2019 X4 M40i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (0)	I was going to get the Michelin Super Sports this past summer, but decided to get a more balanced tire because I do a lot of highway driving - Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Seasons. Really happy with them - quiet, stiff side walls but comfortable ride. Handling is great as well.
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ctuna Lieutenant General 1911 Rep 13,104 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	I don't think DWS are wobbly I don't think DWS are wobbly I have then on 17's Anything in a 17 will feel wobbly compared to the ball bearing early version RFT's. To me they feel more like what I was used to in non RFT car's .
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