[335dlci]

Originally Posted by lnxguy

You need the engine to turn over before you worry about bleeding the system. One thing at a time.

I would bleed it first before cranking it. Not the other way around.

[hanxter7]

Well, the problem is that the car won't turn over, I'm trying to find a viable solution. I have heard that air in the fuel lines won't allow it to start, so where does that leave me?

[hanxter7]

Is there another thread where they have already discussed the bleeding, i'm just not sure where to bleed from?

[Tambohamilton]

Originally Posted by lnxguy

You need the engine to turn over before you worry about bleeding the system. One thing at a time.

This.

Have you checked all electrical connections between the battery and the starter? And earth strap from the block to the chassis?

[hanxter7]

No actually, I guess now is a good time though since I have the intake off. I just can't find anything on how to bleed the air out of the lines, like where to hook in to pull out or release the air.

[Tambohamilton]

Forget about bleeding the fuel system until you've got the engine cranking over

[hanxter7]

oh gotcha, ok, I've got some more work to do

[maryjane]

Have you tried to JUMP the starter with a screwdriver or jump button? Checked the ground strap? Like others have said get it turning over before worrying abo0ut fuel.

[lnxguy]

Originally Posted by 335dlci

I would bleed it first before cranking it. Not the other way around.

In this scenario you don't have much of a choice, lol. Figure out why it's not cranking, fix that, then worry about fuel.

[hanxter7]

Originally Posted by maryjane

Have you tried to JUMP the starter with a screwdriver or jump button? Checked the ground strap? Like others have said get it turning over before worrying abo0ut fuel.

How do I JUMP the starter? I guess it's obvious at this point that I haven't tried that, nor have I tried the check the ground strap. I keep wondering if there is something simple I missed with all of the replacements I have made in this car.

[maryjane]

Harbor freight makes a button type that you can turn over a motor with a battery ( all mechanics should have 1 they're under 20 bucks ).or you can just go old school and stick a screwdriver across the starter terminals.

[hanxter7]

thank you. i am curious at this point how important the glow plugs and module in this whole debaucal?

[335dlci]

Originally Posted by lnxguy

In this scenario you don't have much of a choice, lol. Figure out why it's not cranking, fix that, then worry about fuel.

You don't have to crank it to bleed the system. Lol

[hanxter7]

Originally Posted by maryjane

Have you tried to JUMP the starter with a screwdriver or jump button? Checked the ground strap? Like others have said get it turning over before worrying abo0ut fuel.

Originally Posted by maryjane

Have you tried to JUMP the starter with a screwdriver or jump button? Checked the ground strap? Like others have said get it turning over before worrying abo0ut fuel.

I have been looking for a while and am trying to find pictures/videos of ground wire/strap locations, but to no avail. i have a 2011 335d with an E90 M57 diesel engine.

[Tambohamilton]

Originally Posted by 335dlci

You don't have to crank it to bleed the system. Lol

Do go on...

[335dlci]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

Do go on...

Yeah you don't. With the correct tools, you don't need to start the vehicle to essentially bleed the system.

[Tambohamilton]

How? What tools? The only way I know is to turn the hpfp to pump the air out

[335dlci]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

How? What tools? The only way I know is to turn the hpfp to pump the air out

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+softeare+do+bnw+dealers+use&client=m s-android-verizon&sxsrf=AOaemvICAJuAY1iFvm7YISMn6cM_4vv6cQ%3 A1636724582029&ei=Zm-OYZ-WAcvk-gTX-oK4Dg&oq=what+softeare+do+bnw+dealers+use&gs_lcp=C hNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBAgAEA0yBQgAEIYDMgU IABCGAzoECAAQRzoHCCMQ6gIQJzoECCMQJzoFCAAQkQI6CwgAE IAEELEDEIMBOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARCjAjoOCC4QgAQQsQM QxwEQowI6BAgAEEM6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOggIABCABBCxAzoIC AAQsQMQgwE6BQgAEIAEOggILhCABBCxAzoKCAAQgAQQhwIQFDo ECAAQCjoHCCEQChCgAToKCCEQFhAKEB0QHjoHCCEQChCrAjoGC AAQFhAeUPsJWM9DYN9GaAJwAXgAgAHiAYgBuiuSAQYwLjI4LjS YAQCgAQGwAQ_IAQjAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

[MidWillamette335d]

Been following this as it pops back up. Sorry about your troubles. Just to offer some opinions....did you have to pull the ECU when you got your tune or was it via OBD? I remember when I got my ECU (DDE) back from being flashed there were bold letters stating to make sure the plugs were fully snapped in with the latch. Apparently sometimes they don't fully seat and might cause issues. I'd also verify all your fuses, in engine bay and cabin.
In regards to jumping your pump there are some posts in the sticky section threads (DFFF) that discusses removing your rear passenger seat bottom to access the two power wires to jump your lift pump.
At this point you might want to invest a bit north of 200 and get the BG cable and ProTools. It's a great tool you'll use as long as you own the car and can probably help you diagnose some issues you're having...it also can prime your fuel system for you, among a myriad of other things. Good luck, I know how the chase feels...

[Tambohamilton]

Originally Posted by 335dlci

https://www.google.com/search?q=what+softeare+do+bnw+dealers+use&client=m s-android-verizon&sxsrf=AOaemvICAJuAY1iFvm7YISMn6cM_4vv6cQ%3 A1636724582029&ei=Zm-OYZ-WAcvk-gTX-oK4Dg&oq=what+softeare+do+bnw+dealers+use&gs_lcp=C hNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBAgAEA0yBQgAEIYDMgU IABCGAzoECAAQRzoHCCMQ6gIQJzoECCMQJzoFCAAQkQI6CwgAE IAEELEDEIMBOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARCjAjoOCC4QgAQQsQM QxwEQowI6BAgAEEM6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOggIABCABBCxAzoIC AAQsQMQgwE6BQgAEIAEOggILhCABBCxAzoKCAAQgAQQhwIQFDo ECAAQCjoHCCEQChCgAToKCCEQFhAKEB0QHjoHCCEQChCrAjoGC AAQFhAeUPsJWM9DYN9GaAJwAXgAgAHiAYgBuiuSAQYwLjI4LjS YAQCgAQGwAQ_IAQjAAQE&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

Cool. So, that links nicely to this thread, and the homepages of a few BMW dealers. Fyi, I can use Google, and have all BMW factory software alongside Protool. I'm yet to find any software capable of bleeding the fuel rail, because that requires the hpfp to turn, which requires the timing gear to turn, which hopefully doesn't happen without the engine turning.

The procedure you're familiar with runs the lpfp, which will bleed the low pressure side of the fuel system (preheater, filter, etc).

[335dlci]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

Cool. So, that links nicely to this thread, and the homepages of a few BMW dealers. Fyi, I can use Google, and have all BMW factory software alongside Protool. I'm yet to find any software capable of bleeding the fuel rail, because that requires the hpfp to turn, which requires the timing gear to turn, which hopefully doesn't happen without the engine turning.

The procedure you're familiar with runs the lpfp, which will bleed the low pressure side of the fuel system (preheater, filter, etc).

AND the high pressure side also.

[Nadir Point]

Damn, I need to log in here more often. Sometimes even cranking doesn't seem to help much in a few cases documented here!

I have a bonus question for this one, when we get to the end...

(It refers back to the 3rd post in this thread.)