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04-22-2023, 10:50 AM | #1 |
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Engine died. Need fault code interpretation help
2013 E92 N55 335i x-Drive, 81K miles. Has been running fine until today when it died in a Home Depot parking lot as I was leaving. Was waiting to turn, and the engine suddenly stumbled and stalled. Got a "Check Engine" symbol on the center of the instrument cluster (the picture of an engine). I tried to restart, and the engine started but idled rough and died again. Got it going again and slowly backed up into the parking lot. Called roadside and had the car towed home.
I have a JB4 tune. A few miles earlier in my trip, the cluster reset (i.e. gauge needles dropped and then wound around to max, hazard lights blinked) but no noticeable change in performance. "That's odd" I thought at the time but forgot about it until this incident. I just pulled the codes. Here's what came back: 38A4 Intelligent battery sensor (IBS): Communications fault 38B4 BSD: No message from intelligent battery sensor (IBS) 2C90 Blow-off valve: Jammed closed CD87 DME, PT-CAN: Communications fault 2C01 High Pressure fuel, plausibility Pressure too low 2EFE Combustion misfires, several cylinders: detected 2EFF Combustion misfire, cylinder 1: detected 2F03 Misfire, Cylinder 5: detected 2F01 Combustion misfire, Cylinder 3: detected 2F04 Misfire, Cylinder 6: detected 2F00 Combustion misfire, Cylinder 2: detected 2EE2 Misfire, several cylinders: damaging exhaust gas after starting up 2EE6 Misfire, Cylinder 1: damaging exhaust gas after starting up 2EF3 Misfire,Cylinder 5: damaging exhaust gas after starting up 2EWC Misfire, Cylinder 3: damaging exhaust gas after starting up 2EF6 Misfire, Cylinder 6: damaging exhaus gas after starting up 2EE9 Misfire, Cylinder 2: damaging exhaust gas after starting up The engine seems to be running normally now. (Tow truck operator drove it on and off the flatbed.) Any ideas where to start? Last edited by MtBMW73; 04-22-2023 at 11:01 AM.. |
04-22-2023, 11:24 AM | #2 |
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I'd remove JB4 and set it back to stock tune to start.
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04-22-2023, 11:37 AM | #3 |
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You indicate an issue with Instrument Cluster preceded stalling. That is often the result of Over-Voltage (> 16.0V alternator output), or voltage spikes that scramble bus communications between Modules. Three (3) of 5 faults (other than "Misfire faults") are "Message" faults. If any FF Data shows System Voltage > 16.0V you may simply need to replace the Voltage Regulator in rear of Alternator. Most Scan Tools display system voltage as Live Data, or simply monitoring Voltage at Jumpstart Terminals with motor running using DMM (or Hidden Menu 9.00) will give some clues. "CD87 DME, PT-CAN: Communications fault" suggests a short-circuit in PT-CAN Bus wiring. Whatever is causing the issue, there appears to be an intermittent "scrambling" of PT-CAN bus signals, interfering with proper DME control of one or more systems, such as injector function. Perhaps if you can indicate WHAT Diagnostic Software (INPA/ISTA) or Scan Tool (make/model) you have available, someone familiar with that can suggest specific tests, such as monitoring of specific Live Data. George |
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04-23-2023, 10:31 AM | #5 | |
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If after a few more drives, everything is still OK, I'll switch the JB4 back on and see if the problem comes back. As far as my scan tool, I am using the Autophix 7910. The JB4 software will also allow monitoring of live data. I usually use the Autophix scanner to read and delete codes, since the JB4 software doesn't have descriptions for a lot of the codes, whereas the Autophix almost always does. Thanks for the detailed info. Gives me something to go on if this happens again. |
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FF Data is particularly helpful when trying to diagnose an "Intermittent" fault. If all you can use is Live Data, you have to "Catch it in the act" which is NOT easy if quite infrequent. If you have a Windows Laptop, you can use INPA or ISTA for a one-time expense of $30 to $50 for K+DCAN Cable. Read Codes, FF Data, Live Data, Activations of Motors & Solenoids, etc. ISTA is a complete Shop Manual with Wiring diagrams, Repair procedures, Torque Specs, etc. See attached pdf for info. George |
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04-23-2023, 04:22 PM | #7 |
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Stab in the dark; what's your battery voltage, running and at rest? The IBS codes have me suspicious.
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04-24-2023, 02:12 AM | #9 |
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11.79 is weak, but 14.4 is spot on. I'd connect to a decent charger for 24h. Seems unlikely that was your issue, but these cars do not like low voltage!
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