My dyno plot - Bolt on's, 91 Octane and Dyno Jet

Cripple · 06-25-2013, 02:09 PM

Good afternoon gents. I recently did my dyno this week and got some odd ball numbers I feel.
Mods:
JB4 G5 Map #5
VRSF Downpipes
ER Charge pipe
TiaL BOV
BMS DCI

My torque curve is insane, this is a fourth gear pull as well. Now, I feel like my HP numbers are kind of low, could this be due to not running my intercooler currently?

The worst part is, I didn't have a cable to log my dyno pulls when I was there, so I can't really see whats going on.

Do these numbers look accurate for these mods?

09BMW335i · 06-25-2013, 02:13 PM

numbers seem low should be more in the low, to low mid 400 so let me ask this

did you do any pulls to let the JB4 adapt
what version are you running? hex 21 or greater?

Cripple · 06-25-2013, 02:19 PM

I did a bunch of pulls, I had installed it a month or so ago. I am running only 91 octane gas, no E85 up here. I don't know which version I am running due to not having the cable for my JB4

09BMW335i · 06-25-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cripple

I did a bunch of pulls, I had installed it a month or so ago. I am running only 91 octane gas, no E85 up here. I don't know which version I am running due to not having the cable for my JB4

i would say get a cable and do a log and send to Terry looks like there might be something off but, hard to say with no log.

JStang · 06-25-2013, 02:26 PM

No FMIC? Heat soak could have set in. Did you log IAT's?

Cripple · 06-25-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JStang

No FMIC? Heat soak could have set in. Did you log IAT's?

Nope. Was a sad day for not having the cable, but the dyno was only $50.00 for three pulls.

E90Company · 06-25-2013, 02:32 PM

Normal on 91 octane and no FMIC. You can see timing drops in your dyno as well.

Rotorocious · 06-25-2013, 02:40 PM

buy a cable

The Ghost · 06-25-2013, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 09BMW335i

numbers seem low should be more in the low, to low mid 400 so let me ask this

did you do any pulls to let the JB4 adapt
what version are you running? hex 21 or greater?

Nope. He is on 91 with stock FMIC. He isn't going to make mid 400's. 330 seems reasonable. You need good gas to make good power. Switch to e85. +80whp easily.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-25-2013, 08:15 PM

350rw is not unreasonable for 91 octane. It can be pretty bad. But without a datalog it's hard to determine why it isn't say 370rw like I've seen from others on 91 octane with similar mods.

Mike

Cripple · 06-25-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

Nope. He is on 91 with stock FMIC. He isn't going to make mid 400's. 330 seems reasonable. You need good gas to make good power. Switch to e85. +80whp easily.

I would love to run E85! It's extremely hard to source in Canada. None in my province

zeel · 06-25-2013, 11:07 PM

Can you source meth? That would be able to bring you into the 400whp club.

Bimmer Barney · 06-25-2013, 11:40 PM

I haven't been on the dyno but I would expect the same numbers. I'm actually surprised at the torque being that high. I have essentially the same mods.

Cripple · 06-26-2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by zeel

Can you source meth? That would be able to bring you into the 400whp club.

My charge pipe has two bungs and I already have the DevilsOwn black 2.5 Gallon race tank with level sensor installed. Just waiting to do either intercooler before meth!

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 06-26-2013, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cripple

My charge pipe has two bungs and I already have the DevilsOwn black 2.5 Gallon race tank with level sensor installed. Just waiting to do either intercooler before meth!

No reason to wait for an intercooler to do meth injection. You got a good 40WHP or more on the table just adding methanol to your current setup.

Numbers seem about right considering the potential heat soak, timing drops, and 91 octane.

Cripple · 06-26-2013, 11:59 AM

I just need to source the rest of the kit. I don't really know exactly what I need; and my main concern is if I am capable enough to do the install my self. This is something I do not want to have screw up!

Something acted funny with my vehicle last night actually. I was driving home from work (12 minute ride) and I never got "on it" should I say. Near the end of my ride, after a light I went to pass a car and tossed into sport, banged down a gear and floored it. The RPMS crawled up and I couldn't hear any boost. All of a sudden, CEL ignited and I turned into the lane after letting him pass. I than put into regular D and back into Sport. With the CEL still illuminated I tried the throttle again, this time it let me boost like normal until I got home. I turned the car off and back on and the CEL was gone.

It felt as if I was miss firing almost, does this engine have a common issue with the coilpacks? I only have 38,000 km's (23,000 miles).

Cripple · 06-26-2013, 07:55 PM

Push!

dfjaws · 06-26-2013, 09:24 PM

Those torque numbers don't seem correct to me. I'm FBO with 93oct fuel and I made 378hp and 417tq (no meth, JB4 was well adapted). I would think my car would make more just having the intercooler and better gas.

TTurbo335 · 06-26-2013, 10:00 PM

get some MS109 + VP M1 Meth

for your next dyno run and you will not be disappointed. & get a FMIC. I love my ER FMIC full kit

09BMW335i · 06-27-2013, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

Nope. He is on 91 with stock FMIC. He isn't going to make mid 400's. 330 seems reasonable. You need good gas to make good power. Switch to e85. +80whp easily.

Missed the 91

06-25-2013, 02:09 PM	#1
Cripple Captain 102 Rep 775 Posts Drives: 12' 335is Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada iTrader: (4)	My dyno plot - Bolt on's, 91 Octane and Dyno Jet - Weird numbers.... Good afternoon gents. I recently did my dyno this week and got some odd ball numbers I feel. Mods: JB4 G5 Map #5 VRSF Downpipes ER Charge pipe TiaL BOV BMS DCI My torque curve is insane, this is a fourth gear pull as well. Now, I feel like my HP numbers are kind of low, could this be due to not running my intercooler currently? The worst part is, I didn't have a cable to log my dyno pulls when I was there, so I can't really see whats going on. Do these numbers look accurate for these mods? __________________ 14' M235I \| BMW Performance Exhaust \| BMW Performance Diffuser \| BMW Performance Carbon Interior \| ER DP \| JB4 S2 \| BC Forged HB29's \| N54Tuning.com \| getBMWparts.com Current: 2015 Cayman S on HRE P101
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09BMW335i Second Lieutenant 29 Rep 259 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: northwest burbs, IL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 Ford Explorer ... [0.00] 2009 335I [0.00]	numbers seem low should be more in the low, to low mid 400 so let me ask this did you do any pulls to let the JB4 adapt what version are you running? hex 21 or greater? __________________ 09 335i Sport --MHD (Tune by Wedge )--Inlet System by Trueform Technologies --Tial BOV--Macht Schnell Catless Downpipes--AMS FMIC--Walbro 455 LPFP--HPF Gen2 Exhaust--SPEC Stage 3+ clutch / billet steel flywheel-- Last edited by 09BMW335i; 06-25-2013 at 02:19 PM..
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Cripple Captain 102 Rep 775 Posts Drives: 12' 335is Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada iTrader: (4)	I did a bunch of pulls, I had installed it a month or so ago. I am running only 91 octane gas, no E85 up here. I don't know which version I am running due to not having the cable for my JB4 __________________ 14' M235I \| BMW Performance Exhaust \| BMW Performance Diffuser \| BMW Performance Carbon Interior \| ER DP \| JB4 S2 \| BC Forged HB29's \| N54Tuning.com \| getBMWparts.com Current: 2015 Cayman S on HRE P101
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E90Company Major General 194 Rep 6,136 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	Normal on 91 octane and no FMIC. You can see timing drops in your dyno as well.
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Rotorocious Lieutenant Colonel 103 Rep 1,520 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: May 2010 Location: Colorado iTrader: (3)	buy a cable
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JStang Brigadier General 562 Rep 3,625 Posts Drives: FDB M3 CS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: St. Petersburg, FL iTrader: (9)	No FMIC? Heat soak could have set in. Did you log IAT's?
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4918 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	350rw is not unreasonable for 91 octane. It can be pretty bad. But without a datalog it's hard to determine why it isn't say 370rw like I've seen from others on 91 octane with similar mods. Mike
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zeel Lieutenant 14 Rep 579 Posts Drives: 08 AW e92 335i Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: MD/NOVA/DC iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 bmw e92 335i [7.34]	Can you source meth? That would be able to bring you into the 400whp club. __________________ 11.76 @ 124mph (123.9) full weight/street tires/no meth.
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Bimmer Barney Lieutenant Colonel 1250 Rep 1,502 Posts Drives: 2011.5 E90M ZCP Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: California iTrader: (4)	I haven't been on the dyno but I would expect the same numbers. I'm actually surprised at the torque being that high. I have essentially the same mods. __________________ 2011.5 E90 M3 DCT ZCP Slicktop
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Cripple Captain 102 Rep 775 Posts Drives: 12' 335is Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada iTrader: (4)	I just need to source the rest of the kit. I don't really know exactly what I need; and my main concern is if I am capable enough to do the install my self. This is something I do not want to have screw up! Something acted funny with my vehicle last night actually. I was driving home from work (12 minute ride) and I never got "on it" should I say. Near the end of my ride, after a light I went to pass a car and tossed into sport, banged down a gear and floored it. The RPMS crawled up and I couldn't hear any boost. All of a sudden, CEL ignited and I turned into the lane after letting him pass. I than put into regular D and back into Sport. With the CEL still illuminated I tried the throttle again, this time it let me boost like normal until I got home. I turned the car off and back on and the CEL was gone. It felt as if I was miss firing almost, does this engine have a common issue with the coilpacks? I only have 38,000 km's (23,000 miles). __________________ 14' M235I \| BMW Performance Exhaust \| BMW Performance Diffuser \| BMW Performance Carbon Interior \| ER DP \| JB4 S2 \| BC Forged HB29's \| N54Tuning.com \| getBMWparts.com Current: 2015 Cayman S on HRE P101
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Cripple Captain 102 Rep 775 Posts Drives: 12' 335is Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada iTrader: (4)	Push! __________________ 14' M235I \| BMW Performance Exhaust \| BMW Performance Diffuser \| BMW Performance Carbon Interior \| ER DP \| JB4 S2 \| BC Forged HB29's \| N54Tuning.com \| getBMWparts.com Current: 2015 Cayman S on HRE P101
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dfjaws Lieutenant 57 Rep 535 Posts Drives: E90 M3 / E86 M Coupe Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Des Moines, IA iTrader: (5)	Those torque numbers don't seem correct to me. I'm FBO with 93oct fuel and I made 378hp and 417tq (no meth, JB4 was well adapted). I would think my car would make more just having the intercooler and better gas. __________________
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TTurbo335 Second Lieutenant 21 Rep 200 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: So Cal iTrader: (2)	get some MS109 + VP M1 Meth for your next dyno run and you will not be disappointed. & get a FMIC. I love my ER FMIC full kit
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