right map for my mods?

john boxter · 11-09-2009, 06:14 PM

hey guys what map should i be on to ensure maximum reliability for say 100k+milage so i dont want to run something that gives lots of limp modes or anything to extreme yet i would like maximum perfectly safe power
Current mods
jb3
bms dual cone
ar coated downpipes

i will add these soon

intercooler (coming in the summer for now its very cold here i dont think i need one in the winter)
forge dvs or tial bov coming in couple weeks

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 11-09-2009, 06:21 PM

If on 93 octane you can do map 4/5 and if on 91 octane go for map 2/3

Mike

ToadHollow · 11-09-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by john boxter

hey guys what map should i be on to ensure maximum reliability for say 100k+milage so i dont want to run something that gives lots of limp modes or anything to extreme yet i would like maximum perfectly safe power
Current mods
jb3
bms dual cone
ar coated downpipes

i will add these soon

intercooler (coming in the summer for now its very cold here i dont think i need one in the winter)
forge dvs or tial bov coming in couple weeks

catted or catless?

I just recently installed some aftermarket DVs (Riss Racing) and am really surprised at what I was missing without them. You'll agree once you upgrade ......

john boxter · 11-09-2009, 06:31 PM

awesome thanks guys map 6 or 7 is a no no huh?

ianthegreat · 11-09-2009, 06:33 PM

Toad I've got some forge DV's sitting on my floor. Can't wait to get them in before this weekend.

ianthegreat · 11-09-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by john boxter

awesome thanks guys map 6 or 7 is a no no huh?

w/ supporting mods you are fine.. you stated longevity though and that really has little to do with the tune, more the way you drive.

ToadHollow · 11-09-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ianthegreat

Toad I've got some forge DV's sitting on my floor. Can't wait to get them in before this weekend.

NICE.

I was a skeptic before the install, but no longer. The boost definitely stays in place with little to no loss between shifts.

LOL, it was like driving with a new tune all over again. Still impresses me now & then.

ToadHollow · 11-09-2009, 06:42 PM

Boxter:

Definitely go with the dDVs & the FMIC. Then you can virtually take advantage of whatever map you like if you don't plan on keeping the car past warranty expiration.

Otherwise, I wouldn't play with more than Map 7. Just like the rest of us though ........ once you get a taste of what's available (RWHP!!!) you lose the will to stop.

john boxter · 11-09-2009, 06:46 PM

the thing is love my car i dont care to upgrade!!!!! i wish i could run map 7 as a daily driver and not worry about longevity

Belarus · 11-11-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ToadHollow

Boxter:

Definitely go with the dDVs & the FMIC. Then you can virtually take advantage of whatever map you like if you don't plan on keeping the car past warranty expiration.

Otherwise, I wouldn't play with more than Map 7. Just like the rest of us though ........ once you get a taste of what's available (RWHP!!!) you lose the will to stop.

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Originally Posted by john boxter

the thing is love my car i dont care to upgrade!!!!! i wish i could run map 7 as a daily driver and not worry about longevity

You can run on MAP 7 safely. If you only filling up with good quality RdON 93 gas since MAP 7 advances ignition timing and air to fuel % mix. Anything below RdON 93 can create a knock and prolonged engine knock..... engine

. Plus you must have DPs and FMIC. MUST have Oil Cooler if you're planning to do lots of WOT on Hot days. Nice to have to complement MAP 5 or 7 DV or BOV, OCC and Charge Pipe to reduce chance of blow off that leads to ---->

enrita · 11-11-2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Belarus

You can run on MAP 7 safely. If you only filling up with good quality RdON 93 gas since MAP 7 advances ignition timing and air to fuel % mix. Anything below RdON 93 can create a knock and prolonged engine knock..... engine

. Plus you must have DPs and FMIC. MUST have Oil Cooler if you're planning to do lots of WOT on Hot days. Nice to have to complement MAP 5 or 7 DV or BOV, OCC and Charge Pipe to reduce chance of blow off that leads to ---->

When the N54 shows knock its not an actual knock (thats reported through BT cable and ECU as "Superknock")
the knock sensor is calibrated to prevent knock from happening way before . Since timings can be pulled in one cycle the event of Real knock / Superknock is almost impossible or at least there must be something seriously wrong in the engine for that to happen.

Belarus · 11-11-2009, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by enrita

When the N54 shows knock its not an actual knock (thats reported through BT cable and ECU as "Superknock")
the knock sensor is calibrated to prevent knock from happening way before . Since timings can be pulled in one cycle the event of Real knock / Superknock is almost impossible or at least there must be something seriously wrong in the engine for that to happen.

Even with JB3 ECU remapping ...

enrita · 11-11-2009, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Belarus

Even with JB3 ECU remapping ...

yes of course. The knock sensor has nothing to do with JB3 or any other tune.

marconi118 · 11-11-2009, 03:56 AM

JB3 doesn't alter timing, it is the ECU that adapts with his knock sensor....

So no way that JB3 adds timing to the stock ECU tables.

enrita · 11-11-2009, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by marconi118

JB3 doesn't alter timing, it is the ECU that adapts with his knock sensor....

So no way that JB3 adds timing to the stock ECU tables.

correct

Belarus · 11-11-2009, 04:15 PM

Thank you for an educational feedback to correct me

RevC · 11-11-2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ToadHollow

NICE.

I was a skeptic before the install, but no longer. The boost definitely stays in place with little to no loss between shifts.

LOL, it was like driving with a new tune all over again. Still impresses me now & then.

you really like em huh? im getting a set in soon..see if they will do anything for my car

you can run map 7 john..i run 7 all day long on 93 and have had no issues with just catless ar downpipes, dci

john boxter · 11-11-2009, 08:43 PM

awesome ill try that

ToadHollow · 11-11-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RevC

you really like em huh? im getting a set in soon..see if they will do anything for my car

you can run map 7 john..i run 7 all day long on 93 and have had no issues with just catless ar downpipes, dci

Yeah, I do. I never realized the added benefits to installing aftermarket dv's over the OEM.

RevC · 11-11-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ToadHollow

Yeah, I do. I never realized the added benefits to installing aftermarket dv's over the OEM.

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john boxter Captain 35 Rep 763 Posts Drives: 2008 e93 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: long Island New York iTrader: (3)	right map for my mods? hey guys what map should i be on to ensure maximum reliability for say 100k+milage so i dont want to run something that gives lots of limp modes or anything to extreme yet i would like maximum perfectly safe power Current mods jb3 bms dual cone ar coated downpipes i will add these soon intercooler (coming in the summer for now its very cold here i dont think i need one in the winter) forge dvs or tial bov coming in couple weeks
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ianthegreat Colonel 60 Rep 2,314 Posts Drives: n54 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pittsburgh/Houston iTrader: (1)	Toad I've got some forge DV's sitting on my floor. Can't wait to get them in before this weekend.
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