[kyriian]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

OOPS!

The Environmental Impact of Battery Production
The additional environmental cost of transporting these batteries results in a higher carbon footprint than ICE vehicles. A 2021 study comparing EV and ICE emissions found that 46% of EV carbon emissions come from the production process while for an ICE vehicle, they ‘only’ account for 26%. Almost 4 tonnes of CO2 are released during the production process of a single electric car and, in order to break even, the vehicle must be used for at least 8 years to offset the initial emissions by 0.5 tonnes of prevented emissions annually.

Furthermore, producing one tonne of lithium (enough for ~100 car batteries) requires approximately 2 million tonnes of water, which makes battery production an extremely water-intensive practice.

Nickel and cobalt have similar reputations. Satellite analysis in Cuba has shown a devoid of life in over 570 hectares of land and contamination of over 10 kilometres of coastline where nickel and cobalt mines are present. The Philippines had to shut down 23 mines, many producing nickel and cobalt, because of the environmental degradation that it caused.

https://earth.org/environmental-impa...ry-production/

EV owners probably

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by kyriian

EV owners probably

That’s definitely me except the monkey is dumber and lacks rhythm.

[AmuroRay]

I don't know, call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever, but I don't know a single activist of anything. Literally, not one single cause.

I used to be active in social media (meaning, I used it) and had a bunch of E-friends, or acquaintances I met once, but not a single one of these people was an activist for a single cause - animals, environment, race, police brutality...etc, etc. In fact, even the most popular of people would struggle just to have people attend a get together much less a protest. Seriously - how do large scale protests happen? Where - who organizes them? And Since when do they have so much "power" to sway the opinions of governments?

So I actually believe that most if not all activism is actually atroturfed by the government and other entities to make an agenda seem more popular than it is.

[Tejas1836]

They are astroturfed, you are on point

[X3_Alaska]

Originally Posted by m5rick

another vid to easily explain, approximately 500,000 pounds of rock and soil is dug to make each tesla,@9:23 so are the buyers singing ''la la i hear nothing, only what i want to hear' . Worth thinking about that for a while.

Deepwater Horizon and Exxon Valdez enter the chat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/clima...-fossil-fuels/

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Alaska_X5

Deepwater Horizon and Exxon Valdez enter the chat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/clima...-fossil-fuels/

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Thanks for posting Alaska_X5, vid is unavailable here and Washington Post is by subscription but I think I see the gist of it.

[KRS_SN]

Domino no 1 falls...important news...
https://news.sky.com/story/tory-back...edges-12965229

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Domino no 1 falls...important news...
https://news.sky.com/story/tory-back...edges-12965229

Ah you beat me to it KRS

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

Domino no 1 falls...important news...
https://news.sky.com/story/tory-back...edges-12965229

Some common sense it seems.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Some common sense it seems.

Countries get out over their skis and looks like M5Rick beat some a$$ in the UK and they are walking things back a little.

Totally predictable.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Countries get out over their skis and looks like M5Rick beat some a$$ in the UK and they are walking things back a little.

Totally predictable.

Thanks gblansten, much appreciated. Not celebrating yet but maybe a case of the pen mightier than the sword, we'll see.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by gblansten

Countries get out over their skis and looks like M5Rick beat some a$$ in the UK and they are walking things back a little.

Totally predictable.

That would be nice, but I'm not sure some of the very activist governments will be so quick to back track. Lets hope though.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

That would be nice, but I'm not sure some of the very activist governments will be so quick to back track. Lets hope though.

Shift in power will quickily back track any major policy changes without fail

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by kyriian

Shift in power will quickily back track any major policy changes without fail

May probably be a winner for the current regime if implemented as without this they are onto a loser next year. There were 34.8 M drivers in UK at the last count.

[M5Rick]

Yes ! It's going ahead, ban on gas and diesel new car sales delayed until 2035 confirmed by P M, same as in the States.
Now for the next stage to dispel the climate crisis lie and keep our gas cars without more gubment interference.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/2404...r_thesun_daily

[carseatsm5]

“Deep-sea mining could help solve the global critical minerals shortage, but it’s a lightning rod for controversy”

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/20/deep...an-energy.html

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by carseatsm5

“Deep-sea mining could help solve the global critical minerals shortage, but it’s a lightning rod for controversy”

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/20/deep...an-energy.html

That would really upset the marine conservationists.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by kyriian

Shift in power will quickily back track any major policy changes without fail

Not if there's a majority and the opposition are cracking out already some snowflake excuses.

[M5Rick]

Tesla hell keeps coming up, what if it caught fire.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/hertz-...out-of-charge/

[Sedoy]

It's one of those stupid industry trends of removing physical releases and buttons they need to stop, and Tesla is not the only manufacturer guilty of doing that. However, there is a manual release in Model 3 to open the doors in cases like that, but I'm sure nobody informed them about it.

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Tesla hell keeps coming up, what if it caught fire.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/hertz-...out-of-charge/

[Efthreeoh]

I've never left a car rental lot with anything but a full tank of GASOLINE. WTF Hertz sending an EV out with just 90 miles of range rented to an EV virgin.

[Murf the Surf]

This is very interesting, Hydrogen powered V8 hot rod truck. Going to put this in the Cool pic thread as well. I could get into this.