[yupetc]

Wrote a reply to Pedro at AA to see if I can also try this tune out. Can't wait!

Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Good to hear. Look forward to your review later.

[tom.gnade]

Nic @ AA sent me the latest tune file a few days ago. I'll apply it tomorrow and see what's up.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by Volasko

The fact AA doesn't charge for the revision update and is still trying to improve an old platform makes me a happy customer.

It is very decent of them.

[gunnerxq]

Originally Posted by Torgus

It is very decent of them.

* not if your stage 2 older then 2 years

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by gunnerxq

* not if your stage 2 older then 2 years

Given what people charge for tunes on the N51/2 every update should be free imo regardless of when you bought it.

[gunnerxq]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Given what people charge for tunes on the N51/2 every update should be free imo regardless of when you bought it.

Yeah I mean I did buy stage 1 then stage 2. My brother bought stage 2. Not sure if he still qualifies for the free update.

[Pidipompi]

Hey guys I live in California and I'm all new to tuning. I have a 2006 330xi with 130k all bone stock; only have a muffler and resonator delete.

I was intended to buy a BMS powerbox but I read on other forums that it isn't worth it and that you should spend money on an actual tune.

I'm really looking to getting an AA tune because BPC is looking a little to pricey for me.

Is it worth for the money for one?

[W37V]

Originally Posted by Pidipompi

Hey guys I live in California and I'm all new to tuning. I have a 2006 330xi with 130k all bone stock; only have a muffler and resonator delete.

I was intended to buy a BMS powerbox but I read on other forums that it isn't worth it and that you should spend money on an actual tune.

I'm really looking to getting an AA tune because BPC is looking a little to pricey for me.

Is it worth for the money for one?

IMO Yes. Don't bother with BMS

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by Pidipompi

Hey guys I live in California and I'm all new to tuning. I have a 2006 330xi with 130k all bone stock; only have a muffler and resonator delete.

I was intended to buy a BMS powerbox but I read on other forums that it isn't worth it and that you should spend money on an actual tune.

I'm really looking to getting an AA tune because BPC is looking a little to pricey for me.

Is it worth for the money for one?

kill me now

[Pidipompi]

Originally Posted by Mike.

kill me now

Lmao I was on the budget at the time.

I do notice a substantial hate on BMS is it because it isn't a true tune?

[martinm0]

Originally Posted by Pidipompi

I'm really looking to getting an AA tune because BPC is looking a little to pricey for me.

Keep in mind the price differences you are seeing is because BPC is including their flashing tool in that total price, where AA gives you the option to add it on for another $225. If you go the AA route and do not get the Simon cable, you will need to pay a shop to flash for you (and re-flash if there is an update).

[Pidipompi]

Originally Posted by martinm0

Keep in mind the price differences you are seeing is because BPC is including their flashing tool in that total price, where AA gives you the option to add it on for another $225. If you go the AA route and do not get the Simon cable, you will need to pay a shop to flash for you (and re-flash if there is an update).

Yea I plan to drive to a shop, it's about 45 mins away.
Do updates regularly show up frequently?

[martinm0]

Originally Posted by Pidipompi

Yea I plan to drive to a shop, it's about 45 mins away.
Do updates regularly show up frequently?

I'm too new to offer insights into the tunes and they upgrade intervals. I bought mine from BPC back in April or May, so AA has come out with a new tune since then. I went BPC at the time due to the increased torque, and that their flashing tool is a standalone tool and does not need a PC to upload to the car (though you do need the PC to load the tune to the handheld). Seemed simpler to me since I didn't need to keep a laptop in the car in case I wanted to flash it on the road.

That said, I'd expect it costs about $100 per flash at the shop, so if you have to go back twice, that would pay for the tools directly, and let you swap flashes from stock to tuned, and vice versa whenever you please. I personally think it's worth getting the handheld or cable regardless of which tune you get (but I'm also no where near a shop, so this was my only option).

[Pidipompi]

Originally Posted by martinm0

I'm too new to offer insights into the tunes and they upgrade intervals. I bought mine from BPC back in April or May, so AA has come out with a new tune since then. I went BPC at the time due to the increased torque, and that their flashing tool is a standalone tool and does not need a PC to upload to the car (though you do need the PC to load the tune to the handheld). Seemed simpler to me since I didn't need to keep a laptop in the car in case I wanted to flash it on the road.

That said, I'd expect it costs about $100 per flash at the shop, so if you have to go back twice, that would pay for the tools directly, and let you swap flashes from stock to tuned, and vice versa whenever you please. I personally think it's worth getting the handheld or cable regardless of which tune you get (but I'm also no where near a shop, so this was my only option).

Hmmm well back to saving more money haha.
I'll probably drive to the shop and buy the tune and the tool.
Don't wanna mail them my ECU.

[martinm0]

Originally Posted by Pidipompi

Hmmm well back to saving more money haha.
I'll probably drive to the shop and buy the tune and the tool.
Don't wanna mail them my ECU.

No need to remove your ECU anymore. That's what these flashing tools are for!

[Pidipompi]

Originally Posted by martinm0

No need to remove your ECU anymore. That's what these flashing tools are for!

Stupid me haha wasn't thinking.
Very nooby at this.
So I don't even have to go to the shop correct?
Just the buy the tool online, AA emails me the tune, plug the tool in, and flash the ECU?

[martinm0]

Originally Posted by Pidipompi

Stupid me haha wasn't thinking.
Very nooby at this.
So I don't even have to go to the shop correct?
Just the buy the tool online, AA emails me the tune, plug the tool in, and flash the ECU?

Exactly. For BPC I had to pull a base file from my car once I got the handheld, send it off to them, and then later that day I got the tune file for my car sent back for me to upload to the handheld and then load to the car. I'm pretty sure AA does something similar.

[Pidipompi]

Originally Posted by martinm0

Exactly. For BPC I had to pull a base file from my car once I got the handheld, send it off to them, and then later that day I got the tune file for my car sent back for me to upload to the handheld and then load to the car. I'm pretty sure AA does something similar.

I was looking at BPC right now.
And just saw this

[Pidipompi]

Gotta find someone who can ship to CA .
Unless I go with the AA tune.

[hassmaschine]

it's a CYA. If you don't have headers, it should pass emissions just fine - however, if you have headers, then there's nothing AA, BPC or anyone else can (or should) do to bypass that.

[N52UNED]

Originally Posted by Pidipompi

I was looking at BPC right now.
And just saw this

... if you're only adding a tune it doesn't apply to you, unless you're planning on changing your exhaust system as well (ie. deleting cats, headers without cats, muffler delete, resonator delete, etc). As long as you keep your exhaust stock you should be good to go.

[martinm0]

Originally Posted by Pidipompi

Gotta find someone who can ship to CA .
Unless I go with the AA tune.

hassmachine is correct. BPC is just putting that out there to cover themselves. Unless you are bypassing O2s or running non-catted headers you will be fine. I think AA possibly does the same if you go for their O2 bypass tune.