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      03-30-2015, 03:06 PM   #111
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Yeah, because it's not like I don't own them and didn't install them myself or anything

After reading enough threads on here about peeps installing control arms upside down/backwards and not realizing that there are 3 different sized tires on their car for months, etc. usually the install process is the first thing to get brought into question.

Having said that, how in the fuk is anyone supposed to visualize a severe manufacturing defect like that and understand what you're trying to describe without pics or at least a better explanation (which was eventually provided)? It obviously isn't a common issue on the forums, or any where else, to have seen happen before. Out of hundreds of customers, it seems you two master mechanics were the only ones to have issues and STILL managed to continue on with the install process somehow; even with all the DIYs, pics available on the web, countless threads, etc.

At the end of the day, answers can only be as detailed as the original information provided
With all due respect, mine were installed by a shop that has more suspension work done then your post count here

As explained already, and I explained it well, I did my research after the fact, and in my defense no shop will go online to look for DIY, period.

If the shop doesn't know how to install my suspension why would I go there?
Additionally, all parts are assumed in good order out the box.

Another thing, a lot of times issues don't end up on the forum for you to be able to read it.

My comment wasn't addressed directly at you. Sorry if I came across that way.

We are all here to help each other.

Please don't get personal with master mechanics this and that.
Even car manufactures finish assembling cars with bad parts and then they have recalls.

We all depend on someone else quality control.

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      03-31-2015, 05:59 AM   #112
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Yeah, because it's not like I don't own them and didn't install them myself or anything

After reading enough threads on here about peeps installing control arms upside down/backwards and not realizing that there are 3 different sized tires on their car for months, etc. usually the install process is the first thing to get brought into question.

Having said that, how in the fuk is anyone supposed to visualize a severe manufacturing defect like that and understand what you're trying to describe without pics or at least a better explanation (which was eventually provided)? It obviously isn't a common issue on the forums, or any where else, to have seen happen before. Out of hundreds of customers, it seems you two master mechanics were the only ones to have issues and STILL managed to continue on with the install process somehow; even with all the DIYs, pics available on the web, countless threads, etc.

At the end of the day, answers can only be as detailed as the original information provided
Congrats on you owning them and installing them with no issues. So I guess that means all parts are made equally. Next time someone has an issue with a part, I can always sayd, " I own that same part and installed it with no issue, so you must not know what you are doing. Yes you are right I had no idea what I was doing even though Supreme Power were the ones who suggested how to fix the issue . Sorry If I am not skilled like you and had " the worst install job on the planet "
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      04-23-2015, 06:26 AM   #113
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So did you guys end up using the rubber gasket that's inside the perch or was that removed. I'm doing my this weekend and want to be ready
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So did you guys end up using the rubber gasket that's inside the perch or was that removed. I'm doing my this weekend and want to be ready
You are better off just trimming the arch off then installing the rubber on there.
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      04-23-2015, 08:46 AM   #115
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You are better off just trimming the arch off then installing the rubber on there.
I thought the spring sits inside the arch and is kinda planted in there so it doesn't move or shift around when turning the wheel and such
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I thought the spring sits inside the arch and is kinda planted in there so it doesn't move or shift around when turning the wheel and such
True, however some a built different than other and are known to create issues.
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True, however some a built different than other and are known to create issues.
Guess il have to open up the box and take a look at the perchs they sent me
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Maybe I missed the answer in this thread, but what are the downsides of using lowering perches vs lowering springs?
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      04-23-2015, 10:36 AM   #120
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Maybe I missed the answer in this thread, but what are the downsides of using lowering perches vs lowering springs?
Perches only lower .5 '' where springs go lower depending in the brand. If u install let's say hr and they advertise 1.2'' drop, installing the perch will give u another .5 making a total 1.7'' drop. On the stock suspension they lower the car .5 over stock
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Maybe I missed the answer in this thread, but what are the downsides of using lowering perches vs lowering springs?
Yes, potential problems with lowering perch due to the product itself, the installation, or potentially both.
However, if you are mechanically inclined, or have an experienced mechanic, installing the SP perch should not be a problem.
Combining SP perch with lowering springs according to me is bad idea since it will offer significant and for many unwanted drop and worse ride due to shorter strut shaft travel.
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      04-23-2015, 11:12 AM   #122
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By looking at the ones I got they are black and look exactly like the same ones in the first post
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not enough pics in this thread!

I am thinking about doing these in conjunction with Dinan Camber Plates to offset the slight amount that the camber plates raise the front.
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not enough pics in this thread!

I am thinking about doing these in conjunction with Dinan Camber Plates to offset the slight amount that the camber plates raise the front.
I'm pulling mine out this weekend and can take photos. Are you interested in any specifics? Mounted? Disassembled? Compared with stock?
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I'm pulling mine out this weekend and can take photos. Are you interested in any specifics? Mounted? Disassembled? Compared with stock?
Pics of cars with them installed!
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Pics of cars with them installed!
Not he best photos but nevertheless, here is mine contribution.
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I am thinking about doing these in conjunction with Dinan Camber Plates to offset the slight amount that the camber plates raise the front.
I hope you haven't done this yet, because I just did and the combo doesn't work. The flanges on the SP Perches are wider than the factory ones, and they rub on the inside of the tower wall with the added camber from the plates. I spent hundreds on the install only to have a knocking sound at low speeds. Now I have to decide if I want to grind down the flange, or shell out hundreds more for a different setup.
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I hope you haven't done this yet, because I just did and the combo doesn't work. The flanges on the SP Perches are wider than the factory ones, and they rub on the inside of the tower wall with the added camber from the plates. I spent hundreds on the install only to have a knocking sound at low speeds. Now I have to decide if I want to grind down the flange, or shell out hundreds more for a different setup.
the knocking sound at low speed is not from the SP perch hitting the strut tower wall. I would say is your strut mounts. What camber plates you have?
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I have o issues. Just like oem
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I have o issues. Just like oem
post some photos here
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the knocking sound at low speed is not from the SP perch hitting the strut tower wall. I would say is your strut mounts. What camber plates you have?
Dinan non-adjustable plates. I took it back to the shop and they said they put it all back together correctly, and can't rectify the knock.
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