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      02-14-2018, 10:45 PM   #67
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This is not the thread to get into this discussion but the sooner you remove that statement and belief from your lexicon, the better. It's a fallacy. I'll beg you not to stake the lives of those you love on such a thing.
You first as your example is a fallacy as well. Most home invasions arenít being done by ex special forces and if you start shooting more then likely all of them are going to run the other way whether you hit anyone or not.
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      02-14-2018, 10:47 PM   #68
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We all agree we have a mental health issues in this country.

We don’t agree on allowing these people easy access to extremely lethal weapons. I’ll gladly take on somebody with a knife etc instead of an AR style rifle or handgun with multiple high capacity magazines.
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      02-14-2018, 10:47 PM   #69
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On Valentine's Day too, what sadness. To think such evil demons corrupt this beautiful planet which was created for all of us to enjoy, just an overwhelming sense of sadness here.

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      02-15-2018, 01:54 AM   #70
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"Seventeen dead from punches" now there is a headline.
Homeless guy here in town punched a tourist. Tourist hit the concrete. Tourist died. Absolutely was headline news. Other stories are drunks attacking people minding their own business. A well placed punch to the dome can absolutely be deadly.
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      02-15-2018, 02:18 AM   #71
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I have no problem with the right to bear arms. But no one needs an AR.
THIS!

Unless you are a LEO or in the Military, you do not need nor should be allowed to own of purchase this weapon. It is manufactured specifically to kill multiple people in quick succession. Period. End of discussion.

Truly a sad and deplorable day in America that unfortunately will happen again until stricter gun laws are passed.
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      02-15-2018, 04:47 AM   #72
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this is crazy. what was the guy's motive? just crazy?
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      02-15-2018, 04:51 AM   #73
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THIS!

Unless you are a LEO or in the Military, you do not need nor should be allowed to own of purchase this weapon. It is manufactured specifically to kill multiple people in quick succession. Period. End of discussion.

Truly a sad and deplorable day in America that unfortunately will happen again until stricter gun laws are passed.
This is like saying that we need to fight failure to Indicate by banning all BMW's from the roads. Ridiculous logic. What do you think is going to happen if all AR15's suddenly disappear? There will be no more shootings? What do you think would happen if the perpetrator gets his hands on Glock17 or a 12 gauge?
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      02-15-2018, 05:16 AM   #74
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Very ignorant thing to say.

The more you ban guns in a state, the more the black market smugglers get richer. You cannot ban guns in every state in the usa, people smuggle around guns and drugs everyday. You're making it easier for people to get robbed, because since you banned legal arms, the ones that get theirs black market can now walk in anywhere and rob people or cause a mass shooting and people who were carrying can't do shit.

If you ban guns in a state, the price skyrockets for the smugglers.

Stop banning things, if someone uses a car and runs over a dozen people at an event, are we gonna start banning mustangs too now?

The problem lies within the people who have mental issues, people kill people. If someone wanted to kill lots of people, they'll find a way to do so. Whether it's buying a gun illegally or making a homemade bomb.

Yes this is the old circular argument. We need guns. To protect us from guns. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Let's be grown up about this. There is no solution. The genie is out of the bottle. America will not solve it's gun problem now. It's far too late. There are more guns than there are citizens. If you stop selling guns tomorrow, it will make no difference. It's too late. All you can do is keep managing the aftermath.

And to the desktop phychiatrists who have already diagnosed the shooter to be mentally ill. Bullshit. You may as well attempt to diagnose cancer by looking at him. It's merely a cheap shot to deflect attention from the real problem.
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      02-15-2018, 05:47 AM   #75
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This is like saying that we need to fight failure to Indicate by banning all BMW's from the roads. Ridiculous logic. What do you think is going to happen if all AR15's suddenly disappear? There will be no more shootings? What do you think would happen if the perpetrator gets his hands on Glock17 or a 12 gauge?
So, what then? More guns?
Gotta start somewhere...
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      02-15-2018, 08:02 AM   #76
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Its not guns who kill people, its people who kill people
Texas has a concealed carry law with a good part of the population packing heat
by the liberals argument then everyone should be dead or killing each other in Texas via guns yet thats not happening
argument on their side lost once again

it takes some wisdom to see the truth.. LOOK
simpleton solutions dont solve complex problems
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      02-15-2018, 08:03 AM   #77
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Its not guns who kill people, its people who kill people
Texas has a concealed carry law with a good part of the population packing heat
by the liberals argument then everyone should be dead or killing each other in Texas via guns yet thats not happening
argument on their side lost once again

it takes some wisdom to see the truth.. LOOK
simpleton solutions dont solve complex problems
No.

It's people that have access to guns that kill people.

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      02-15-2018, 08:06 AM   #78
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Yes this is the old circular argument. We need guns. To protect us from guns. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Let's be grown up about this. There is no solution. The genie is out of the bottle. America will not solve it's gun problem now. It's far too late. There are more guns than there are citizens. If you stop selling guns tomorrow, it will make no difference. It's too late. All you can do is keep managing the aftermath.

And to the desktop phychiatrists who have already diagnosed the shooter to be mentally ill. Bullshit. You may as well attempt to diagnose cancer by looking at him. It's merely a cheap shot to deflect attention from the real problem.
Yup because normal people go around shooting up schools. When everyone who knew the kid said that he had issues than I think itís a safe bet to make in saying that the kid probably had some psychiatric problems.
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      02-15-2018, 08:12 AM   #79
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Yup because normal people go around shooting up schools. When everyone who knew the kid said that he had issues than I think itís a safe bet to make in saying that the kid probably had some psychiatric problems.
So you're relying on unqualified diagnosis. Lots of kids have issues. That doesn't make them mass murderers. I understand it's far easier to blame mental health than address the real problem. Because the real proplem is far more frightening.
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No.

It's people that have access to guns that kill people.

Texas has concealed carry and thats access on a day to day basis carried
theyre not killing each other

when you have a person who wants to kill people psychiatric problems or not, theyll find a way if its not guns itll be something else
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Texas has concealed carry and thats access on a day to day basis carried
theyre not killing each other

when you have a person who wants to kill people, theyll find a way if its not guns itll be something else
The problem you have is that guns are extremely effective at killing many people is a very short period of time. As the numerous school shooting tragedies in the USA have shown
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The problem you have is that guns are extremely effective at killing many people is a very short period of time. As the numerous school shooting tragedies in the USA have shown
well so are bombs
never stopped the UK/US from droppin any

I trust in the protection our founding fathers gave in the 2nd amendment .. FULLY
are there tradeoffs yes but I accept them.. the world is not perfect and wont be in this kind of violent culture
you want to see real change?
change the culture
a boy with psych problems should be caringly cared for and resolved
better to not have him develope the problems in the first place via a more caring environment
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well so are bombs
never stopped the UK/US from droppin any

I trust in the protection our founding fathers gave in the 2nd amendment .. FULLY
are there tradeoffs yes but I accept them.. the world is not perfect and wont be in this kind of violent culture
I'm not aware of any school bombings in the US, only shootings?
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So you're relying on unqualified diagnosis. Lots of kids have issues. That doesn't make them mass murderers. I understand it's far easier to blame mental health than address the real problem. Because the real proplem is far more frightening.
are you implying that people who shoot a school may not have a psychiatric disorder?
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I'm not aware of any school bombings in the US, only shootings?
lets not give them any ideas ok? where theres a will thers a way
thats the point
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I'm not aware of any school bombings in the US, only shootings?
From aircraft no less right?

People love their guns here they donít care how many innocents are slaughtered.
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From aircraft no less right?

People love their guns here they donít care how many innocents are slaughtered.
yap away your nonsense
2nd amendment is here to stay
even the unwise are covered by the bill of rights thank God
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Nothing will change.. nothing changed after Las Vegas..
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