[martynz]

Hi, I bought a used car so not sure which maps are on. How do I check the maps? I have a ton of tools but which do I use?

The navigation asks for activation code straight away, so I can't see the version.

[opjose]

It sounds like your system is the older CIC due to the small screen. It may need a firmware update (search for that here and iLevel).

The head may have been transplanted from another car and navigation never properly enabled which may be why you are getting the FSV request at boot.

There are threads here about generating the FSC codes for transplanted head units here.

Also check this thread last post.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1700430

[bcoz]

Originally Posted by martynz

Hi, I bought a used car so not sure which maps are on. How do I check the maps? I have a ton of tools but which do I use?

The small screen CIC usually shipped with Business navigation (in AU & NZ). Try using a VIN Decoder to see what navigation option shipped with the car:

SA606 or S606A - Navigation System Business
SA609 or S609A - Navigation System Professional

Business nav uses MOTION maps, while Professional nav uses PREMIUM maps.

The navigation asks for activation code straight away, so I can't see the version.

A few suggestions to try:

1. Try manually Resetting the iDrive System: With ignition on, press and hold the Audio On/Volume button for 25 seconds. After 25 seconds, the control display goes blank as a confirmation that the CIC is being restarted.
2. If your iDrive controller has an OPTION button, try pressing OPTION to bypass the code request, then scroll down and look for "Navigation System Version" (or similar).

[martynz]

Thanks guys for your replies. But that would have been too ease, just to reboot the CIC.

Interesting point with the swapped unit. I checked the VIN and its a business unit. So all good here.

The main reason for asking to check the maps was to generate a FSC code. But you have to specify the correct installed map in the FSC generator to get the correct code. right?

I dug deeper and used TOOL32 on CIC to get the MAP status through status_mapmaterial_version which is Europe Motion 2014-1. I used the SWID_Reader to get my FSC File which I then used on the (older?) FSC generator by aknight720 which works with the FSC file and not the 1B file. That generated my Europ 2014-1 code.
It works now, but of course its all blue water as I am in NZ with a Europe map.

My main question now is, can I just try to update to NZ 2020 Move or Motion Map? Do I have to use a Motion map as the previous one is motion?

Would be good to know upfront as I have to purchase one for $50, as there are absolutely no downloads.

[bcoz]

Originally Posted by martynz

The main reason for asking to check the maps was to generate a FSC code. But you have to specify the correct installed map in the FSC generator to get the correct code. right?

You have to specify the same 'Map Type', which in your case is MOTION.

My main question now is, can I just try to update to NZ 2020 Move or Motion Map? Do I have to use a Motion map as the previous one is motion?

Yep, maps aren't interchangeable. As your Business nav is currently using Europe Motion 2014-1, you have to stick with MOTION maps (your system won't recognise PREMIUM or MOVE maps).

I'm assuming the FSC generator by aknight720 will also generate the correct FSC code for NZ 2020 maps.

[martynz]

Thank you for your help!

Unfortunately the FSC generator by aknight720 only has maps until 2015 so I am out of luck here. Could not find another updated version.

Still not sure why I can't generate the 1B file on my C1A firmware version now that I have activated.

[opjose]

Originally Posted by martynz

Thank you for your help!

Unfortunately the FSC generator by aknight720 only has maps until 2015 so I am out of luck here. Could not find another updated version.

Still not sure why I can't generate the 1B file on my C1A firmware version now that I have activated.

The script does not work with Motion AFAIK.

[martynz]

Can I just install a different map too? I have Europe 2014 now but I will install Australia/New Zealand Motion 2020?

[bcoz]

Originally Posted by martynz

Can I just install a different map too? I have Europe 2014 now but I will install Australia/New Zealand Motion 2020?

Originally Posted by martynz

I used the SWID_Reader to get my FSC File which I then used on the (older?) FSC generator by aknight720 which works with the FSC file and not the 1B file. That generated my Europ 2014-1 code.

Does the FSC generator by aknight720 generate a LIFETIME FSC code? If so, then that should work on other map upgrades.

Otherwise, I'm out of ideas.

[opjose]

Originally Posted by martynz

Can I just install a different map too? I have Europe 2014 now but I will install Australia/New Zealand Motion 2020?

You cannot install maps for other CIC versions.

E.g. you cannot install Motion maps on a Premium CIC and vice versa.

Likewise the 1B script is for CIC premium not Motion.

You may be able to get a new FSC code via an ecom cable or via an online vendor, for a newer map.

I would do the latter in your shoes.

[martynz]

Originally Posted by bcoz

Does the FSC generator by aknight720 generate a LIFETIME FSC code? If so, then that should work on other map upgrades.

Otherwise, I'm out of ideas.

So can I just install a different region map or do I have to change something prior to the update?

Yes, I have activated the Europe 2014-1 Motion map with a life time FSC.

[martynz]

Originally Posted by opjose

You cannot install maps for other CIC versions.

E.g. you cannot install Motion maps on a Premium CIC and vice versa.

Likewise the 1B script is for CIC premium not Motion.

You may be able to get a new FSC code via an ecom cable or via an online vendor, for a newer map.

I would do the latter in your shoes.

I have Europe 2014-1 Motion installed and need Australia/New Zealand 2020 Motion installed. I also have the Europe 2020 Motion which I could use to update first.

But what you are saying is that my CIC business with the motion map will never ever generate the 1B file a its only for the Premium version?

[opjose]

Correct.

The script only works for CIC Premium.

[martynz]

Thank you both for your help!!