[d3l0n]

So it seems like the best intake, based on theory, efficiency, effective end result/most reasonable boost is...

GruppeM??


This is what I gather from the threads... please any feedback highly appreciated.

[Not Ur Avg 3]

if u can get the REAL Gruppe M, that thats the real deal
u got urself the best intake for e90...i think sound and performance wise. although pricy, its the best

[ShinBalNom]

the "REAL" Gruppe M?? I wasn't aware of a "FAKE" one... Can you explain??

[Chesmu]

there is a gruppe M replica available on ebay.

[Dankim10]

yes, there is replica GruppeM intake. Please use search machine. You could find more information.

[Alpine]

So is the general answer to his question the GruppeM?

[just4kickz]

haha looks great, performs great, greatly reduces the $ in your wallet.

[ChineseGuy]

well....first of all.....define reasonable.....

really depends what 1000 dollars is worth in your life and how you see in spending money.....

if your rich or you don't really care much about money, then go with the GruppeM....cuz it's a well built intake.....

on the other hand.....

if you're not as wealthy or you treasure each penny you earn, then go with a simota or AFE

[d3l0n]

I guess I can take that answer.. that seems good.

[/I]

Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

well....first of all.....define reasonable.....

really depends what 1000 dollars is worth in your life and how you see in spending money.....

if your rich or you don't really care much about money, then go with the GruppeM....cuz it's a well built intake.....

on the other hand.....

if you're not as wealthy or you treasure each penny you earn, then go with a simota or AFE

[ChineseGuy]

just out of curiosity......which intake are you getting now?

[///M3NACE]

AFE is da best

[im0y]

Hi d3l0n,

I got the Gruppe-M replica from ebay and I can say that it's really excellent. I'm not having any problems with it whatsoever I got it from eBay for $350 (plus $90 shipping), but shoot him an offer for $300 and see if he bites

I don't have the original, but there are a e90post member who got both and he said that they are identical. So I don't see how you won't get the same gains as with the original I forgot the member's name, but you can go through this thread:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=gruppe

[d3l0n]

I simply have k&n.. right.. looking for a good boost. I think I am going to choose between AFE and the real GruppeM.

What's so.... "replica" about GruppeM Replica kit? It just looks like it?

[Not Ur Avg 3]

i really dont know 2 much about the replica, but i heard it sounds/performs just as the original from some member as well
so i dont really get y ppl still get the real thing, there must be a reason why, i wanna kno wat it is

[ChineseGuy]

Originally Posted by Not Ur Avg 3

i really dont know 2 much about the replica, but i heard it sounds/performs just as the original from some member as well
so i dont really get y ppl still get the real thing, there must be a reason why, i wanna kno wat it is

warranty probably?

and that since it's Authentic, there's more support when something happens to it....and that people trust it to not HARM your car.....

since no 1 here can prove that the replica GruppeM is 100% safe...

[ctgazer]

*dreaming/fists clenched*

someone say fujita...someone say fujita...someone say fujita

[ChineseGuy]

fujita

ur wish has been granted

[ScheerSpeed]

i have a fujita it isnt that bad! it sounds pretty good

[im0y]

Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

warranty probably?

and that since it's Authentic, there's more support when something happens to it....and that people trust it to not HARM your car.....

since no 1 here can prove that the replica GruppeM is 100% safe...

I've been driving with the GruppeM replica for several hunderd miles now (I got it last month) and I'm not having any problems whatsoever

I don't know how else to prove it. It even uses the same original K&N filter as the authentic GruppeM

Man everytime I enter one of these post, I tell myself, that eBay dude should be giving me some money :mad:

[aapriadi]

if i'm not wrong, the real gruppe m has 2 extra air inlets located behind the kidney grills...ksfrogman and im0y, please confirm this (ksfrogman has the real gruppe m)
the next best intake imo might be simota or dinan
hope this helps

[Dankim10]

Originally Posted by aapriadi

if i'm not wrong, the real gruppe m has 2 extra air inlets located behind the kidney grills...ksfrogman and im0y, please confirm this (ksfrogman has the real gruppe m)
the next best intake imo might be simota or dinan
hope this helps

I also have real gruppeM intake and I checked with zzinco79 who has replica gruppeM intake). As I talked to him, the kit is exactly same.

[ksfrogman]

Originally Posted by aapriadi

if i'm not wrong, the real gruppe m has 2 extra air inlets located behind the kidney grills...ksfrogman and im0y, please confirm this (ksfrogman has the real gruppe m)
the next best intake imo might be simota or dinan
hope this helps

I didn't want to jump on the this-intake-is-better-than-that-intake bandwagon. I can only comment on the methodology I used to test the original GruppeM intake.

This past summer, I had taken my 330i to Technik to have it dyno tested. In stock form, 3 pulls on Style 162 wheels yield a max wHP of around 211.93 wHP, and 193.20 lbs-ft of torque.

Then I installed the larger diameter Work VS-XX wheels (19x10), and dyno tested the car again on a separate day. This time, max wHP was 210.37 with 192.75 lbs-ft of torque. We kept the 330i strapped into the dyno, and I swapped out the stock airbox with the GruppeM intake. About half an hour later, we re-dyno'd the car. It showed 215.87 wHP and 200.20 ft-lbs torque.

As far as I am concerned, no one can really comment on any other intake, save perhaps RichP (?), unless they have actually done any pre- and post- dynos at the wheel under controlled circumstances.

It's also important to realize that dyno testing in the environment of a shop may not accurately reflect what actually happens on the street with the hood down, wind velocity changes, etc.

I don't have the GruppeM replica, but from what I can tell in the pictures, the difference may be in the CF pattern, the leading edge of the intake (behind the radiator) as it very closely follows the contours of the engine compartment, and of course, the officially stamped and numbered GruppeM emblem. Is this worth a few extra hundreds? Only the buyer can answer that question. Personally, I think we all are a little eccentric when it comes to cars; otherwise, we wouldn't be posting in here. I do feel we are a funny bunch when it comes to performance mods though. The addition of aftermarket intakes and exhausts on normally aspirated cars will not provide our vehicles with tremendous performance gains. Keep in mind though that we are willing to spend thousands of dollars on wheels and body mods that do little for performance. Yet when it comes to aftermarket performance items, people would rather spend money on items that "look nice," than on things that perform well.

So, what is better? We don't have all the objective data. If we did, then you would have to consider your priorities. Mine are:

Performance > Looks > Cost

What I mostly see in this forum is:

Cost > Looks > Performance