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[gavronm]

What are people running, wheel, offset, and spacer wise, to run 17X9 square, other than the Apex Arc-8? I'm looking for lower cost options mainly for track use. According to tire rack there is no 17X9 option for our car but if you run searches on some one series you get a bunch of options. Tirerack says these don't clear the brakes on our car but if I'm going to run spacers anyway I'm thinking they will. Can anyone confirm fitment of these or other options when run with spacers?

Kosei K5R and K8R are both available in 17X9 et 45, $199,~17lbs

TRMotorsport FF10 in 17X9 et 45, $177, 17.8 lbs

If you're OK with 17X8.5, which I might be, you can do TRMotorsport C2, with a 40 offset for only $145 and 19lbs.

Obviously Kosei K1s are an option at 8.5 but I'm curious what else is out there.

[Ruddigger]

I have also been looking for 17x9 alternatives. Apex's are nice, but they look just like every other rim that everybody has.

[UPWheels]

We've noticed other members running 9" wide wheels up front with offsets between ET31-33.

The ET40 8.5" would fit also.

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[dinkyrdj]

I'm curious about this as well! The Apex wheels look good but other options are always nice.

[ApexWheels]

OP, it sounds like you are looking for a lower cost option, but may not be aware that we are running a 17" ARC-8 Group Buy at the moment. I completely understand if a customer wants to go in another direction for various reasons, but I would hate to loose a customer who appreciates our quality but cannot afford the MSRP price points.

The 17x9 et30 is a direct fit, which does not require spacers. Furthermore there are many factors that go into brake clearance, some of which which spacers cannot solve (barrel clearance).

I hope this helps

- Ryan

[jlcf22]

I bought some 17's from another brand and they didn't clear the caliper so I had to return them make sure they clear the calipers before purchase

[gavronm]

Originally Posted by ApexRaceParts

OP, it sounds like you are looking for a lower cost option, but may not be aware that we are running a 17" ARC-8 Group Buy at the moment. I completely understand if a customer wants to go in another direction for various reasons, but I would hate to loose a customer who appreciates our quality but cannot afford the MSRP price points.

The 17x9 et30 is a direct fit, which does not require spacers. Furthermore there are many factors that go into brake clearance, some of which which spacers cannot solve (barrel clearance).

I hope this helps

- Ryan

I certainly appreciate your quality, and hope to own a set of Arc-8s someday, but I'm just looking for a sub $1200 wheel/tire combo for the 4-8 track days I hope to do this coming summer. Even with your group buy pricing I'm looking at $906 for wheels alone. Maybe next year, or the year after, or the year after...

Kids and all.

[ApexWheels]

Originally Posted by gavronm

I certainly appreciate your quality, and hope to own a set of Arc-8s someday, but I'm just looking for a sub $1200 wheel/tire combo for the 4-8 track days I hope to do this coming summer. Even with your group buy pricing I'm looking at $906 for wheels alone. Maybe next year, or the year after, or the year after...

Kids and all.

As a new parent myself, I completely understand. Just wanted to clear up any pricing questions, goodluck with your search sir

- Ryan

[Stucks]

Originally Posted by gavronm

I certainly appreciate your quality, and hope to own a set of Arc-8s someday, but I'm just looking for a sub $1200 wheel/tire combo for the 4-8 track days I hope to do this coming summer. Even with your group buy pricing I'm looking at $906 for wheels alone. Maybe next year, or the year after, or the year after...

Kids and all.

kosei k1s are 17x8.5 and very light. cheap too...they would def be within your budget....but beware....i have seen many threads about spokes cracking. some people run them and are fine, others run them and have issues with cracks.

Originally Posted by gavronm

I certainly appreciate your quality, and hope to own a set of Arc-8s someday, but I'm just looking for a sub $1200 wheel/tire combo for the 4-8 track days I hope to do this coming summer. Even with your group buy pricing I'm looking at $906 for wheels alone. Maybe next year, or the year after, or the year after...

Kids and all.

If that's the case then you should be shopping used. ~$900 for a NEW set of 17x9 light/strong wheels that clear our brakes is pretty much everything you could ask for. Trying to save a couple bucks by cross shopping probably isn't worth it.

CN: enjoy your time on Craigslist

[gavronm]

Originally Posted by FCobra94

If that's the case then you should be shopping used.

That's mostly what I'm doing. The point is to identify things that work and then try to find a good deal. I made this post after finding a great deal on a set of used C2s but wasn't sure about fitment. Turns out they don't clear the brakes.

Here's what I've learned about the options listed above (primarily from the guys at tirerack, who are awesome):

C2 and FF10 - don't clear caliper

K5R fits with 18mm piloted spacer

On the OEM side I've identified the options below. Many of the 17X9s also come in a 22 offset but that's probably not going to work on the front. Most of the really interesting ones didn't come as square sets to begin with, and only a handful of these are confirmed to clear our brakes. Center bores would also need to be confirmed. A square set of high offset style 19s look intriguing and the centerbores should be correct. I thought I'd found a set nearby but they were 8X17 fronts.

(I'm not going to take the time to create a pretty table but each line below is the style, then the weight in kilograms, then the offset. Two numbers with a slash just means there are two versions, a low offset and a high offset)

17X9
style weight (kg) offset
10 ? 26
14 ? 26
16 11.92 26
18 12.18 26
19 9.6 26
20 ? 26
21 ? 26
32 ? 26
38 10.86 26
66 10.55 26

17X8.5
style weight offset
18 12
23 10.65 41
24 9.48 41
32 9.9 41
38 10.43 41
39 10.39 41
68 9.92 50
71 9.92/9.12 41/50
78 10.7 41
85 ? ?
86 ? ?
97 ? ?
161 10.2 37
188 10.7 37
194 10.7 37
286 10.7 39
292 12.02 40
340 11.7 37
395 11 47

Data above collected from www.bmwstylewheels.com

[Ruddigger]

Seems like Apex has this market cornered.

[gavronm]

Originally Posted by Ruddigger

Seems like Apex has this market cornered.

Ha! No S#!T, right?

And now they're putting out feelers for 17X9.5 and 17X10.

[harendre7201]

Originally Posted by gavronm

Ha! No S#!T, right?

And now they're putting out feelers for 17X9.5 and 17X10.

Lol I run their 17x9.5 square and they are just great IMHO I think you have to sacrifice alittle bit of wheel build quality and integrity when reach below that price point

[Ruddigger]

I almost gave in to the group buy, but a square 17x9 set is still 1000 after tax. I'll hold out for a used set, I guess.

[jazredgt]

Originally Posted by gavronm

What are people running, wheel, offset, and spacer wise, to run 17X9 square, other than the Apex Arc-8? I'm looking for lower cost options mainly for track use. According to tire rack there is no 17X9 option for our car but if you run searches on some one series you get a bunch of options. Tirerack says these don't clear the brakes on our car but if I'm going to run spacers anyway I'm thinking they will. Can anyone confirm fitment of these or other options when run with spacers?

Kosei K5R and K8R are both available in 17X9 et 45, $199,~17lbs

TRMotorsport FF10 in 17X9 et 45, $177, 17.8 lbs

If you're OK with 17X8.5, which I might be, you can do TRMotorsport C2, with a 40 offset for only $145 and 19lbs.

Obviously Kosei K1s are an option at 8.5 but I'm curious what else is out there.

Did you ever go with the Kosei K5R? I have a local selling a set with the et 45

[gavronm]

Originally Posted by jazredgt

Did you ever go with the Kosei K5R? I have a local selling a set with the et 45

I did not - ended up getting a set of used K1s that went on sale locally.

[jazredgt]

I bought the set I posted. Used a hub centric ring on them and they work perfect with a 275 tire.