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      06-24-2021, 06:23 PM   #89
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the car rides very well 0-60 what can be done to achieve the same results or get closer to it ?
I am not sure if it is accurately 5.3 seconds, because the gps app is starts at different times, but mostly It goes 5.8-6.2 Seconds usually.
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      06-27-2021, 02:48 AM   #90
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On a completely stock engine, maybe a little, but it's not going to be +30hp or anything. The best part of a full tune is for improved driving characteristics (better responsiveness, no soft limiter, better torque, etc). and maybe another 5-10hp



could you help me with setting up the car to raise the power a little?
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      06-27-2021, 10:47 AM   #91
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On a completely stock engine, maybe a little, but it's not going to be +30hp or anything. The best part of a full tune is for improved driving characteristics (better responsiveness, no soft limiter, better torque, etc). and maybe another 5-10hp



could you help me with setting up the car to raise the power a little?
Hass is busy at hell.. you can create an account at Bimmerlabs and create a project for the 3 stage intake manifold then it will give you a couple free tunes which will wake the car up..

There are a few companies that will remote in and do the coding/tune work for you
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      06-27-2021, 12:16 PM   #92
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could you help me with setting up the car to raise the power a little?
there's a giant thread in the NA engine section that will answer every question you ever had.
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      06-29-2021, 03:11 AM   #93
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I read on the forum that you can put a European iat I have a Maf that this will add power. i created an account at bimerlabs not found a setting for a euro iat. i am from russia and speak very bad english and use a translator thank you for understanding.
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I read on the forum that you can put a European iat I have a Maf that this will add power. i created an account at bimerlabs not found a setting for a euro iat. i am from russia and speak very bad english and use a translator thank you for understanding.
I believe if you have MSV70 the MAFless file is not available in the website. The difference is a bit noticeable over stock but nothing crazy. Better to just get a custom performance tune after you get catless headers and MILVs
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      06-29-2021, 09:11 AM   #95
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I already have an exhaust without a cat. We don't have a dino to adjust individually.
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      06-29-2021, 09:12 AM   #96
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I have spent 5 days reading a lot of information received only now I would like to adjust my car I want to improve the gas pedal response I do not know how to do this can anyone suggest?
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      06-29-2021, 05:25 PM   #97
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I already have an exhaust without a cat. We don't have a dino to adjust individually.

the bimmerlabs stuff is based on stock firmware and isn't going to be the most benefit for a catless setup.

call stagefp.
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I do not know how to do it if you give me a link I would be very grateful
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      06-30-2021, 11:35 AM   #99
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I do not know how to do it if you give me a link I would be very grateful
I would recommend Googling stagefp and going from there.

There’s no free lunch here. While hassmaschine’s stuff is amazing, if you’re looking to squeeze every bit of performance out of your engine you’ll need to spend cash, plain and simple. There’s no way to unlock additional power through simple coding, and anyone who says there is doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

There’s a ton of info on the NA sub-forum man… There’s not a list of steps or a link that anyone can provide to answer your question.

Search the board for Biginboca’s 328 build if you want more info on how to modify the N52 for maximum performance, but be warned: You will be filled with envy when you see his car
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I can custom tune too, but I don't need any more work at this time.
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I would recommend Googling stagefp and going from there.

There’s no free lunch here. While hassmaschine’s stuff is amazing, if you’re looking to squeeze every bit of performance out of your engine you’ll need to spend cash, plain and simple. There’s no way to unlock additional power through simple coding, and anyone who says there is doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

There’s a ton of info on the NA sub-forum man… There’s not a list of steps or a link that anyone can provide to answer your question.

Search the board for Biginboca’s 328 build if you want more info on how to modify the N52 for maximum performance, but be warned: You will be filled with envy when you see his car

Thanks, I'll be watching

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I can custom tune too, but I don't need any more work at this time.
I would like you to give me some tips here as I own a n52. what exactly does stagefp give me about this tune ?Thanks for the answers
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      07-01-2021, 07:34 AM   #103
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I would like you to give me some tips here as I own a n52. what exactly does stagefp give me about this tune ?Thanks for the answers
Contact StageFP and they will give you the answers.
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      07-02-2021, 04:56 AM   #104
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Some seriously good info in this thread

On the topic of MAF vs MAF-less tunes, there are interesting facts i have compiled from research. According to wiki, the most powerful version of the N52 engine makes 268hp and is installed in:
E92/93 330i
E63/64 630i
X3 E83 LCI 3.0si
X5 E70 3.0si

Despite the fact that in all 4 models the engine is rated at 268hp/315nm torque, the first two use IAT, while the last 2 use MAF. I highly doubt this is just because the IAT is a lot less restrictive, hence there must have been some performance reason why BMW decided to put it into the non-SUV. It would be very interesting to see back to back dyno curves and 0-60 runs of the same car with MAF tune, MAF-less tune but keeping the MAF sensor (only use the IAT part of it) and the same MAF-less tune but using the less restrictive factory euro IAT. That should give a lot of details on MAF vs MAF-less pros and cons, but doubt somebody has ever done it.
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      03-01-2024, 08:01 PM   #105
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any chance bimmerlabs is still functional? I can't seem to access the website. If not, can anyone confirm a zusb for a MAF version with 3sim? digging through kmm_ATSH.txt is time consuming and mind numbing.
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Welp, easier than I thought. In v68 daten, E70 X5 3.0si, type FE43, uses zusb 7623444 for msv80. 7602220.0pa and 7623445.0da
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I've never experienced it myself. but the MSV80 DME is a little different. There might be some cold start maps that neeed bumped up a bit. But I don't know anyone local with a 328i to test that with.
Hey are you still looking for someone with a 328i MSV80? Where are you located? I own a 2009 328i e92. 3sim, aFe Power Magnum 5R Pro Oiled CAI, IAT, 328i/330i tune, Dinan HP Coils. I'm in Barstow, CA. Let me know.
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      03-02-2024, 10:31 AM   #108
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Welp, easier than I thought. In v68 daten, E70 X5 3.0si, type FE43, uses zusb 7623444 for msv80. 7602220.0pa and 7623445.0da
So you're using a 3SIM on a 328 flashed with the above ZUSB? Any issues? Are you auto or manual? Any difference in ZUSB there?
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So you're using a 3SIM on a 328 flashed with the above ZUSB? Any issues? Are you auto or manual? Any difference in ZUSB there?
128, but 3sim not yet installed. Gathering details and making sure I have all the files in order and waiting on new manifold gaskets and catch-can parts. Will confirm if it works, also doing a transmission flash for the crap GM.
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128, but 3sim not yet installed. Gathering details and making sure I have all the files in order and waiting on new manifold gaskets and catch-can parts. Will confirm if it works, also doing a transmission flash for the crap GM.
Ok so the ZUSB numbers you posted are for the auto versions. Any idea what the manual equivalents are?
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