What are the benefits of X Drive?

CrimsonIvy35i · 02-10-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by reprod

^^^ Hence me... e92 335xi with KW v1 during the blizzard with people looking at me like I'm an idiot in their SUVs... Can't help but smirk. Best feeling in the world.

Get the xi + some coils... you will not regret...

Hahahaha wow! So does it pull good in the snow? did you put winters on the 18"?

markinva · 02-10-2010, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

More expensive, increased weight, decreased performance...

That all applies to air conditioning too. Focus on the negatives only much? Although I would say decreased performance is very debatable.

Noc57 · 02-10-2010, 09:31 PM

Benefits? Well you get the suspension of a truck if that's what you want. (Enjoy off-roading?)

I'd take a RWD 335i over a 335xi with coils any day of the week.

CrimsonIvy35i · 02-10-2010, 09:32 PM

In what ways may it decrease performance? Maybe the car was engineered to be rear wheel drive, and maybe it would have a better weight distribution balance, but I think it's still a well balanced car, no?

Noc57 · 02-10-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Silent&Humble

In what ways may it decrease performance? Maybe the car was engineered to be rear wheel drive, and maybe it would have a better weight distribution balance, but I think it's still a well balanced car, no?

RWD bimmer> AWD bimmer......well from a "fun" perspective. If you don't live in the snow, I would think the choice would be obvious.

Leave Audi for their LED's and AWD...

brinkmann · 02-10-2010, 09:38 PM

xDrive makes you cool. Certainly a lot cooler than someone without xDrive. End of story.

JerzeySux · 02-10-2010, 09:49 PM

Pros:
AWD
xi+snow tires= tank
Faster acceleration from a stop.
from a dead stop car is so easy to launch with little effort especially with a tune.
Rain doesnt affect the car at all. Drives great with AWD in rain
AWD + traction off + snow = madness fun

Cons:
Slower than i's on rolling speed.
Less fun since no wheel slips on accerleration
Less fun in handling due to not feeling the ass of the car kick in while turning
Heavier so feels a bit slower
rides a bit higher can feel more body roll when changing lanes at higher speed.

I really like my xi with a tune alot more than a 335i for daily driving but sometimes when going all out for performance and etc in highways in mexico i do want the RWD SOMETIMES.

JerzeySux · 02-10-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Noc57

Benefits? Well you get the suspension of a truck if that's what you want. (Enjoy off-roading?)

I'd take a RWD 335i over a 335xi with coils any day of the week.

You would be a fool to drive a XI where you live in Florida so it doesnt really count lol. And xi's do look a bit higher but overall isnt much difference.

But if you lived in Canada i bet you would get the 335xi w coils over the 335 RWD any day of the week.

TwinTurboXI · 02-10-2010, 10:28 PM

The xi does amazing in the snow.

Dan in PA · 02-10-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JerzeySux

Rain doesnt affect the car at all. Drives great with AWD in rain
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It never affects my RWD cars either, not even very heavy rain with flooding on the road. Even with RFTs...

JerzeySux · 02-10-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan in PA

It never affects my RWD cars either, not even very heavy rain with flooding on the road. Even with RFTs...

Off course you're not suppose to drive aggressivly in the rain but i can do that on a xi with no real effects compared to the i models where the rear would slip and tend to fish tail a bit.
What i mean is that Xi's are bit more stable and grips better in the rain at harder driving VS the i's. Just how the i's will grip lighter and pull faster on dry pavements VS the xi's.

Nikolas · 02-10-2010, 10:53 PM

XI is heavier and the suspension is not the greatest. Those are the only real downsides. Gas mileage difference is minimal at best. It is quicker 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile stock as recently tested by C&D. RWD is more sporty and fun. XI is much less likely to leave you stuck in snow.

If you need AWD get it, if you don't...........don't.

Dan in PA · 02-10-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JerzeySux

Off course you're not suppose to drive aggressivly in the rain but i can do that on a xi with no real effects compared to the i models where the rear would slip and tend to fish tail a bit.
What i mean is that Xi's are bit more stable and grips better in the rain at harder driving VS the i's. Just how the i's will grip lighter and pull faster on dry pavements VS the xi's.

Ahh okay, I see what you mean now.

NightStalker · 02-10-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by brinkmann

xDrive makes you cool. Certainly a lot cooler than someone without xDrive. End of story.

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Originally Posted by JerzeySux

Pros:
AWD
xi+snow tires= tank
Faster acceleration from a stop.
from a dead stop car is so easy to launch with little effort especially with a tune.
Rain doesnt affect the car at all. Drives great with AWD in rain
AWD + traction off + snow = madness fun

Cons:
Slower than i's on rolling speed.
Less fun since no wheel slips on accerleration
Less fun in handling due to not feeling the ass of the car kick in while turning
Heavier so feels a bit slower
rides a bit higher can feel more body roll when changing lanes at higher speed.

I really like my xi with a tune alot more than a 335i for daily driving but sometimes when going all out for performance and etc in highways in mexico i do want the RWD SOMETIMES.

there you go hehe

CrimsonIvy35i · 02-11-2010, 12:15 AM

Thanks guys. I wish there was some sort of springs which make the car look just like the OEM sports suspension.

CrimsonIvy35i · 02-11-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brinkmann

xDrive makes you cool. Certainly a lot cooler than someone without xDrive. End of story.

LOL...great answer...

not

JerzeySux · 02-11-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent&Humble

Thanks guys. I wish there was some sort of springs which make the car look just like the OEM sports suspension.

KW v1 or v3 will make it look better and handle better. Its just that they cost $1g~$2g

I've seen xi's with springs as well Eibach or H & R's and they look better than stock but heard rides a bit rough.

Dan in PA · 02-11-2010, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JerzeySux

KW v1 or v3 will make it look better and handle better. Its just that they cost $1g~$2g

I've seen xi's with springs as well Eibach or H & R's and they look better than stock but heard rides a bit rough.

Isn't there an issue where the rear can't be lowered as much as the front or something?

EDIT: I was talking about the rake issue.

MrDummy · 02-11-2010, 06:09 AM

If you drive in a snowy state which you must if your location is correct then the awd is a godsend. I was passing 4 x 4 trucks that were still spinning.

Outlaw 06 · 02-11-2010, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by markinva

xDrive.... yeah it's pretty much been a million times better than any rwd car would be this winter.

So glad I got xDrive, it's not even funny. Better performance on wet roads, rough roads.... roads I drive on all the time.

I live in New England and own three RWD BMWs. A good set of snow tires is all I need during the few days of poor driving conditions each winter. RWD is clearly superior the other 350 days of the year...

tgb1974 · 02-11-2010, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDummy

If you drive in a snowy state which you must if your location is correct then the awd is a godsend. I was passing 4 x 4 trucks that were still spinning.

I live in Chicago -- where we are quite familiar with heavy snowfall, black ice and the like -- and I completely agree with this and similar comments. The xDrive gives you all the best of an RWD BMW with the practicality of AWD for less than ideal conditions. Those of you who clown it because it's heavier, doesn't drive precisely, exactly like an RWD and does not possess all of the benefits of an RWD car are, respectfully, stating the obvious AND missing the point. You either need AWD or you do not.

John 070 · 02-11-2010, 06:45 AM

What's funny about this thread is a) it's been beaten to death so nothing new is gained by it b) it doesn't seem to acknowledge that everyone's needs are different

If you can afford to drive your 3 only when the weather is good, or you live in an area where the weather is always free of snow, isn't an i the obvious choice?

If you need to drive your 3 daily, and there is frequently bad weather, you may want to pay the extra $$$ for a x-drive.

Most of the other things are facts and objective, not a matter of opinion, such as different suspension, added weight, lower mpgs.

I drove a E92 328 x-drive steptronic, and the mileage was worse than my 335 6-man. That's my personal experience. The 328 had zero miles when it was loaned to me, so who knows. I do know when my 335 was brand-new, the mileage did not improve as it got broken-in, it was what it was, and still is: the same, even after a software upgrade.

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Noc57 Lieutenant Colonel 74 Rep 1,859 Posts Drives: e92 335 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Orlando, FL iTrader: (0)	Benefits? Well you get the suspension of a truck if that's what you want. (Enjoy off-roading?) I'd take a RWD 335i over a 335xi with coils any day of the week. __________________
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CrimsonIvy35i Captain 48 Rep 675 Posts Drives: X6 M Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Central America iTrader: (0)	In what ways may it decrease performance? Maybe the car was engineered to be rear wheel drive, and maybe it would have a better weight distribution balance, but I think it's still a well balanced car, no?
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brinkmann Major 317 Rep 1,364 Posts Drives: 2023 M4 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Northern Virginia iTrader: (18)	xDrive makes you cool. Certainly a lot cooler than someone without xDrive. End of story. __________________
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JerzeySux UrMother 37 Rep 639 Posts Drives: 335xiE92 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (7)	Pros: AWD xi+snow tires= tank Faster acceleration from a stop. from a dead stop car is so easy to launch with little effort especially with a tune. Rain doesnt affect the car at all. Drives great with AWD in rain AWD + traction off + snow = madness fun Cons: Slower than i's on rolling speed. Less fun since no wheel slips on accerleration Less fun in handling due to not feeling the ass of the car kick in while turning Heavier so feels a bit slower rides a bit higher can feel more body roll when changing lanes at higher speed. I really like my xi with a tune alot more than a 335i for daily driving but sometimes when going all out for performance and etc in highways in mexico i do want the RWD SOMETIMES. __________________ My Car drives on Sour Diesel and Haze. Dutch and Green Palma's for Octane Boost Poor Man's BMW Owner.
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TwinTurboXI Lieutenant Colonel 160 Rep 1,523 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . iTrader: (12)	The xi does amazing in the snow.
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Nikolas Colonel 313 Rep 2,576 Posts Drives: 996 TT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sierra Mountains iTrader: (0)	XI is heavier and the suspension is not the greatest. Those are the only real downsides. Gas mileage difference is minimal at best. It is quicker 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile stock as recently tested by C&D. RWD is more sporty and fun. XI is much less likely to leave you stuck in snow. If you need AWD get it, if you don't...........don't.
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CrimsonIvy35i Captain 48 Rep 675 Posts Drives: X6 M Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Central America iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys. I wish there was some sort of springs which make the car look just like the OEM sports suspension.
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John 070 Lieutenant General 1705 Rep 14,829 Posts Drives: 335i cpe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ZSP/ZPP/ZCW iTrader: (0)	What's funny about this thread is a) it's been beaten to death so nothing new is gained by it b) it doesn't seem to acknowledge that everyone's needs are different If you can afford to drive your 3 only when the weather is good, or you live in an area where the weather is always free of snow, isn't an i the obvious choice? If you need to drive your 3 daily, and there is frequently bad weather, you may want to pay the extra $$$ for a x-drive. Most of the other things are facts and objective, not a matter of opinion, such as different suspension, added weight, lower mpgs. I drove a E92 328 x-drive steptronic, and the mileage was worse than my 335 6-man. That's my personal experience. The 328 had zero miles when it was loaned to me, so who knows. I do know when my 335 was brand-new, the mileage did not improve as it got broken-in, it was what it was, and still is: the same, even after a software upgrade.
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