Eisenmann + remap on 320d?

ChrisMWard · 07-05-2007, 01:07 PM

Complete combustion is a problem with diesel engines. Because of the slow burning characteristics, if you inject too much fuel too soon you will lose power and efficiency, not enough and you don't make power.

With petrol engines the key to power is to get them to consume more air, with a diesel engine it's to consume more fuel (efficiently).

Regards

Chris

Patman · 07-13-2007, 04:41 AM

Hey AK,

i will drive on August 1st to kempower with my E91 320d.

if you have interest in the result, i can send you my impressions ...

AK · 07-13-2007, 04:47 AM

Yes please, that would be great!
Thanks!

Patman · 08-02-2007, 02:23 AM

here is mine ..

I did not drive a lot, but the torque is HUGE, quite UNBELIEVABLE ...
6th gear, highway, the torque which comes is something.

Jan from KemPower told me 4 hours to do it, he took only 1h30 !?

Nice car NOW

P.S. : the number are not as high tahn on kempower's website because of FUEL. I fuelled by TOTAL, which is THE WORST !!! Of course, i choose one, and it's th worst !? Everybody in Belgium told me, and Jan too, JET fuiel company, but with about 800-1000km is 4 days in that country i only saw 1 JET station, and on the road to KemPower after i "tanked" 2 days before

remmib · 08-02-2007, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patman

here is mine ..

I did not drive a lot, but the torque is HUGE, quite UNBELIEVABLE ...
6th gear, highway, the torque which comes is something.

Jan from KemPower told me 4 hours to do it, he took only 1h30 !?

Nice car NOW

P.S. : the number are not as high tahn on kempower's website because of FUEL. I fuelled by TOTAL, which is THE WORST !!! Of course, i choose one, and it's th worst !? Everybody in Belgium told me, and Jan too, JET fuiel company, but with about 800-1000km is 4 days in that country i only saw 1 JET station, and on the road to KemPower after i "tanked" 2 days before

Wow what an improvment :rocks:

Patman · 08-02-2007, 06:28 AM

heheeee

sorry to repost something which has being written some times, but everybody who has a 320d should do this (and other engines too

).

The improvment is HUGE

330cdsport · 08-02-2007, 06:40 AM

A tuning box also works very well with the 2.0d 163hp engine. Takes it up to about 200bhp and 400Nm.
It totally transformed my wifes 120d without loosing any of the smoothness.

Its also transferrable too

AK · 08-02-2007, 06:46 AM

Great! Thanks Patman!
How many km´s has your car gone?

Patman · 08-02-2007, 07:40 AM

it's now about 34'000km, bought in June 2006

Cafe.Racer · 08-02-2007, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 330cdsport

A tuning box also works very well with the 2.0d 163hp engine. Takes it up to about 200bhp and 400Nm.
It totally transformed my wifes 120d without loosing any of the smoothness.

Its also transferrable too

Which one have you got?

330cdsport · 08-02-2007, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cafe.Racer

Which one have you got?

Its an original tuning box from www.tuningbox.com

I think it cost about £280 a couple of years ago.

Takes literally 2 mins to remove/install, which I do before any dealer visits.

The car feels so lifeless without it.

ChrisMWard · 08-03-2007, 04:34 AM

Why not go for the BMW Motorsport kit, 245BHP and 410Nm. The engine obviously revs higher as the torque isn't significantly increased over standard.

OK I know it's just a bit on the expensive side.

Regards

AK · 08-03-2007, 09:44 AM

What kit is that?

Patman · 08-03-2007, 09:49 AM

perhaps the one which they are using in the WTCC ...

isn't it a joke, like "buy a new race engine" ?

ChrisMWard · 08-03-2007, 06:13 PM

It's no joke.

It was originally produced for the 120d race car (like the one that won the diesel class in the recent 24hr Nurburgring race).

BMW spec.

Engine
Engine type: four-cylinder inline diesel
Displacement: 1,995 cc
Peak torque 450 Nm at 3,000 rpm
Peak output: approx. 245 bhp at approx. 4,200 rpm
Max engine speed: 5,000 rpm
Cylinder block: grey-cast
Engine control: DDE6.0

Regards

Chris

Patman · 08-04-2007, 05:56 AM

and the price ?

that should be the not laughy joke

AK · 08-04-2007, 09:35 AM

Probably not just a remap, but that´s pretty amazing!
Yes what´s the price?

- Paul - · 08-04-2007, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 330cdsport

Its an original tuning box from www.tuningbox.com

I think it cost about £280 a couple of years ago.

Takes literally 2 mins to remove/install, which I do before any dealer visits.

The car feels so lifeless without it.

Quite impressive figures from a bolt on. Who did you buy through?

Cafe.Racer · 08-04-2007, 10:17 AM

I've got a Steinbauer P-Box to go on, hopefully similar results. Although more expensive that the tuning box, it's a bit "cleverer".

Will have to see what driveability and smoke are like.

330cdsport · 08-05-2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1stnewcar

Quite impressive figures from a bolt on. Who did you buy through?

I purchased it thru a tuning-box agent (I think they are Enfield Engineering) outside Dublin. They just post it out to you.

- Paul - · 08-06-2007, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cafe.Racer

I've got a Steinbauer P-Box to go on, hopefully similar results. Although more expensive that the tuning box, it's a bit "cleverer".

Will have to see what driveability and smoke are like.

Also impressive for the 320d
http://www.steinbauer.cc/index.php?s...t_engine=13640

Original performance:
kWBHPNM120 kW163 BHP340 NM

Power enhancement:
152 kW207 BHP408 NM

330cdsport · 08-06-2007, 06:37 AM

Just found this graph on the Tuning box site for the 163bhp 2.0d engine.

07-05-2007, 01:07 PM	#23
ChrisMWard Captain 14 Rep 686 Posts Drives: E93 320d M Sport, E81 116d SE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Epsom UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 120d SE [0.00] 2007 335d A M Sport [0.00] 1998 M3 Evo [0.00] 2002 330d Sport [0.00] 2004 330d Sport [0.00]	Complete combustion is a problem with diesel engines. Because of the slow burning characteristics, if you inject too much fuel too soon you will lose power and efficiency, not enough and you don't make power. With petrol engines the key to power is to get them to consume more air, with a diesel engine it's to consume more fuel (efficiently). Regards Chris __________________ Previously: 2007 335D MSport E90 Le Mans Blue, 2004 330D A Sport Silver Grey, 2002 330D A Sport Saphire Black, 2001 320D SE Touring Titanium Silver, 1998 M3 Evo Techno Violet, 1996 328i Sport Montreal Blue, 1994 325i Coupe Red, 1989 325i Sport 2 door Dolphin Grey,1986 325i SE 4 door Lachs
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Patman Lieutenant 39 Rep 440 Posts Drives: E91 Touring 320d Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tavannes, Switzerland iTrader: (3) Garage List 2014 M4 F82 [0.00] 2008 X5 E70 3.0sd ( ... [0.00]	here is mine .. I did not drive a lot, but the torque is HUGE, quite UNBELIEVABLE ... 6th gear, highway, the torque which comes is something. Jan from KemPower told me 4 hours to do it, he took only 1h30 !? Nice car NOW P.S. : the number are not as high tahn on kempower's website because of FUEL. I fuelled by TOTAL, which is THE WORST !!! Of course, i choose one, and it's th worst !? Everybody in Belgium told me, and Jan too, JET fuiel company, but with about 800-1000km is 4 days in that country i only saw 1 JET station, and on the road to KemPower after i "tanked" 2 days before __________________ E70 X5 35d & M4 F82 Mods to come for the M4, X5 is only for carrying horses and driving in winter
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08-03-2007, 04:34 AM	#34
ChrisMWard Captain 14 Rep 686 Posts Drives: E93 320d M Sport, E81 116d SE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Epsom UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 120d SE [0.00] 2007 335d A M Sport [0.00] 1998 M3 Evo [0.00] 2002 330d Sport [0.00] 2004 330d Sport [0.00]	Why not go for the BMW Motorsport kit, 245BHP and 410Nm. The engine obviously revs higher as the torque isn't significantly increased over standard. OK I know it's just a bit on the expensive side. Regards __________________ Previously: 2007 335D MSport E90 Le Mans Blue, 2004 330D A Sport Silver Grey, 2002 330D A Sport Saphire Black, 2001 320D SE Touring Titanium Silver, 1998 M3 Evo Techno Violet, 1996 328i Sport Montreal Blue, 1994 325i Coupe Red, 1989 325i Sport 2 door Dolphin Grey,1986 325i SE 4 door Lachs
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ChrisMWard Captain 14 Rep 686 Posts Drives: E93 320d M Sport, E81 116d SE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Epsom UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 120d SE [0.00] 2007 335d A M Sport [0.00] 1998 M3 Evo [0.00] 2002 330d Sport [0.00] 2004 330d Sport [0.00]	It's no joke. It was originally produced for the 120d race car (like the one that won the diesel class in the recent 24hr Nurburgring race). BMW spec. Engine Engine type: four-cylinder inline diesel Displacement: 1,995 cc Peak torque 450 Nm at 3,000 rpm Peak output: approx. 245 bhp at approx. 4,200 rpm Max engine speed: 5,000 rpm Cylinder block: grey-cast Engine control: DDE6.0 Regards Chris __________________ Previously: 2007 335D MSport E90 Le Mans Blue, 2004 330D A Sport Silver Grey, 2002 330D A Sport Saphire Black, 2001 320D SE Touring Titanium Silver, 1998 M3 Evo Techno Violet, 1996 328i Sport Montreal Blue, 1994 325i Coupe Red, 1989 325i Sport 2 door Dolphin Grey,1986 325i SE 4 door Lachs
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