help car wont start. steering lock

chris98m3 · 01-24-2014, 03:42 PM

My battery died yesterday so I charged it and I got the red steering lock symbol. But the car started and drove fine then this morning tried to start but the steering locked. Now wont start

X5-User · 01-24-2014, 05:08 PM

I have seen this problem before but not sure where. I think it is a common problem to 07 models.

chris98m3 · 01-24-2014, 10:06 PM

Anyone with some help?
Out of warranty. Don't wanna to the dealer

Dmacc · 01-24-2014, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris98m3

Anyone with some help?
Out of warranty. Don't wanna to the dealer

I believe you need to go to the dealer to fix the issue, same thing happened to my friend's 07 and they had to have it towed to bmw. Hopefully someone chimes in with a fix.

chris98m3 · 01-25-2014, 04:51 PM

bump

Tiago@VRSF · 01-25-2014, 04:59 PM

You don't need to go to the dealer. Do you have a BT cable? If you do I can send you the file you need to fix this.

This is a common issue with earlier models, most people take the car to the dealer and they replace the steering column but you absolutely do not need to. I've had this happen to my personal E92 twice now when the battery dies.

If you don't have a BT tool, you can buy the $179 version here:

http://www.bavariantechnic.com/buy.aspx

X5-User · 01-25-2014, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

You don't need to go to the dealer. Do you have a BT cable? If you do I can send you the file you need to fix this.

This is a common issue with earlier models, most people take the car to the dealer and they replace the steering column but you absolutely do not need to. I've had this happen to my personal E92 twice now when the battery dies.

If you don't have a BT tool, you can buy the $179 version here:

http://www.bavariantechnic.com/buy.aspx

Do you know why it happens only when the battery dies?

Ingeniator · 01-25-2014, 05:49 PM

maybe the key pairing is stored in volatile memory

Tiago@VRSF · 01-25-2014, 05:57 PM

The wheel lock assembly gets caught in transition when the battery is low. The physical lock is stuck in the between locked & unlocked which is a common occurrence with low power situations like battery failure. In my case the wheel was never actually locked but the car wouldn't turn on either way.

If your steering column is in fact defective, you can repair it (there's a how to on the forums) by lubing the lock assembly after you rip out half the dash.

The first time I had this fixed personally was right after my battery died. Warranty covered it and they replaced the column, second time it happened was after the battery went dead from the car sitting over the winter. Coincidentally this problem always happened to me when the battery was dead.

Jettin123 · 01-26-2014, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

You don't need to go to the dealer. Do you have a BT cable? If you do I can send you the file you need to fix this.

This is a common issue with earlier models, most people take the car to the dealer and they replace the steering column but you absolutely do not need to. I've had this happen to my personal E92 twice now when the battery dies.

If you don't have a BT tool, you can buy the $179 version here:

http://www.bavariantechnic.com/buy.aspx

Good helping out! Makes me want to buy some more VRSF goodies just for the customer service!

chris98m3 · 02-01-2014, 07:41 PM

hey I hooked up the cable but I don't see commands console under the cas

chris98m3 · 02-01-2014, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

The wheel lock assembly gets caught in transition when the battery is low. The physical lock is stuck in the between locked & unlocked which is a common occurrence with low power situations like battery failure. In my case the wheel was never actually locked but the car wouldn't turn on either way.

If your steering column is in fact defective, you can repair it (there's a how to on the forums) by lubing the lock assembly after you rip out half the dash.

The first time I had this fixed personally was right after my battery died. Warranty covered it and they replaced the column, second time it happened was after the battery went dead from the car sitting over the winter. Coincidentally this problem always happened to me when the battery was dead.

I got the cable but I don't see the commands console

evoix · 02-01-2014, 09:02 PM

Had the same problem. Had the car towed and they said they reprogrammed the computer and changed the steering column lock. Under warranty. Took days for them to fix

chris98m3 · 02-01-2014, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evoix

Had the same problem. Had the car towed and they said they reprogrammed the computer and changed the steering column lock. Under warranty. Took days for them to fix

my car is out of warranty

evoix · 02-01-2014, 10:02 PM

Check and see if it was a recall for certain models.

chris98m3 · 02-01-2014, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evoix

Check and see if it was a recall for certain models.

Do u have warranty?

Tiago@VRSF · 02-01-2014, 10:57 PM

Contact the folks over at Bavarian Technic and they should have a solution for you

http://www.bavariantechnic.com/contact.aspx

WedgePerformance · 02-01-2014, 11:12 PM

You can also do this with an INPA K+DCAN cable. I sent the Tools32 command to DR Euro a few months back when another car had the same issue sitting in a parking lot.

4doorbmwpower · 02-01-2014, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

You don't need to go to the dealer. Do you have a BT cable? If you do I can send you the file you need to fix this.

This is a common issue with earlier models, most people take the car to the dealer and they replace the steering column but you absolutely do not need to. I've had this happen to my personal E92 twice now when the battery dies.

If you don't have a BT tool, you can buy the $179 version here:

http://www.bavariantechnic.com/buy.aspx

pleaseeeeee send me those files I was just about to have the car flat bed towed to wilmington (closest dealer to possibly do a steering column replace) the same thing happened to me battery drained cause of snowed in and locked.

Tiago@VRSF · 02-02-2014, 09:19 AM

Shoot us an e-mail and I'll send em over. Please keep in mind you need the BT cable and software for this to work.

4doorbmwpower · 02-02-2014, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiago@VRSF

Shoot us an e-mail and I'll send em over. Please keep in mind you need the BT cable and software for this to work.

I used the contact us tab on the webpage. is that how you wanted me to email you? thanks ahead of time.

WedgePerformance · 02-02-2014, 11:52 AM

More than likely the electronic lock in the column is not bad and just needs to be reset. I'm sure the BT cable can do this as well, but I've only seen this done with Tools32 using an INPA cable. I'm looking for the command. I need to keep this $#!* more organized... I'll post it as soon as I find it.

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WedgePerformance BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 1334 Rep 1,701 Posts Drives: Slot Machines.. Keep Taking $ Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i Sport [9.67]	More than likely the electronic lock in the column is not bad and just needs to be reset. I'm sure the BT cable can do this as well, but I've only seen this done with Tools32 using an INPA cable. I'm looking for the command. I need to keep this $#!* more organized... I'll post it as soon as I find it.
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