[F31-340i]

Reason I ask is that I tried a 330d ED (57 plate) auto touring yesterday and it felt incredibly quick. Does a 335d really feel much faster? Or are they just both VERY quick with the 335d being slightly quicker.

Have to say I was very impressed - what a good car the E91 330d is (and a huge leap on from my current E46 330d). Great sound, very refined. I tried a 320d M Sport too which was initially impressive (felt as quick as my 330d!) for what it is but the 330d really is in a different league.

[Oli]

In a word - Yes, leaps and bounds ahead in performance terms.

[SDRX]

Yep, to avoid a big forum riot i think its safe to say a 335d is much quicker than a 330d. Also has different/wider torque band due to sustained turbo boost.

[NFS]

Originally Posted by ///ajd

Reason I ask is that I tried a 330d ED (57 plate) auto touring yesterday and it felt incredibly quick. Does a 335d really feel much faster? Or are they just both VERY quick with the 335d being slightly quicker.

Have to say I was very impressed - what a good car the E91 330d is (and a huge leap on from my current E46 330d). Great sound, very refined. I tried a 320d M Sport too which was initially impressive (felt as quick as my 330d!) for what it is but the 330d really is in a different league.

I'm probably going to go against the grain a bit here.

They are both quick and powerful cars. The 335d is definitely faster, but the difference is relatively small compared to (say) the difference between a 330d and a Ford Fiesta.

It's very subjective. Both will feel fast, but the 335d will DEFINITELY feel faster.

[F31-340i]

Thanks. Sounds like I need to try one!

[SDRX]

NFS: I agree, that's reasonable

[dxb335d]

What BHP is the 330d?

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

What BHP is the 330d?

231

If you ask me the torque now I won't be impressed.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

231

If you ask me the torque now I won't be impressed.

Why would i know how much torque a 330d has?

231bhp compared to the minimum 286bhp (some more as we know) of a 335d. Let alone torque, it cant feel anywhere near as fast in my opinion.

I can only imagine it feels as fast/is as fast as the A5 3.0TDI which has a similar amount of Horswah.

[F31-340i]

330d
231 bhp, 500 torques

335d
286 bhp, 580 torques

Have to say the 330d greatly impressed me (acceleration/handling) in a way that reminded me of my old E46 M3. It'll be interesting to see if trying a 335d will lead to "must have one" feelings, in the same way that after trying the 330d the prospect of owning a 320d really became a non-starter for me. It may not, but then again the 330d and 335d are not that far away on price at the end of the day.

Suffice to say my current E46 330d never ever reminds me of my E46 M3, apart from the dashboard looking quite similar!

[SDRX]

Best to defer final judgement until you have had a blast in 335d. There is no turning back, end of

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Why would i know how much torque a 330d has?

Because ... when it comes to comparing diesels torque is supremely important and much more representative of performance than horsepower.

The 330d has 500nm of torque - which is a LOT

The 335d has 580nm which is 16% more.

Some of the difference in horsepower comes from the fact that the 335d peaks at 4400 rpm and the 330d peaks at 4400 rpm.

The point is .. the 330d is already a quick car .. the 335d is maybe 15-20% quicker, but it's all relative and the law of diminishing returns applies.

Especially as you can't typically use all of the performance on the road.

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

Because ... when it comes to comparing diesels torque is supremely important and much more representative of performance than horsepower.

The 330d has 500nm of torque - which is a LOT

The 335d has 580nm which is 16% more.

Some of the difference in horsepower comes from the fact that the 335d peaks at 4400 rpm and the 330d peaks at 4400 rpm.

The point is .. the 330d is already a quick car .. the 335d is maybe 15-20% quicker, but it's all relative and the law of diminishing returns applies.

Especially as you can't typically use all of the performance on the road.

I know torque is more important in a diesel, i was merely stating why the hell would I Know about the 330d when i dont care for a 330d and dont have a 330d and never driven a 330d and dont want a 330d.

Im sure its a great car, and im sure its fast enough. But if your saying you cant use al the performane on the road why do people buy 80+k M6's

They might as well buy a fiesta blue or whatever there called.

[NFS]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

I know torque is more important in a diesel, i was merely stating why the hell would I Know about the 330d when i dont care for a 330d and dont have a 330d and never driven a 330d and dont want a 330d.

Im sure its a great car, and im sure its fast enough. But if your saying you cant use al the performane on the road why do people buy 80+k M6's

They might as well buy a fiesta blue or whatever there called.

The thread wasn't about you Carlos

The original poster wanted to know what the relative difference in performance was between the 330d and 335d. As someone who has no interest in the 330d you may not be the best person to comment

As to why people buy an M6 - it's an interesting question. It's a fact that you can't safely use that performance on a public road. My car is plenty quick enough for road use ...

But we all want and strive for bigger and better things, even if they are irrational. It's the human condition matey.

[F31-340i]

Originally Posted by SDRX

Best to defer final judgement until you have had a blast in 335d. There is no turning back, end of

Yes, bit worried about that bit though. I went into the dealer planning on ordering a 320d Edition M Sport touring. After trying a 330d that plan is now firmly in the bin. From what you say trying a 335d could have a similar effect....though as I'm getting old maybe a 330d will suffice.

One thing it did confirm, I was trying to convince my father to not get a 520d Touring, but instead a 530d/535d. Now having tried one of the newer models and seen how quick they are I actually think I will persuade him to get a 520d!!

[dxb335d]

The 335d will be considerably quicker. Enjoy your test drive, use the paddles (incase you end up in a pond) and have some fun.

[ChrisMWard]

Originally Posted by needforspeed

Especially as you can't typically use all of the performance on the road.

Never a more accurate statement made.

I also haven't driven an E9X 330d, but immediately noticed the difference when driving the 335d over the e46 330d (204BHP) that we already had, so much that we had to buy one. Previously we had a 184BHP 330d and it wasn't noticeably different to the 204BHP model.

If you drive one you will probably be hooked.

Regards

Chris

[roofer]

Why have one turbo, when you can have 2

[F31-340i]

Some further thoughts.

I've always gathered that the 335d is seriously quick, though not yet tried one. I had always assumed however that the E91 330d (231) was probably only just a bit quicker than the previous E46 330d.

I did not even go to the garage really interested in a 330d, as I was looking at the tempting discounts on a 320d Edition and was considering the excellent MPG (yeah, I know). I only initially test drove the 330d as I already had one and was curious to see what it was like.

What really surprised me, and hence the reason for the post was the huge gulf between an E46 330d and a 07 ED E9x 330d - this got me thinking, well is there actually that much between a 330d and 335d? Have many people who ordered a 335d actually compared against a 330d? I must confess if I was in the market for a 335d I would have just test driven that, been very impressed and not even considered a 330d (assuming it was just like the E46) - note I'm not criticising as I've had a few doses of "must have the fastest one" syndrome myself. Hence the question about the 330d. Thanks for the replies so far.

[The Accountant]

You didn't specify, I assume you want an automatic?

For some people the automatic is a deal killer (you must get an auto in the 335d).

[F31-340i]

Yes it was a new ED auto 330d with the paddles on the steering wheel. To be honest I wouldn't consider a manual 330d (though I know some prefer manual) as for me the auto suits the 330d's smoothness perfectly.

I wanted to try a manual 320d (as conversely I think if you are going to go cheap and get a 320d, you may as well go the whole hog and have a manual for best mpg) - but they only had an (177 M Sport) auto. It was a good car but not a patch on the 330d.

[roofer]

A 330d will do all you require

A 335d just does it quicker, and the tailpipes look better