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How "Track-ready" is a stock 335i?
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04-04-2007, 09:51 AM | #67 | |
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I have spun a bunch...but never rolled. Nothing like spinning at 90 mph in your street car...(ended up buying a dedicated track car after that). I have seen a number of rolls...an Audi TT rolled in the chicanes (turn 8 and 8a at Sears Point)...and UrQuattro (original quattro Audi) was upside down in the corkscrew at Laguna Seca as I went thru there...the worst one was on a test day at Thunderhill before a race..when two racers collided at high speed at about a 45 degree angle...they both didnt make it. I have film of a Spec Miata taking out another Spec Miata exiting turn 11 at Laguna...banging him into the wall hard...I stayed away from him the rest of the race..I wonder why?
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Teaching for NASA at Infineon...(Sears Point) and didnt have a chance to change to Pagid Orange before the event..went out in Group 4 with 55 other cars (on a 2.3 mile track..55 cars is real fun...NOT). Anyway, brake performance is terrible and I remember that I didnt install the Pagid pads...so then I instruct for my session...and come back to the car and change the pads. I go out next session and take it easy the first couple of laps letting a ton of people pass (remember Group 4 with NASA is pass anywhere..anytime..without signal). Anyway, find a friend of mine in a modified E36 M3 and try to not let him pass..go into turn 7 at Sears and under hard braking the car veers nastily into the wall...whoops...thats not good...get down to turn 11..hairpin..and it does the same thing...I think it is tie rod..or something..but then as I drive..I rule that out.. Do this another three times..and say..something is definitely wrong..and pull into the pits...wait until my next break..and take off the right front wheel to see that the pad is in backward...Great Steve..good work...lucky you didnt kill yourself out there. Learned a lesson that day.
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04-05-2007, 01:28 PM | #74 |
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Street cars I've tracked:
Ford Probe GT Acura Integra Sedan Porsche 928GT BMW 330i Yes, I think my 335i will do just fine. Put it this way, if you don't know the answer to your original question, you won't drive it hard enough to discover the subtle differences. With experience comes safe speed. With speed comes deficiencies. With knowledge of both, you don't need someone else to answer your question. |
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04-06-2007, 08:00 PM | #76 | |
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Most of us are driving our street cars on the track, we know that. Duh.
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04-07-2007, 08:20 AM | #77 |
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here is a link that shows just how 'track ready' and capable the 335 is: http://bmwblog.net/?p=210
with rft's around the nurburgring it was only 4 secs behind the m3. laps take over 7 minutes, so that is pretty damned impressive i thought.
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04-08-2007, 09:30 PM | #78 |
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Any car that is stock put on the track will suffer from brake fade and hot temps. For my first time tracking my 2005 S4 I needed a flush and racing or high temp brake fluid and racing pads. I did have more HP than i needed my car had 380 crank HP this was on Big Willow.
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04-08-2007, 11:44 PM | #79 |
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After actually tracking my 335 with proceed.... I highly suggest a nice set of stiff coilovers, I have the "Sport Package" but they suck. Sway bars and coilovers are next on my list.
Also the type 200 brake fluid is AMAZING compared to stock, make the switch. Its the same color as stock too |
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04-08-2007, 11:46 PM | #80 |
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I would like some but 2 reasons why i won't get the co are 1. it's leased 2. the sports package ride height is low enough to clear parking stations.
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04-09-2007, 08:56 AM | #81 |
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Leasing has never stopped me from modding a car.
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05-06-2007, 11:53 AM | #82 |
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Damn...I forgot you can get a vette in the US for almost $40k USD. up here in Canada it's around $70k CDN which works out around $60k USD...
If I tracked more often, I'd probably buy a S2k out of all those cars. |
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What exactly is the deal with modding a leased car? I mean I assume if you aren't gonna buy the car at the end of the lease you have to take off all the mod parts right...I can't really think of any mods that would be permanent. Do you agree on the mods with the dealer, or just do it and hope they don't find out? |
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05-06-2007, 03:41 PM | #84 |
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05-06-2007, 09:01 PM | #85 | |
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05-07-2007, 01:45 PM | #86 |
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When I turned in my Audi at the end of the lease term..it still had the center vent boost guage, short shifter, and upgraded diverter valve. No one noticed anything..in fact..they didnt even look at the car when I was there. I try to remove most of my stuff when I turn back in a car..but it comes down to time=money and after awhile the cost of removing it exceeds the price I would get if I sold that piece used. I have had my fair share of discussions with service advisors in the past that tried to blame issues on my modifications..but this had nothing to do with leasing / purchasing..it had more to do with covering the repair under the maintenance/warranty contract.
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05-14-2007, 11:07 AM | #87 |
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Getting back on topic - - -
This car is FANTASTIC on the track! Oh my! I used to take my old stock e46 sadan on the track and it was nice but this thing STICKS, has POWER and is just AWESOME! I was at Buttonwillow this past weekend and had a TON of fun! There was another instructor who brought his mom's e90 to the track with R componds and told me that this was just as good stock as his modified e46 M3. Now that's saying something!!!! I had SO MUCH FUN!!!!! Oh, and the oil temp issue. Yes it does get hot but it never went into limp mode and to be honest I wasn't too afraid it would. The needle did certainly move and it did go up but it never gave any signs of not being able to handle it! What a GREAT car!!! |
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05-14-2007, 11:46 AM | #88 |
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Well..I would like it to turn better..mine had nasty understeer. I have the coilovers on now...the exhaust..and the quaife goes in shortly...now I just need some light track wheels, an alignment, and some r compounds..and I am set to retry. :-)
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