Electrical Problems. INPA in German

BeatMW_E90 · 12-12-2021, 09:24 PM

So the old E90 is acting up. Still starts and runs decent enough (good as it's gonna) so I'm hoping this is something simple. However the INPA data as well as my Foxwell scanner enhanced data kinda scares me.
For some reason my INPA is in German. I can only understand about 15% of the trouble code description. But from what I gather it's mostly loss of communication with modules

I am hoping that most of this is my battery is on its way out. I notice low system voltage.

Please see attached INPA logs. Help is appreciated.

E92_William · 12-16-2021, 08:38 AM

All I see there are the typical code people here get when they tune with bimmerlabs and a water pump code. Erase and if it comes back you likely do have a pump going bad though I've seen the wiring go out on some too in pictures here.

INPA is usually in German, at least the codes

hassmaschine · 12-16-2021, 09:28 AM

2FA3 means nothing - 2E85 means your water pump is going to die soon.

BeatMW_E90 · 12-19-2021, 04:59 PM

The water pump was replaced 10k miles ago with a brand new one. Hope that isn't the case. I'm pretty sure i bought it from ECSTuning which would be likely OE spec. IF not it was junk i got off Rock Auto. *facepaolm*
Yes, the car has been coded with bimmerlabs after the 3 stage manifold upgrade.

rjahl · 12-19-2021, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by E92_William

All I see there are the typical code people here get when they tune with bimmerlabs and a water pump code. Erase and if it comes back you likely do have a pump going bad though I've seen the wiring go out on some too in pictures here.

INPA is usually in German, at least the codes

In my opinion, your better off with the German versions of INPA. Translated versions are not always accurate.

What's the worst thing that can happen? you learn a little German. You drive a German car…….

BeatMW_E90 · 12-19-2021, 09:06 PM

I don't mind trying to Sprechen Ze Deutch.

Damnit it's BECK/ARNLEY 1312486. Cheap water pump. But going out at 10k is shocking even for a cheap one IMO.

Also i forgot to mention. I went through the enhanced data with the Foxwell scan tool with the ehnanced features for BMW and found the battery is coded / programmed to the OE 90AH AGM battery. I have a 95AH AGM battery. Could it be as simple as a one of the modules not letting the larger capacity battery fully charge?

Maybe I'll just pull the alternator and have it tested, reprogram for the battery after it is fully charged, clear the codes, and hope for the best.

E92_William · 12-19-2021, 09:55 PM

I use ISTA because I'd rather fully know what I'm reading but google translate works well enough for INPA, I've only learned misfire, disa valves and fan clutch so far

Beck Arnley stuff nowadays is pretty much just rebranded China parts. I wouldn't be surprised if it has started crapping out already. These alternators don't fit in the autozone alternator tester at least the one I went to, so just a heads up if you plan to actually take it off.

BeatMW_E90 · 12-22-2021, 03:20 PM

Is there any chance the water pump codes could be related to low voltage?
Maybe the codes weren't cleared when the pump/thermostat was replaced 10k miles ago? However I doubt that as I had it replaced only because the old one (replaced once before I got the car) had over 70k miles on it.

I was going to try Advance for the alt / batt test as that's where I usually go. Not sure if their test machines would be any different.

rjahl · 12-22-2021, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatMW_E90

Is there any chance the water pump codes could be related to low voltage?
Maybe the codes weren't cleared when the pump/thermostat was replaced 10k miles ago? However I doubt that as I had it replaced only because the old one (replaced once before I got the car) had over 70k miles on it.

I was going to try Advance for the alt / batt test as that's where I usually go. Not sure if their test machines would be any different.

The mileage when the error occurred is displayed. Just compare current miles to the fault data.

BeatMW_E90 · 12-23-2021, 02:34 PM

The only mileage INPA displayed was 279,640 km (173,360 mi) which correlates to when I flashed the PCM with the bimmerlabs 3 stage tune.

BeatMW_E90 · 01-04-2022, 01:12 PM

Had the battery on charge for 7 days then took it to Autozone. The tests read that the alternator has failed diodes and the battery is bad.

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E92_William Captain 1306 Rep 852 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 328xi Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	All I see there are the typical code people here get when they tune with bimmerlabs and a water pump code. Erase and if it comes back you likely do have a pump going bad though I've seen the wiring go out on some too in pictures here. INPA is usually in German, at least the codes __________________ Airplane Mechanic BMW Masochist
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hassmaschine Major General 3966 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	2FA3 means nothing - 2E85 means your water pump is going to die soon.
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BeatMW_E90 Enlisted Member 3 Rep 38 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	The water pump was replaced 10k miles ago with a brand new one. Hope that isn't the case. I'm pretty sure i bought it from ECSTuning which would be likely OE spec. IF not it was junk i got off Rock Auto. facepaolm Yes, the car has been coded with bimmerlabs after the 3 stage manifold upgrade.
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12-19-2021, 09:06 PM	#6
BeatMW_E90 Enlisted Member 3 Rep 38 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	I don't mind trying to Sprechen Ze Deutch. Damnit it's BECK/ARNLEY 1312486. Cheap water pump. But going out at 10k is shocking even for a cheap one IMO. Also i forgot to mention. I went through the enhanced data with the Foxwell scan tool with the ehnanced features for BMW and found the battery is coded / programmed to the OE 90AH AGM battery. I have a 95AH AGM battery. Could it be as simple as a one of the modules not letting the larger capacity battery fully charge? Maybe I'll just pull the alternator and have it tested, reprogram for the battery after it is fully charged, clear the codes, and hope for the best. Last edited by BeatMW_E90; 12-19-2021 at 09:15 PM.. Reason: additional thoughts...
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12-19-2021, 09:55 PM	#7
E92_William Captain 1306 Rep 852 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 328xi Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	I use ISTA because I'd rather fully know what I'm reading but google translate works well enough for INPA, I've only learned misfire, disa valves and fan clutch so far Beck Arnley stuff nowadays is pretty much just rebranded China parts. I wouldn't be surprised if it has started crapping out already. These alternators don't fit in the autozone alternator tester at least the one I went to, so just a heads up if you plan to actually take it off. __________________ Airplane Mechanic BMW Masochist
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BeatMW_E90 Enlisted Member 3 Rep 38 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	Is there any chance the water pump codes could be related to low voltage? Maybe the codes weren't cleared when the pump/thermostat was replaced 10k miles ago? However I doubt that as I had it replaced only because the old one (replaced once before I got the car) had over 70k miles on it. I was going to try Advance for the alt / batt test as that's where I usually go. Not sure if their test machines would be any different.
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BeatMW_E90 Enlisted Member 3 Rep 38 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	The only mileage INPA displayed was 279,640 km (173,360 mi) which correlates to when I flashed the PCM with the bimmerlabs 3 stage tune.
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01-04-2022, 01:12 PM	#11
BeatMW_E90 Enlisted Member 3 Rep 38 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 328i Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Ohio iTrader: (0)	Had the battery on charge for 7 days then took it to Autozone. The tests read that the alternator has failed diodes and the battery is bad.
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