[delmarco]

So said and done on a scale of 1 to 10 how hard is this DIY?
And how expensive is it?
Knowing what we know now.

[ccfj1]

For me it was expensive as I had to get my blind from the states (they are super rare in the uk), and I had to buy a new parcel shelf with the cutout.

That said if you can buy the shelf and blind cheap, then its a pretty simple job to install, (4 or 5), getting the correct jbbr is a bit tricky too (but the info above defo helps)...

Coding is pretty easy with NCSexpert (3 or 4).

I'd say its a 5-7 job overall, cost will depend on shelf/blind and jbbr sourcing.

Any competent diy'er can do this job, if fitting an aftermarket radio (or a set of speakers) is a big job, then please dont start this as it may be too difficult.

[Kerstboom]

Originally Posted by ccfj1

Thats great info mate!!!!

Well done.

Mine defiantly works with the M jbbr (and I can see and code it with ncsexpert), it had an L1 before.

Thanks again John, couldn't have done it without you!!

[Kerstboom]

Originally Posted by ccfj1

For me it was expensive as I had to get my blind from the states (they are super rare in the uk), and I had to buy a new parcel shelf with the cutout..

You can cut the parcel shelf you currently own, no need for buying a new one. On the bottom of the shelf the "cutout" is already drawn.

Originally Posted by ccfj1

That said if you can buy the shelf and blind cheap, then its a pretty simple job to install, (4 or 5), getting the correct jbbr is a bit tricky too (but the info above defo helps)..

Don't forget the console with the switch in the middle of the dashboard. The tricky part here is to find one that exactly matches your car's options (heated seats, PDC etc.) + the blind-button.

Getting a correct JBE should be easy now

Originally Posted by ccfj1

Coding is pretty easy with NCSexpert (3 or 4)..

I can confirm, I never coded anything before and it took me 10~20 minutes.
(I also coded the digital speedometer option )

Originally Posted by ccfj1

I'd say its a 5-7 job overall, cost will depend on shelf/blind and jbbr sourcing.

I agree

Originally Posted by ccfj1

Any competent diy'er can do this job, if fitting an aftermarket radio (or a set of speakers) is a big job, then please dont start this as it may be too difficult.

If you need help with anything just let me/us know

[Kerstboom]

Originally Posted by ccfj1

Thats great info mate!!!!

Well done.

Mine defiantly works with the M jbbr (and I can see and code it with ncsexpert), it had an L1 before.

If I remember correctly you also tried a jbbfr3 H4 version, correct?

Edit:

Originally Posted by ccfj1

Ok, bought a new jjbr (an h4 unit, its supposed to have all the relays installed), installed and coded (blank man file to code the FO), then loaded my jbbr config (E89-JBBFE3R.C40), same version as the original one.

The roller blind does not work still.

I'm lead to beleive that the jbbr maybe needs the correct firmware to support the blind, if anyone can grab the UIF details so that I can flash the new jbbr with the correct version that would be great.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Why did this not work? do you still have this unit? If so could you open it and post a pic of it's internals? I'm very curious if there's a relay for the blind.

[ccfj1]

Originally Posted by Kerstboom

If I remember correctly you also tried a jbbfr3 H4 version, correct?

I did, that did not work for me, I could code it up and the signal was being sent, but no relay working, I assumed a faulty jbbr.

Why did this not work? do you still have this unit? If so could you open it and post a pic of it's internals? I'm very curious if there's a relay for the blind.

I dont, I sent it back via ebay, i opened it up and it did have the realy!! thats why I assumed it was faulty.

[Kerstboom]

Originally Posted by ccfj1

I dont, I sent it back via ebay, i opened it up and it did have the realy!! thats why I assumed it was faulty.

Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.

[ganss]

i have a question
i have build in the rear electric sunblind in a bmw e90
but now it dont work
i know i need to maybe change the jbe i have a h3 in it but i know it is possible that the h3 dont work so i am looking to put in a h4 to make sure it works
at the bmw they say if you build it in after you have to have part nr 61359364819
now is the question if i buy a h4 wil it work whith the car ?
please help need to keep the dog cool in the back

[ccfj1]

Originally Posted by ganss

i have a question
i have build in the rear electric sunblind in a bmw e90
but now it dont work
i know i need to maybe change the jbe i have a h3 in it but i know it is possible that the h3 dont work so i am looking to put in a h4 to make sure it works
at the bmw they say if you build it in after you have to have part nr 61359364819
now is the question if i buy a h4 wil it work whith the car ?
please help need to keep the dog cool in the back

Have you tested the blind to see if the motor is working and used ista-d to see if the switch is working??

I can't say that the H4 will work or not, I know that when I used an H4 it did not work.

An H3 should work, but you will need to make sure that the H3 is using the same (or newer) firmware AND that you dump the currect config (using NCSexpert) from the old H3.

DO NOT just buy an H3 and plug it it, this could damage you car.

[ganss]

Have you tested the blind to see if the motor is working and used ista-d to see if the switch is working??

yes tested the blind on battery whith installation ,up an down its ok ,left it up
whiht ista-d test the switch its working

I can't say that the H4 will work or not, I know that when I used an H4 it did not work.

An H3 should work, but you will need to make sure that the H3 is using the same (or newer) firmware AND that you dump the currect config (using NCSexpert) from the old H3

i have a h3 did no config it whith ncsexpert (maybe i need to let it do by someone)you mean by that to put it on so you can use the sunblind or do i need to reprogram it
i have a picture of the inside off the h3 box and i am wonder if the right relais is in it i have read that its not always there

thanks for you help

[ccfj1]

Originally Posted by ganss

i have a h3 did no config it whith ncsexpert (maybe i need to let it do by someone)you mean by that to put it on so you can use the sunblind or do i need to reprogram it

Correct, most H3 modules are fitted to convertibles, so the config on the "new" H3 could be for that of the convertible, also, the H3 maybe from a completely different car (like a 320 or a 118 etc), so you need to dump your config and then install the "new" H3 and then upload your saved config to the "new" H3.

So your H3 config is on the "new" H3

Do not start the car with the "new" H3 until you have done the coding.

i have a picture of the inside off the h3 box and i am wonder if the right relais is in it i have read that its not always there

thanks for you help

H3 should have all the correct relays.

[ganss]

ok thanks
its al a matter of programing
the old h3 to a newer version

[ccfj1]

Correct.

If you have NCSexpert, then its a simple enough job.

[GnomeChild]

Originally Posted by Kerstboom

Just found out that the part number for the cable that connects the sunshade with the JBE is:

61116940341

Yellow cable goes to pin3
White cable goes to pin30



This guy mounted a sunshade into a e46, but used a E90 cable with the above mentioned number:

http://bmwfanatics.ru/forumvb/viewto...0667&p=3993263

Saving this so I don’t forget next time

Does anyone know where I can source this? Dealer has no clue what to do; called multiple ones and they all say they can’t get it

[ccfj1]

Make it mate.

If you were in the UK, I'd make you one and put it in the post, I've made loads of these for people in the past.

All you need is 5m of speaker wire and the 4x pins.

Go to a car junk yard (where they break cars), and then cut the 54 pin plug from the Jbbr (under the glovebox).

Then remove 4 pins and solder the wires/pins to your 5m speaker cable and then install.

You may need the 3 pin purple plug for the blind end.

If you get stuck, let me know and if you are happy to cover the costs, i'll make you one.

[br3akm3]

hello guys, im stuck with dis sunblinder things... Installed, connected to pins. Installed button bar becouse it was empty at all. Switch button bar have pdc, heats, sunblind. With lights on, bar lighting to, but clicking any button wont work. I guess if open circuit heat seats should blink lights few times? Im something missing or i need code my new installed bar. Car e92 335i 2009, module 2JBBF.

[ccfj1]

Happy new year.

Originally Posted by br3akm3

hello guys, im stuck with dis sunblinder things... Installed, connected to pins. Installed button bar becouse it was empty at all. Switch button bar have pdc, heats, sunblind. With lights on, bar lighting to, but clicking any button wont work. I guess if open circuit heat seats should blink lights few times? Im something missing or i need code my new installed bar. Car e92 335i 2009, module 2JBBF.

1: have you coded the blind into the cars cas and lfrm
2: have you coded the blind into the HVAC module.
3: have you replaced the JBBR for the correct one (with the blind relay modules).

4: does the car have heated seat?

Rear blind and heated seats are not just plug and play, they need coding.

If the seat lights blink a few times and go off, the either no heated seats or no coding.

The rear blind must have the correct jbbr (as in MUST), it will not work with the one you have installed.

The JBBR needs to be the correct type, in my case the M (not l1,l2,l3,h1,h2,h3,h4), some say the h3 and/or the h4 will work, but i tried both and neither did, only the M jbbr worked.

You must code the car (cas and lfrm) with the correct option code (sa VO $415) and then save, and then blank code the hvac, (and then recode with you custom configs if you have any).

Coding VO $415 to the cas and nfrm will tell the car it has the blind and black coding the hvac will set the buttons up for the correct items. (the blind).

HTH

[rathersmart]

just did this retrofit on a 2006 325i no ccc and k-line can

I used:
2008 sunblind, wiring, and buttons (donor car had cic)
2006 original IHK
2012 jbbfe 3r or jbbfe iiir kl(from a convertible)

coded Vin via winkpf first
then vo via ncs expert for jbbr and ihk

considering this was a mish mash of random parts, I'd say this retrofit is very possible

[delmarco]

I've been trying to track down a JBBE! So close....I found a guy selling a bunch of E90 rear shelves with rear shades AND E90 JBBEs but he mixed up the JBBEs and don't know which JBBE go with which car since he also has a ton of JBBE and shelves from non shade cars! UGH....
We are trying to figure out what JBBE part number has the shade relay?
All are from late LCI 2010/2011 Sedans.


One of these four 'original' parts numbers below are the only JBBEs that would be placed in a BMW 3 Series at the time my 2011 335i xDrive was made (4/2011)

61359229883 03/01/2010 — 06/07/2011

61359247476 09/01/2010 — 05/26/2011

61359267424 03/21/2011 — 06/17/2011

61359253486 03/01/2011 — 03/19/2014

There is also a replacement part number 61359364819 that supersedes these previous numbers when shopping for a brand new replacement part.

At least one of these part numbers will have the sun shade relay in them. To give you an idea I attached two photos showing the insides of identical looking JBBEs but inside when you open them one has the sunshade relay and the other don't.

The best way to really know is when you remove both the sunshade and JBBE from the same car. If the car has a sunshade then the JBBE has the relay.

In a normal situation these relays are usually put inside the switching unit or at the sun shade body itself. The relay is just a reversing polarity switch for the to make the shade go up and down. BMW decided to hide it away inside the junction box which makes an E90 power sunshade retrofit a nightmare to do.

If you can't track the part number down then any of your 2011 3 series that had a sunshade and a parted out JBBE will work in my car.

[ccfj1]

Originally Posted by delmarco

I've been trying to track down a JBBE! So close....I found a guy selling a bunch of E90 rear shelves with rear shades AND E90 JBBEs but he mixed up the JBBEs and don't know which JBBE go with which car since he also has a ton of JBBE and shelves from non shade cars! UGH....
We are trying to figure out what JBBE part number has the shade relay?
All are from late LCI 2010/2011 Sedans.


One of these four 'original' parts numbers below are the only JBBEs that would be placed in a BMW 3 Series at the time my 2011 335i xDrive was made (4/2011)

61359229883 03/01/2010 — 06/07/2011

61359247476 09/01/2010 — 05/26/2011

61359267424 03/21/2011 — 06/17/2011

61359253486 03/01/2011 — 03/19/2014

There is also a replacement part number 61359364819 that supersedes these previous numbers when shopping for a brand new replacement part.

At least one of these part numbers will have the sun shade relay in them. To give you an idea I attached two photos showing the insides of identical looking JBBEs but inside when you open them one has the sunshade relay and the other don't.

The best way to really know is when you remove both the sunshade and JBBE from the same car. If the car has a sunshade then the JBBE has the relay.

In a normal situation these relays are usually put inside the switching unit or at the sun shade body itself. The relay is just a reversing polarity switch for the to make the shade go up and down. BMW decided to hide it away inside the junction box which makes an E90 power sunshade retrofit a nightmare to do.

If you can't track the part number down then any of your 2011 3 series that had a sunshade and a parted out JBBE will work in my car.

61359229883 is a Master with the blue plug on the left

61359247476 is a Master with the blue plug on the left

61359267424 is a Master with the blue plug on the left

61359253486 is a Master with the blue plug on the left

Any one of these will be fine for the blind install. Just make sure your blue plug is on the left (there are right handed ones).

Dump the code from your JRE and then load it to the new one, then add the blind to the VO and then default code the JRE.

Remember to code the HVAC too

[delmarco]

Originally Posted by ccfj1

61359229883 is a Master with the blue plug on the left

61359247476 is a Master with the blue plug on the left

61359267424 is a Master with the blue plug on the left

61359253486 is a Master with the blue plug on the left

Any one of these will be fine for the blind install. Just make sure your blue plug is on the left (there are right handed ones).

Dump the code from your JRE and then load it to the new one, then add the blind to the VO and then default code the JRE.

Remember to code the HVAC too

Wait so all these parts number has the sun blind relay inside? How can that be?

[ccfj1]

Because they are from different years and firmware versions.

It common for bmw to have multiple parts numbers for similar modules