BMW vs. Pothole = 2 completely crack wheels

Potty_Pants · 08-21-2009, 05:37 AM

Runflats.... FOR THE MFW !!!

you people can talk as much smack as you want but the truth is shown here Runflat tires are the best thing since toilet paper !

ppp

MrDummy · 08-21-2009, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jred22

holy shit.

Exatcly what popped in my mind the second I saw the 1st pic...

I have NEVER seen 2 cracked rims b4 at once in my life, and I am an old man at 35.

AlanQS · 08-21-2009, 06:36 AM

Although the run flats held the wheels together, they are partly responsible for the damage.

In the U.K., our minor roads are pretty poor and 19" BMW rims are cracking on the inside face all over the country. Most of the wheels affected are the rears which sit on 30 profile run-flats. These things might as well be rigid because all road shocks get passed onto the wheel without any cushioning effect from the tyre at all. The wheels always crack on the inside face where the wheel isn't reinforced and have happened to people who have not kerbed the car or smashed into deep potholes (outer face of the wheel is unmarked).

BMW will not honour any warranty repair as they say British roads are too poor for the wheels and tyres and they also blame road humps (sleeping policemen). In other words, BMW are saying that 19" wheels and run flats are not fit for purpose for our roads but continue to sell them! Great!

We are pretty sure that the run flats are to blame because M cars and Alpinas with 19" wheels don't have these problems - the difference, neither uses run flats.

Perfectus · 08-21-2009, 07:03 AM

Wow! Glad you're OK!! That was NOT a pothole, more like a canyon.

LuisBoston · 08-21-2009, 08:05 AM

That pothole looks like our normal streets here in Boston. Sucks tho.

iheartsole · 08-21-2009, 08:08 AM

damnnn that sucks. at least you have a good reason to get rims now

BK · 08-21-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jred22

holy shit.

+1 Exactly what I was going to write.

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Originally Posted by Ramos

I've managed to damage the tires (bubbles on the sidewall) but the rims same as yours 162's held up like a champ

Looks like he has 17" 159s, not 18" 162s. Still, that's f-ing unreal.

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Originally Posted by rc'Z

Unreal, that's not a typical pothole in the middle of the road. It's the side of the road, you are lucky you didn't loose control and wreck for it to break the wheels like that.

+1 calvino, this is going to come out of your pocket, not the city/county's. You didn't hit a pothole, you went off the road and nailed the edge. Good thing you didn't get hurt! I'm sure you were crapping your pants and am impressed that you didn't lose control. IMO this is something you should take up with insurance like any other accident.

ERIC212NYC · 08-21-2009, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jred22

holy shit.

My words exactly!

LuvMyRide · 08-21-2009, 09:52 AM

Daammmmmmmmmmnnnn Bro... So sorrrryr man.. I have never seen anything like that in my life.. :\

Year's_End · 08-21-2009, 10:14 AM

what a pile of ass, that blows dude.

SDMostro · 08-21-2009, 11:20 AM

Holy crap!
Good time to upgrade...but I wonder, would warranty cover this? I know it's not exactly equipment failer per se, but it sort of is...

ellipsis212 · 08-21-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jred22

holy shit.

my sentiments exactly. you sure you didn't run over a park bench?

E92-Lighting · 08-21-2009, 12:10 PM

it happens, but damn potholes ftl

02themax · 08-21-2009, 12:36 PM

I'm not surprised after seeing the picture, next time stay ON the road. You should be glad that your ok and more damage wasn't done to your car.

ceb · 08-21-2009, 12:37 PM

...this damage was caused by hitting an off road obstacle. The authorities have an obligation to keep the areas between the white lines in operational condition, while drivers have the obligation to keep their car between the white lines.

If the pickup truck was on your side of the road, then he (in theory) is responsible for the damage as he ran the OP off the road. In reality, the OP has to pony up to get new wheels and tires.

While road obstacles would usually fall under the comprehensive portion of an insurance claim (and wouldn't increase future premiums,) an "off road" excursion such as this would fall under the collision portion and might increase premiums.

My suggestions would be to buy a new set of wheels (you can probably reuse the TPMS sensors from the two damaged wheels) and sell the two remaining wheels separately...

Bimmerdriver17 · 08-21-2009, 12:50 PM

jeeeeeeeez Louise!

citrixscu · 08-21-2009, 01:01 PM

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuude....

calvino · 08-21-2009, 01:37 PM

UPDATE: today I took off the wheels to see if there was any damage to the brakes or suspension.

the front wheel did not crack completely it crack 60%

the caliper has few scratches and rock chips(not sure if there were there before I paint them about a year ago) the rotor and suspension are intact.

the rear wheel is completely crack, the caliper got in contact with the wheel because the paint is pell-off ( probably when I had to drive the 100ft to get off the road), but is not cracked and the rotor and suspension seems fine.

TwnTrboCAT1212 · 08-21-2009, 01:44 PM

Jesus Christ man that is a HELL of a hit! What'd you do drive off a friggen parking garage roof and land on your wheels?

calvino · 08-21-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Potty_Pants

Runflats.... FOR THE MFW !!!

you people can talk as much smack as you want but the truth is shown here Runflat tires are the best thing since toilet paper !

ppp

my car does not have Runflats I had Michelin's pilot primacy. I think with RFT the damage would had been even worse.

Mahhvinn · 08-21-2009, 02:18 PM

damn!

jopa489 · 08-21-2009, 02:24 PM

That sucks! Holy shit.

Didn't even know you guys had potholes in FL. Must have been one hell of a crater to cause that. I would get them checked out to see if the wheels were actually defective. Maybe you'll get a new set from BMWNA. Otherwise, go aftermarket or get some OEM ones from the "for sale" forums here. That's probably your best (read: least expensive) option.

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AlanQS Colonel 243 Rep 2,811 Posts Drives: Jaguar XE P250 HSE Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 430i m-sport G ... [0.00]	Although the run flats held the wheels together, they are partly responsible for the damage. In the U.K., our minor roads are pretty poor and 19" BMW rims are cracking on the inside face all over the country. Most of the wheels affected are the rears which sit on 30 profile run-flats. These things might as well be rigid because all road shocks get passed onto the wheel without any cushioning effect from the tyre at all. The wheels always crack on the inside face where the wheel isn't reinforced and have happened to people who have not kerbed the car or smashed into deep potholes (outer face of the wheel is unmarked). BMW will not honour any warranty repair as they say British roads are too poor for the wheels and tyres and they also blame road humps (sleeping policemen). In other words, BMW are saying that 19" wheels and run flats are not fit for purpose for our roads but continue to sell them! Great! We are pretty sure that the run flats are to blame because M cars and Alpinas with 19" wheels don't have these problems - the difference, neither uses run flats.
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SDMostro Enlisted Member 32 Rep 45 Posts Drives: M340, 987, Macan Turbo, QV Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Holy crap! Good time to upgrade...but I wonder, would warranty cover this? I know it's not exactly equipment failer per se, but it sort of is...
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ceb NHTSA Nazi 28 Rep 1,983 Posts Drives: 335ix Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD iTrader: (1)	While we feel sorry for the OP.... ...this damage was caused by hitting an off road obstacle. The authorities have an obligation to keep the areas between the white lines in operational condition, while drivers have the obligation to keep their car between the white lines. If the pickup truck was on your side of the road, then he (in theory) is responsible for the damage as he ran the OP off the road. In reality, the OP has to pony up to get new wheels and tires. While road obstacles would usually fall under the comprehensive portion of an insurance claim (and wouldn't increase future premiums,) an "off road" excursion such as this would fall under the collision portion and might increase premiums. My suggestions would be to buy a new set of wheels (you can probably reuse the TPMS sensors from the two damaged wheels) and sell the two remaining wheels separately...
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jopa489 Major General 122 Rep 6,594 Posts Drives: Anything with Wheels Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (9)	That sucks! Holy shit. Didn't even know you guys had potholes in FL. Must have been one hell of a crater to cause that. I would get them checked out to see if the wheels were actually defective. Maybe you'll get a new set from BMWNA. Otherwise, go aftermarket or get some OEM ones from the "for sale" forums here. That's probably your best (read: least expensive) option. __________________ X7 LCI // Incoming C7 ZR1 ZTK // Sebring + TRX // Hydro + Raptor Gen1 Roush // Tuxedo
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