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      05-13-2008, 06:37 PM   #1
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I've been flagged and denied - almost solved.

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      05-13-2008, 06:39 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear bro... any course of action you can take against this?? Maybe call a lawyer...
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      05-13-2008, 06:40 PM   #3
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sucks man....i hope the best for ya
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      05-13-2008, 06:42 PM   #4
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They cant deny service without a cause. They need to PROVE that the procede caused the pump failure. Go back in and ask them for proof. Or go to another dealer, you should only be flagged at that dealer. (???)

Dealerships around here dont care, You really should have taken the procede out when you went it for the fuel pump. They wouldnt have cared about the intake, plus how can an intake cause a fuel pump failure when its running more efficent?
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Ouch man, this is a dark day for everyone who needs to take their car in.
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      05-13-2008, 06:44 PM   #6
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try. and try again. it will work. best of luck.
And: do not tell people you voided the warranty and then ask for warranty work.....
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      05-13-2008, 06:45 PM   #7
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This is They cannot void your warranty unless your mods caused damage. They cannot just void it.

They should replace your fuel pump because it was a recall anyway.

I don't know....try to push more and mention a lawyer. Look up your California laws and see if you can do anything about it.
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      05-13-2008, 06:46 PM   #8
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I dont understand how they can deny a recall...I'd fight for it
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      05-13-2008, 06:46 PM   #9
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Not another one! That sucks man, because BMW knows their fuel pumps are shit. Did the dealer seem like he was on your side at all?

GL.. scares the hell outta me.
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sorry to hear neema. honestly doesnt always get u what u want. remember dealers are likely dishonest too.

take that shit out completely and go to another dealer. fuck their flag. if ur car is clean they cant say shit. if they say it's flagged say it's coz of wheels/drop and cosmetic shit the other dealer "assumed" u have more mods
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Its illeagal to "VOID" a warranty. All they can do is deny service. You definitly need to back in and argue a litte and not get pushed around. They will back down.

They must prove your procede caused the damage, if they cant then tough shit, they will have to fix it. I still dont get why you didnt take it out since you were going in for a pretty big issue. A fuel pump is not a small minor issue.

Make friends with an SA, honestly thats what you should have done in the first place. Thats what we all should do so we dont ever get cornered. When you go in for service give an SA $20 or something and tell him lunch is on you. ALways take the car to the same SA, youd be surprised how far this would go.
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They cant deny service without a cause. They need to PROVE that the procede caused the pump failure. Go back in and ask them for proof. Or go to another dealer, you should only be flagged at that dealer. (???)

Dealerships around here dont care, You really should have taken the procede out when you went it for the fuel pump. They wouldnt have cared about the intake, plus how can an intake cause a fuel pump failure when its running more efficent?
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This is They cannot void your warranty unless your mods caused damage. They cannot just void it.

They should replace your fuel pump because it was a recall anyway.

I don't know....try to push more and mention a lawyer. Look up your California laws and see if you can do anything about it.
They CAN void that part of your warranty based on mods, all the need to prove is a CONNECTION between them NOT that it caused the failure.

There is however a nice little term called pattern of failure, and in this case a fuel pump EASILY falls into this category and should be replaced without PROOF that the mods caused it to fail where it otherwise would not.
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      05-13-2008, 06:54 PM   #13
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The black flag sucks. Sorry bro, good news is you could test the waters of a turbo swap
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Make friends with an SA, honestly thats what you should have done in the first place. Thats what we all should do so we dont ever get cornered. When you go in for service give an SA $20 or something and tell him lunch is on you. ALways take the car to the same SA, youd be surprised how far this would go.
I remember reading he is very tight with his SA. Even bought him gifts. Doesnt look like it helped. Sucks!
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      05-13-2008, 06:57 PM   #15
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that sucks, but im sure everything will work out. If they start flagging everyone someone will sue them.
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      05-13-2008, 06:58 PM   #16
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Went in for an oil change and fuel pump replacement, which there was a recall for anyway. . . . . played it fair and honest with the dealer knowing that one way or another, they would/will find out about my mods. I'm beyond upset right now. They wont do anything to it and have flagged it. . . . seriously, I'm extremely down about this. I've been so anxious, nervous, and worried all these weeks about this situation, and now, the worst outcome that could have happened to me, happened to me.

Please, save the "You pay to play," and "you should have known" comments to yourself. I'm not new to this forum or ANY of the issues currently circulating on the forum regarding the 335 and warranty issues. So unless you have something positive or enlightening to say. . . . I'd sincerely appreciate it if you guys kept the rubbing of the issue in my face to a minimum. Try to understand the situation I, as well as others, are in. I wasn't even given a chance. . . . I've talked to Shiv and he's disappointed with this non sense as well. They say nice people finish last, well, I'm sure it's because they let people walk all over them. Should I have taken my procede and intake out and tried to fraud the dealer? Sure, but why. . . . we all know that they can/will find out if it's been tampered with. The techs and I had honest conversations about BMW and their crack down tactics. Its a dead end.

I'm sorry about this super emo post guys, but to a die hard enthusiast who has loved his car for over a year now, this is very disturbing news.

shit chokes me up.
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      05-13-2008, 07:00 PM   #17
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you have a fuel pump failure?
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      05-13-2008, 07:00 PM   #18
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sucks bro. like everyone else said. be aggressive. hold your nuts in your hand and go in there cussing and yelling if you have to. Mention a lawyer, if u have a friend or family member thats a lawyer throw his name out and talk to him to give them a call. it'll rattle their balls. they'd rather do a $500 repair than fk with lawyer fees and the bad press.

PS take the procede out first. not the intake. so they think the intake was the mod which is harmless.
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      05-13-2008, 07:06 PM   #19
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Well, it may not help much, but you sure provided valuable information for the rest of us here. We now have a better idea of what we are up against, although I can honestly say I am not surprised.

Who knows; with everything going on, we may see much more of this happening.

All I can offer is get your car fixed and enjoy it!
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How can they deny you an oil change? That's not even part of the warranty...that's maintenance.
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Just saw the other thread - weren't you only going in for a diag readout? Give us more info when you can, maybe we can help out.
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      05-13-2008, 07:25 PM   #22
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This is b.s.

Among other things (like threatening to get a lawyer) you should complain to NHTSA about this. They already have a file open on the 335i fuel pump failure. If enough people complain and point out that this failure put their safety at risk, NHTSA can force BMW to make this a mandatory recall (vs. voluntary). BMW has to pay for mandatory recalls, even retroactively and even if your warranty is voided, so save your bill if you do get stuck with it.

Link for NHTSA:

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/
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