[blue2fire]

Originally Posted by BK

Top Gear lap times:

BK, that XKR has the old engine, if iam not mistaken. The new AJ V8 Gen 3 has a lot more poke.

[blue2fire]

Originally Posted by TwinTurboXI

Fact: From Motortrend the 2010 XFR weighs 4378 pounds.

The M5 weighs a hair over 4000, regardless of this aluminum frame you so highly praise, the XFR weighs almost 400 pounds more.

Did you miss my first post?

No, the XK and the XJ are Aluminium. The XF is a rebodied S Type.

[TWiTCHY]

Originally Posted by BK

Top Gear lap times:
...
46. 1:25.3 - BMW M3 E90 Sedan
47. 1:25.7 - Lotus Evora
48. 1:25.7 - Audi RS4[12]
49. 1:25.7 - Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
50. 1:25.8 - Lamborghini Gallardo (wet)
51. 1:25.9 - Morgan Aero 8 GTN[13]
52. 1:26.0 - BMW M3 CSL (very wet)
53. 1:26.0 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black series
54. 1:26.0 - BMW Z4M
55. 1:26.0 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ320[14]
56. 1:26.2 - BMW M5[15]
57. 1:26.2 - Porsche 911 Carrera S (997)
58. 1:26.2 - Brabus S Biturbo Roadster
59. 1:26.3 - Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst
60. 1:26.4 - Lotus Exige (mildly moist)
61. 1:26.7 - Porsche Cayman S[16]
62. 1:26.7 - Jaguar XFR
...
135. 1:34.2 - MINI Cooper S Works[24]
136. 1:34.2 - Ford Mondeo ST220
137. 1:34.7 - Jaguar XKR (melted snow)
138. 1:34.9 - Ford Focus ST (wet)
139. 1:35.0 - Volvo S60 R

/apologies for the troll feeding

[NemesisX]

Originally Posted by BMW>(insert car brand)

I don't know about you, but I love the 335i as a daily driver. And why is everyone who is jealous about someone's car automatically use the lame "daddy's car" as an excuse. It offends the people who actually work for their cars. Besides who would drive their supercars out everyday. And do you even know anyone who has a veyron?

The people who have the veyrons, the slr mclarens, simply don't waste time posting on these sorts of message boards.

We do have a family friend who has a veyron, but I don't understand how that's relevant to what I said.

[NemesisX]

I mean let's be real here, you said in another post "my friend who is 16 years old..."

people with veyrons don't have 20-25 year old friends. teenagers/young 20s individuals have 20-25 year old friends.

People with veyrons/slr mclarens, any type of supercar are older and don't post "LOL!!!" on message boards.

Don't take this the wrong way I don't mean to offend, but someone with $1 million in cars just does -not- post on message boards like this.

And in the .01% chance they do, they DEFINITELY don't advertise their million dollar collection in their signature, it's far too tacky/tasteless.

They are almost always very discreet.

[JFU]

Originally Posted by NemesisX

I mean let's be real here, you said in another post "my friend who is 16 years old..."

people with veyrons don't have 16 year old friends. teenagers/young 20s individuals have 16 year old friends.

People with veyrons/slr mclarens, any type of supercar are older and don't post "LOL!!!" on message boards.

Don't take this the wrong way I don't mean to offend, but someone with $1 million in cars just does -not- post on message boards like this.

And in the .01% chance they do, they DEFINITELY don't advertise their million dollar collection in their signature, it's far too tacky/tasteless.

They are almost always very discreet.

+1
people who are really truly successful, dont rub it into others that they are successful. they prefer to be in the background most of the time, its how they got to be that successful. but hey, nothing wrong with showing off, i think its just a stage that most people have to go through before they either become successful or realize that there is no need or have nothing to show off.

as for feeding the troll, i'm all for it haha.
anyone with a logical brain will not get tied down like a fanboy to any one brand as many others have mentioned.
a lot of it has to do with personal taste. i wont even begin to mention some of the discrepancies in what has been mentioned, as most of them have already been brought up.

ps. i wonder what happens to trolls if we feed them too much... i v watched this thread for a while now. it would definetely be very interesting to see if he posts back

[EnjoixE92]

dont u wish you got one? so take that jag and make it as a new toy for your bonghole! =D

[orys]

Originally Posted by Alpine

So why do you drive a Porsche?


IBTL

he's not driving a Porsche mate, he's actually driving............THIS !!!

[captainaudio]

Originally Posted by pcarturbo911

FACT:
An M3 will not outperform an XKR nor a XFR. Jag XKR is aluminum body with 510hp V8 Supercharged. The aluminum body is 40% lighter than steel cars. You must not know your Jags.

Over the years I have driven a 1954 XK120 a 1959 Mark IX, a 2003 XJ Sport, a 2004 XK8 convertible and a 2007 XKR coupe. How many Jaguars have you owned?

As an aside I am an older (than many here at least) person who posts to internet forum and although I don't have any friends with Veyrons I have several friends a with Ferraris inclucing one who owns two Enzos and another who has a collection of several classic Ferraris. As far as I know neither of them post to Internet forums.

P.S. The 1954 and the 1959 Jags were not purchased new. I am not THAT old (and I can't afford even one Enzo or a collection of Classic Ferraris)


CA

[jaychou1987]

Originally Posted by NemesisX

The people who have the veyrons, the slr mclarens, simply don't waste time posting on these sorts of message boards.

We do have a family friend who has a veyron, but I don't understand how that's relevant to what I said.

My friend's dad has a Veryon and also has a E90 335i, so thats why I asked.

Originally Posted by NemesisX

I mean let's be real here, you said in another post "my friend who is 16 years old..."

people with veyrons don't have 20-25 year old friends. teenagers/young 20s individuals have 20-25 year old friends.

People with veyrons/slr mclarens, any type of supercar are older and don't post "LOL!!!" on message boards.

Don't take this the wrong way I don't mean to offend, but someone with $1 million in cars just does -not- post on message boards like this.

And in the .01% chance they do, they DEFINITELY don't advertise their million dollar collection in their signature, it's far too tacky/tasteless.

They are almost always very discreet.

My 16 year old friend is a family friend who I help cuz he has slight autism.
As for the sig part, I guess you do have a point, I apologize for being tacky.

[Express]

cool. i wont own one.

[captainaudio]

Originally Posted by pcarturbo911

FACT: Aston Martin borrows Jaguar Designs from the old XJS to design the DB7.

ACCURATE FACTS: The Aston DB7 looked nothing like an XJS. Both the DB7 and Jag XK8 were built on the XJS platform. The styling borowed a lot more from the Classic E-Type than it did from the XJS.

[captainaudio]

Originally Posted by blue2fire

BK, that XKR has the old engine, if iam nhot mistaken. The new AJ V8 Gen 3 has a lot more poke.

I was referring to the XKR with the older engine. The new model has the 500 HP engine. These Nordlische times are moot anyway since there it is very unlikely that there is anyone on this forum with the skills to even come close to those times. All of these cars (M3, M5, XKR, XKR) have limits that are way to high to be approached on public roads by anyone who does not have a death wish. Another thing that is never taken into consideration in these discussions is how easy (or difficult) it is to drive these cars at the limit. There are cars out there that can show very good lap times in the hands of a professional but are a real handful for most drivers.

CA

[CubanJJ09]

Originally Posted by Indy335iCp

It's more sexier people! MORE SEXIER! You can't argue with that. More sexier adds 50 bhp at least.

LOLOL

jags don't equate to the corn in my shit

[BK]

I'm surprised the thread is still open! To be clear about my earlier post, I watched that XFR vs. M5 Top Gear video and was very impressed by the XFR. It looks awesome. At the end of the video, they reveal that the XFR finished slightly behind the E60 M5 when the Stig drove it around their track. That made me want to look up the times to see where the E90 M3 fell on the list.

I have to say, I was extremely surprised the E90 M3 got a better time around the TG track than the E60 M5 (although the E46 CSL beating the M5 isn't a surprise). Still, it's hard to compare because those times are so variable, since they don't bother waiting for good weather.

[pcarturbo911]

Again the XFR> Anything BMW ever made. Better yet Jaguar> than your favorite car manufacture. Jaguar does it better than them all. Point Blank.

Jaguar "Art of Performance"

[MCMLXXXIX]

you have got to be kidding me

last post...epic fail

[DylanPS]

Originally Posted by pcarturbo911

Again the XFR> Anything BMW ever made. Better yet Jaguar> than your favorite car manufacture. Jaguar does it better than them all. Point Blank.

Jaguar "Art of Performance"

Prove it.

[ZuerstBMW]

Originally Posted by pcarturbo911

Again the XFR> Anything BMW ever made. Better yet Jaguar> than your favorite car manufacture. Jaguar does it better than them all. Point Blank.

Jaguar "Art of Performance"

I saw one in Miami this weekend and
Looks like a cheap Chrysler.
What are you 3 years old? TARD

[ohaywood]

1. It's ugly, IMO.
2. The M5 is N/A, the V10 sounds nicer, and is still better according to Clarkson.
3. We all know that a BMW will always feel like more of a driver's car than a Jag.
4. Throw a supercharger on an M5 and it will kill the XFR.
5. Of course it will beat an M3... that's a stupid comparison. But once again, throw a supercharger on an M3 and it will destroy the XFR.
6. BMW FTW.

[ohaywood]

In that case, why are you here? Also, there's no way a Jag is better than your 911 Turbo if that's really what you drive.

Originally Posted by pcarturbo911

Again the XFR> Anything BMW ever made. Better yet Jaguar> than your favorite car manufacture. Jaguar does it better than them all. Point Blank.

Jaguar "Art of Performance"

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