[Benjiiiw]

Good morning guys, I currently am looking at purchasing my first bmw, being a e92 335i

I am currently away, and as such will be looking at a prepurchase inspection. It seems like Stateroads seems to be the go.

Anyway, i wanted to get your thoughts on if it's a good buy as it's the highest km car I will have purchased.

It will be approx 175,000km, and is around $17,000.
It's a 06 model N54.

Its a metallic sapphire black paint with Dakota Leather Veneto Beige thats the full beige, not just the seats and wood trim.

It has the listed option.

Comfort access
Business Satellite navigation system
Pro Logic7 sound system upgrade
Bluetooth with integrated I-drive phone book system
Active Cruise
Xenon adaptive headlights
High beam assist
Lighting package
Sunroof

Another reason why i think it is a good buy is due to 170,000km's equating to 100,000 miles, but under the last 15,000km's has had a lot of the maintainence items that i have read, that go around this mark such as:

JB4 with the MHD backend Flash
AMS FMIC
VSRF Catless down pipes
Full Exhaust system
Eldor Coil packs
Brand new AFE Cold air intake
Brand new NGK plugs
Brand new injectors - index 12
50mm Teil BOV
ARM Charge pipe
ARM Silicon pipe upgrade kits
Turbo fully rebuilt
Watergates repaired
New Water pump fitted
New HPFP fitted
Oil filter housing seals done
New radiator and connections replaced
New F32 M sport 19” wheels
Dunlop Sport run flats (front)
Toyo R888 (rear)

It has been serviced every 10,000km's since 60k and has full logbook history through a bmw dealership nearby.

It states a 1/4 mile time of 12.5 seconds and a 4.2 second 0-100.
Reason for selling is needing a bigger car for family.

What is your thoughts? A great buy for a first bmw owner or should i be wary?

Thank you in advance,

Ben.

[Socket]

Keep away imo
08 is the oldest you should buy
Plus 175 K is getting up there
You can expect to add another $5000, $6000 in maintenance on top of your purchase price
Save you pennies and buy something younger and with less Kms

[Gee-Dog]

R888 on the rear - this is a track tyre, and would worry me. F32 rear wheels are probably the wrong offset, and may be fitted with spacers - these may or may not be road legal.

When I was looking, I wanted 2009 or newer for the CIC (rather than a CCC).

[Benjiiiw]

Thanks for the replys guys.

In regard to the maintainence items, what else would need to be ticked off, apart from what has been done recently? Just to future reference as i thought most of thr things that go have been replaced, but i may indeed be missing a few things.

The Toyo tyre on the back is from a drag session, where the owner said was too much wheel spin, so put the toyo's on and went again, and got the 12.5 1/4 mile time. But stated it has only seen the track twice.

I wouldn't mind as such taking it to a few cruise sessions or off street racing for a bit of fun, but it will primarily be a daily driver.

In regard to the performance mods carried out, how much would this roughly equate to, as would it also save money but looking at one that has x amount spent on modification, as i would be looking to go to at least fbo, maybe more after a few years?

Should i still be put off?

Thanks again guys

[Delta0311]

$17k for a 06 built techincally 07 335. HELL NO! And yes i know that is about $13k US dollars. High mileage and overpriced in my opinion

[tova86]

it's a Trap!!

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by Benjiiiw

Thanks for the replys guys.

In regard to the maintainence items, what else would need to be ticked off, apart from what has been done recently? Just to future reference as i thought most of thr things that go have been replaced, but i may indeed be missing a few things.

The Toyo tyre on the back is from a drag session, where the owner said was too much wheel spin, so put the toyo's on and went again, and got the 12.5 1/4 mile time. But stated it has only seen the track twice.

I wouldn't mind as such taking it to a few cruise sessions or off street racing for a bit of fun, but it will primarily be a daily driver.

In regard to the performance mods carried out, how much would this roughly equate to, as would it also save money but looking at one that has x amount spent on modification, as i would be looking to go to at least fbo, maybe more after a few years?

Should i still be put off?

Thanks again guys

The onwer was racing the car and it has over 100k miles on it. Come on what does that tell you?

[Benjiiiw]

Thanks for the replys guys.

I know it may seem to be not treated well due to racing, but i know some guys who really look after their cars, even if they take them to a track, over some people who dont care anout their daily.

My train of thought was basically:

With the recent maintainance of spark plugs, oil filter seals, hpfp, waterpump, radiator, turbos rebuilt, wastegate rattle fixed etc this would then equate to maybe $6000 of repairs.

Then the mods for performance plus the jb4 would equate to another $5000-$6000.

So i thought that in this instance, it would save money and time as while it's at 170,000 km's all the items that start to fail are already done. Whereas if i got one at 90,000 km's then quite soon it may need all these items done and thus add another 6k on top of the purchase.

Is this the wrong way to look at this / early e92's? I'm after a black e92 with full beige interior, sunroof and black exterior. Around the 18k mark atm seems to only be 6 cars, which are all around 170,000km's.

Do i just need to be more patient?

Any advice would be appreciated as i want to enjoy a new purchase, without repairs asap. After a year or so i wouldn't mind if preventative maintainance was done.

Sorry for lots of questions, just dont want to jump into a completly new field of cars and be burnt/unaware, and you guys are first hand owners, so i really appreciate your feedback.

This is the ad if anyone want to have a look also :

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...SSE-AD-2580263

Thanks again!

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by Benjiiiw

Thanks for the replys guys.

I know it may seem to be not treated well due to racing, but i know some guys who really look after their cars, even if they take them to a track, over some people who dont care anout their daily.

My train of thought was basically:

With the recent maintainance of spark plugs, oil filter seals, hpfp, waterpump, radiator, turbos rebuilt, wastegate rattle fixed etc this would then equate to maybe $6000 of repairs.

Then the mods for performance plus the jb4 would equate to anoter $5000-$6000.

So i thought that in this instance, it would save money and time as while it's at 170,000 km's all the items that start to fail are already done. Whereas if i got one at 90,000 km's then quite soon it may need all these items done and thus add another 6k on top of the purchase.

Is this the wrong way to look at this / early e92's? I'm after a black e92 with full beige interior, sunroof and black exterior. Around the 18k mark atm seems to only be 6 cars, which are all around 170,000km's.

Do i just need to be more patient?

Any advice would be appreciated as i want to enjoy a new purchase, without repairs asap. After a year or so i wouldn't mind if preventative maintainance was done.

Sorry for lots of questions, just dont want to jump into a completly new field of cars and be burnt/unaware, and you guys are first hand owners, so i really appreciate your feedback.

This is the ad if anyone want to have a look also :

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...SSE-AD-2580263

Thanks again!

What is your budget range? And the end of the month have much extra cash do you have that you can put into emergency repairs?

[Benjiiiw]

Hi Delta, my budget would ideally be around 18k for purchase, and if something went fairly soon, i'll have around 5k just in case, that builds by 1000 a month.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by Benjiiiw

Hi Delta, my budget would ideally be around 18k for purchase, and if something went fairly soon, i'll have around 5k just in case, that builds by 1000 a month.

Ok so almost $14k. You should be able to get something with less mileage from the e9x era. I wouldnt rush it. I would save up more cash and get something with way less mileage

[Socket]

You seem pretty keen on this car, so is completely up to you

At the end of the day, I would not touch anything below 2008
$17,000 is over priced for this car with that many Kms
The mods are not that extensive... I mean JB4 is out of date and should be removed in favor of MDH
$14,000 would be a reasonable price
I would make that offer and walk if he knocks you back

[Benjiiiw]

Thanks for the replys again guys!

When you say the mods arn't that extensive socket, is there local places with better prices to order these parts from? I priced up whats been done, and it came to about $9,000, but a lot of parts would come from the states?

Thanks for your feedback though, got me looking around as maybe being patient until a lower km one comes up would be better, or as you suggested offer him a bit less.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by Benjiiiw

Thanks for the replys again guys!

When you say the mods arn't that extensive socket, is there local places with better prices to order these parts from? I priced up whats been done, and it came to about $9,000, but a lot of parts would come from the states?

Thanks for your feedback though, got me looking around as maybe being patient until a lower km one comes up would be better, or as you suggested offer him a bit less.

At over 100k miles the first thing you should do with the car is have a trusted mechanic give it a full inspection. I wouldn't think about modding unless I know the car has a full clean bill of health. As far as mods go, shop around.

[Delta0311]

Another point to ponder. You are buying a car that has been TUNED and RACED. Obviously this puts a lot more wear and tear on the motor and tranny, even if it is meticulously maintained.. If I was you I'd look for a 335 that has less mileage, is bone stock, was well maintained, and most of its millage is highway based.

[Socket]

Originally Posted by Benjiiiw

Thanks for the replys again guys!

When you say the mods arn't that extensive socket, is there local places with better prices to order these parts from? I priced up whats been done, and it came to about $9,000, but a lot of parts would come from the states?

Thanks for your feedback though, got me looking around as maybe being patient until a lower km one comes up would be better, or as you suggested offer him a bit less.

For example this from facebook today
2009. 165000 Km for $14,250

Eddie Craig 2009 335i e90 n54. 165ks, slight waste gate rattle would probably be fixed with a tune, reasonable condition, tassie based. 14,250 all standard preventative maintenance done ie injectors, water pump, hoses, gaskets etc. if interested pm me and I’ll send photos

[Socket]

Originally Posted by Benjiiiw

Thanks for the replys again guys!

When you say the mods arn't that extensive socket, is there local places with better prices to order these parts from? I priced up whats been done, and it came to about $9,000, but a lot of parts would come from the states?

Thanks for your feedback though, got me looking around as maybe being patient until a lower km one comes up would be better, or as you suggested offer him a bit less.

Mods listed are

JB4
FMIC
Down pipes
Coil packs
Cold air intake
BOV
Charge pipe

These mods are basic starting mods tbh
Each can be picked up for $200 to $1000 at most

If there was some suspension work (coil overs, limited slip diff) or cosmetic work (M3 front bar, M sport rear bumper, after market rims) or internal upgrades like (M3 steering wheel, NBT head unit, after market speakers) etc etc then you would be saving heaps

Problem is if you upgrade the engine with a tune etc, you really need to spend some money on the suspension, diff etc to get the most of it

Welcome to N54 mod life lol

[Socket]

Originally Posted by Benjiiiw

Thanks for the replys again guys!

When you say the mods arn't that extensive socket, is there local places with better prices to order these parts from? I priced up whats been done, and it came to about $9,000, but a lot of parts would come from the states?

Thanks for your feedback though, got me looking around as maybe being patient until a lower km one comes up would be better, or as you suggested offer him a bit less.

Oh best place to find parts is right here on the E90 post
The Aussie classified section is a great place for 2nd hand parts
Generally you can pick them up for 1/3 of new price

https://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=118

If you want new bit FCP euro (USA) is the place to buy

[Coupes33]

My biggest concern for me would be the state of the engine and especially the transmission after 170,000kms. I haven't read anything about the transmission being serviced. The auto transmissions don't like track work and with that many kms on it, I would be surprised if there wasn't some slippage in the clutches. With the car being a Sept 2006 built wouldn't personally concern me as mine is the same vintage. Mine is still running the original injectors and HPFP whereas later models have had these changed several times.

[Benjiiiw]

Thanks fot the replys guys!

Thanks for the pointers Socket! I'll check out the classified on here for parts when the time comes also

Thanks for the reply Coupes33, i shall ask about the transmission servicing. Is it part of a normal logbook service at all? It says it has full logbook history through one bmw dealer where the car was originally purchased.

Also the track work, was 2 drag nights at willowbank, would that stress the auto out much, as i though maybe that would be more circuit work etc.

The mods where mostly done around the 160,000km mark, and the jb4 went on at 145,000km by itself, if that helps determine how much extra wear and tear it has.

Thanks again guys, thinking of still maybe considering it, but dropping a few $$ as socket suggested, maybe asking $14,000 due to the high km's, a pre inspection being done and coming out with good results, and see what the trans servicing is like.

Also coupes33, being a 06 as yourself has, is there any major parts or maintainance that you have done, that hasn't been covered here?

Thanks again guys!

[Coupes33]

Originally Posted by Benjiiiw

Thanks fot the replys guys!

Thanks for the pointers Socket! I'll check out the classified on here for parts when the time comes also

Thanks for the reply Coupes33, i shall ask about the transmission servicing. Is it part of a normal logbook service at all? It says it has full logbook history through one bmw dealer where the car was originally purchased.

Also the track work, was 2 drag nights at willowbank, would that stress the auto out much, as i though maybe that would be more circuit work etc.

The mods where mostly done around the 160,000km mark, and the jb4 went on at 145,000km by itself, if that helps determine how much extra wear and tear it has.

Thanks again guys, thinking of still maybe considering it, but dropping a few $$ as socket suggested, maybe asking $14,000 due to the high km's, a pre inspection being done and coming out with good results, and see what the trans servicing is like.

Also coupes33, being a 06 as yourself has, is there any major parts or maintainance that you have done, that hasn't been covered here?

Thanks again guys!

No Benji. I have had a very good run with my car as far as maintenance issues are concerned. I have had no electrical issues, I only changed the water pump and thermostat at 93,000kms because I had them out to install upgraded turbos. All of my costs have gone into getting more power and trying to get into the 10s over the quarter. I have owned my car for 9yrs and done 80,000kms in it.

[Benjiiiw]

That sounds like a good run there coupes33!

May i ask how many km's do you have now?
And what did you end up going with for your turbos? Something like a pure stage 2?

Did you consider a single turbo swap at all?

Thanks!

Ben