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      Yesterday, 11:29 PM   #4445
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That is stunning.
Thank you, excited to see how AW over Oyster looks in person

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I thought you had posted that it was already under deposit?
Yes there was a deposit ahead of me which I honestly thought that was it. Turned out that the person with the deposit was another dealer trying to buy then flip the car so they immediately gave his deposit back. Soon I get a text message telling me itís mines if I still want it...too good to be true tbh because normally once someone puts a deposit thatís it. Apparently there was another person behind me with a third deposit and like another 15 interested buyers waiting.

Now gotta figure out how to own two wagons and the garage space, which cars stays outside . Maybe time to find a safe offsite storage for the other cars
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Thank you, excited to see how AW over Oyster looks in person



Yes there was a deposit ahead of me which I honestly thought that was it. Turned out that the person with the deposit was another dealer trying to buy then flip the car so they immediately gave his deposit back. Soon I get a text message telling me itís mines if I still want it...too good to be true tbh because normally once someone puts a deposit thatís it. Apparently there was another person behind me with a third deposit and like another 15 interested buyers waiting.

Now gotta figure out how to own two wagons and the garage space, which cars stays outside . Maybe time to find a safe offsite storage for the other cars

Niceeeee. Glad someone on the forums got it instead of a dealer for flipping it. I was tempted but had just bought a bluewater so I posted it.

Speedy shipping pickup too it seems. I am waiting for intercity lines to pick up mine in CA. Maybe they'll pass each other on the road... haha
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Niceeeee. Glad someone on the forums got it instead of a dealer for flipping it. I was tempted but had just bought a bluewater so I posted it.

Speedy shipping pickup too it seems. I am waiting for intercity lines to pick up mine in CA. Maybe they'll pass each other on the road... haha
Congrats and thank you for the lead Sendmewagons. Looks like Bluewater over Oyster, sheís a beaut

Yeah, my transport guys is very quick and donít waste time when it comes to picking up cars. Never had an issue and always ahead the best price around especially with closed transport.
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It is mindblowing the money people spend on BaT E91s, especially from 1600veloce. He really knows how to butter them up and get a premium. The current one for sale is already at 11k with 4 days remaining. I wouldn't pay 10k for that car.
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It is mindblowing the money people spend on BaT E91s, especially from 1600veloce. He really knows how to butter them up and get a premium. The current one for sale is already at 11k with 4 days remaining. I wouldn't pay 10k for that car.
For real. There are 15 cars on AutoTrader right now that beat that one up on BaT.
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Agree! You can get an enthusiast owned and better specced E91 on the forums here for similar end prices than these low spec versions.
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That's what dealers do. He has figured out a loophole. Most of the time if you're gonna be selling used cars you have to buy them at an insurance or dealer auction to get a cheap enough price to be able to flip it after fixing for good money on the used market. The fact that he is able to buy a car from say Autotrader (which is by no means the cheapest site) and polish it up and sell it on BaT for a massive profit goes to show how crazy the people on that site are.
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That's what dealers do. He has figured out a loophole. Most of the time if you're gonna be selling used cars you have to buy them at an insurance or dealer auction to get a cheap enough price to be able to flip it after fixing for good money on the used market. The fact that he is able to buy a car from say Autotrader (which is by no means the cheapest site) and polish it up and sell it on BaT for a massive profit goes to show how crazy the people on that site are.
He's buying them from auto auctions according to Carfax.
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He's buying them from auto auctions according to Carfax.
Is he then the only one that knows the true market for these cars at the auctions? Seems like it.
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Is he then the only one that knows the true market for these cars at the auctions? Seems like it.
No. He is a dealer who has an in with BaT, the place where they go for way over normal market price because he butters them up.
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No. He is a dealer who has an in with BaT, the place where they go for way over normal market price because he butters them up.
It's the buyers that are hard to explain or understand. Anyone can look at AutoTrader or CarGuru to see what these cars are worth. The 6MT are hard to value because there are so few of them, but if that automatic goes for more than $14-16K, then those people are nuts. ..... well, the >$30K 6MT recently was nuts too...
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I think even though the buyers are nuts it's also because bring a trailer still to this day has the aura that stuff posted there is the best of the best. So people that go there are people looking to get the best e91 or thinking that they're getting it and don't care about how much they have to pay for it. Add to that some professional pictures and a car that seems to be in perfect shape.
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BaT, EAG...its the same thing. For whatever reason people are spendy with covid lockdown (saving money by not vacationing?), and prices are ridiculous lately across the board. As long as people continue to patronize these sites, they will continue to command premiums. Possibly people feel more comfortable with BaT cars because of the level of detail in pictures, carfax, etc? Its such a peanut gallery though - unless you bring something sweet to the table, be prepared to have it ripped apart.

Rare is rare, and I get people bidding up m-sport manual e91s, but it does boggle my mind when people pay what they do for these run of the mill AT examples - especially when not even sport nor low mileage. I have heard that BaT is severely backlogged with listings, so I am sure they do play favorites with letting frequent sellers jump the line...which is unfortunate.
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C&B seems to be more reasonable than BaT for now, a couple E91s on there sold for very reasonable prices. Let's hope it stays that way.
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