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      02-06-2008, 12:01 PM   #45
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+1...didnt make ANY sense.

so all the sound clips of eis race we heard were prob fake ones.

anyone have a sound clip of the REAL eisenmann race?
The GENUINE Eisenmann Race is what you all know as "Meisterschaft". The Genuine Eisenmann Sport will soon be available in the US for purchase as it has never been here. New pictures and videos will be available as soon as IND gets it's first shipment from Germany.
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      02-06-2008, 12:22 PM   #46
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So Eisenhaus were getting exhausts made in Korea and sold them in that states with Eisemann name on them? So thats why Eisenmann dropped them...

Wow so all those Race and Sport versions are all fake!? At least the Eisenmann Meisterschaft exhaust was the only real deal.

Wish this wasnt true but I know Palella personally and the guys at industry enough to know they wouldnt make this up.

Thanks for looking out for the community!
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So Eisenhaus were getting exhausts made in Korea and sold them in that states with Eisemann name on them? So thats why Eisenmann dropped them...

Wow so all those Race and Sport versions are all fake!? At least the Eisenmann Meisterschaft exhaust was the only real deal.

Wish this wasnt true but I know Palella personally and the guys at industry enough to know they wouldnt make this up.

Thanks for looking out for the community!

Thanks Jesal. I just want the E90post community to know the truth so that we can move forward and not be scammed again.
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      02-06-2008, 12:31 PM   #48
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So Eisenhaus were getting exhausts made in Korea and sold them in that states with Eisemann name on them? So thats why Eisenmann dropped them...

Wow so all those Race and Sport versions are all fake!? At least the Eisenmann Meisterschaft exhaust was the only real deal.

Wish this wasnt true but I know Palella personally and the guys at industry enough to know they wouldnt make this up.

Thanks for looking out for the community!
Ya man, insane stuff going on. I just talked to anthony@INDUSTRY and he broke it down and told me everything about whats going on. I hope things will be able to get fixed but thats highly unlikely.

Industry is the real deal, Eisenhaus is a fluke.



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I was incredibly close to ordering an exhaust through eisenhaus. Certainly not happening now...

Looks like I will be ordering it through IND-distribution now . Thanks for shedding light on a hazy situation
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^ yep.

Its crazy because Palella could have kept quiet and sold the korean made exhausts with the owner at Eisenhaus to make a huge profit.

Luckily for us hes an honest guy and dropped them as soon as he found out the truth.
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      02-06-2008, 01:29 PM   #51
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great looking out Anthony! another reason to only trust IND and A&L Autobody for me when it comes to performance mods like this

i can't even believe this happened.
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Good thing I ordered mine from Tony and didn't get no fake shit.

So it seems I have a "race" now
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my friend ordered a masterchief for 328xi coupe and sec 1 and 2 back in the day. would that be fake as well? he bought directly from eisenhaus.com.

what will happen to those with fake exhausts?
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Wow, crazy stuff.
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I just happened to call Anthony about an hour ago asking a question about my Eisenmann section 1 I just received and we went off topic and started discussing what were all reading right now. It's truely sad on how a lot of businesses are currently run. Odds are... actually im 100% sure my shit is fake, but im not gonna flip out over it. I loved the way how other Bastuck systems sounded with the Eisenmann Section 1 pipes and this doesnt change anything since the pipes I bought most likely match what others are using currently. I appreciate Anthony going out of his way explaining to me what was going on and how everything happened. It's great to see Industry take action and communicate with Eisemann directly. I don't blame Industry at all for what has happened since they are really just the "middle man". I look forward to ordering from them again!

It's going to be interesting to see how Eisenhaus handles this situation
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OK, now Im concerned. I just purchased an Eisenmann Sport for 335 from IND in December, Ilia assisted me. Is my exhaust the real deal or the fake? And if fake, what can we do about this?
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OK, now Im concerned. I just purchased an Eisenmann Sport for 335 from IND in December, Ilia assisted me. Is my exhaust the real deal or the fake? And if fake, what can we do about this?
If your mufflers look like this, you unfortunately have a fake:


You need to call Eisenhaus like Anthony explained and go from there.
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Okay... confused... so the ones from Eisenhaus... were they real Meisterschaft units made by Eisenmann??? Falsely marketed as Eisenmann? :
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Okay... confused... so the ones from Eisenhaus... were they real Meisterschaft units made by Eisenmann??? Falsely marketed as Eisenmann? :
As long as your muffler looks like the flat, ribbed version, you're good. It's just not a "Meisterschaft," it's real name is "Race."
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Correct me if im wrong and this is only for the 335 systems....

Eisenmann Race in the U.S is fake if bought through Eisenhaus
Eisenmann Sport in the U.S is fake if bought through Eisenhaus

Eisenmann Meisterschaft sold in the U.S is really the real Eisenmann Race thats made in Germany. Thats the real deal but with a different name.
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Correct me if im wrong and this is only for the 335 systems....

Eisenmann Race in the U.S is fake if bought through Eisenhaus
Eisenmann Sport in the U.S is fake if bought through Eisenhaus

Eisenmann Meisterschaft sold in the U.S is really the real Eisenmann Race thats made in Germany. Thats the real deal but with a different name.
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wait, so now meisterchaft is shit(even if Eisenhaus claims they're being made in Japan now) and Eisenmann is the real deal?
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Luckily for us hes an honest guy and dropped them as soon as he found out the truth.
Once again
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wait, so now meisterchaft is shit(even if Eisenhaus claims they're being made in Japan now) and Eisenmann is the real deal?
Its confusing so let me see if i can explain it better.

Eisenhaus imported a real Eisenmann exhaust. Eisemann calls this exhaust their "race" version. But Eisenhaus renamed it to Eisenmann Meisterchaft for whatever reason. They sold that to everyone in the U.S.

Then Eisenhaus made a sport and race version from korea or japan. They imported them here and labeled them as Eisenmann race and sport. Eisenmann found out recently and dropped Eisenhaus's contract.

So now Eisenhaus is taking their own version of sport and race (they will be "touring" and "GT")and changing the brand name to Meisterchaft. SO you will be hearing about a Meisterchaft Race and Sport thats made in either Korea or Japan.

In otherwords, from now on when you hear the word Meisterchaft, its no longer should be associated with Eisenmann products that are made in Germany.

IND will be selling them the way Eisenmann named them from the start There will be a Eisenmann race which is the old Eisenmann Meisterchaft and a Eisenmann Sport that will be coming shortly. From what I been told, the real Eisenmann Sport has yet to be imported to the U.S for the 335.
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everything seems clear now. but how can Eisenhaus take their own exhaust and brand it as Meisterchaft? wasn't it supposed to be a registered name by Eisenmann since they originally made the Meisterchaft exhaust for E46 M3?
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So is my Meisterschaft real? On my 330i?
I just bought it about a month ago though, from IND

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