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      05-07-2008, 08:58 PM   #1
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2008 Engine of the Year. BMW kills it.

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Sub 1-Liter: Toyota 1.0L three-cylinder
1.0L - 1.4L: VW 1.4L TSI Twincharger
1.4L - 1.8L: BMW-PSA 1.6L Turbo
1.8L - 2.0L: VW/Audi 2.0L Turbo FSI
2.0L - 2.5L: Subaru 2.5L Turbo
2.5L - 3.0L: BMW 3.0L twin-turbo inline-six
3.0L - 4.0L: BMW 4.0L V8
Above 4.0L : BMW 5.0L V10


Link to the complete results and point tally: http://www.ukipme.com/engineoftheyear/categories.html

Best New Engine of 2008 went to BMW’s 2.0L twin-turbo diesel (123d). Green Engine of the Year 2008 was awarded to Toyota 1.5L Hybrid Synergy Drive (Prius). But perhaps the most surprising was Nissan’s absence from the ceremony, with rival Porsche stamping its authority on the awards. The new GT-R’s motor was overlooked, in favour of the Porsche 3.6L Turbo (911 Turbo, 911 GT2), which picked up Best Performance Engine 2008.

For ten years now, the BMW Group has led the world’s most prestigious engine competition. The result in 2008: Awards for four BMW engines and a MINI power unit.

Munich / Stuttgart. With six awards for five engines gained at this year’s “International Engine of the Year Awards”, BMW has successfully defended its position as the world’s leading manufacturer of efficient high-performance power units. For the second time in succession, the 3-liter inline six engine with Twin Turbo and High Precision Injection has won the overall ranking in this most significant international engine competition. In addition, the 300 hp engine employed in the BMW 3 Series and 5 Series, the BMW 1 Series Coupe and Convertible, as well as the new BMW X6, repeated last year’s victory in the 2.5 to 3-liter engine category.

Only one engine had previously ever succeeded in repeating overall victory at the “International Engine of the Year Awards”: the 5-litre V10 high-revving engine employed in the BMW M5 Sedan, M6 Coupe and M6 Convertible received top honors in 2005 and 2006. This year the 500 hp high-end power unit won the “Above 4-liter” category. BMW M GmbH was successful in posting another winner: the 414 hp V8 engine in the new BMW M3 won the category for engines in the 3 to 4 liter category. Furthermore, the 2-liter four-cylinder diesel with Variable Twin Turbo technology employed in the BMW 123d received the award for “Best New Engine” of the 2008. And the 1.6-liter four cylinder with Twin Scroll Turbocharger and direct gas injection employed in the MINI Cooper S managed to repeat last year’s win in the 1.4 to 1.8 liter class.

For the first time in the history of the competition, the title “Best New Engine of the Year” has been awarded to a diesel engine. The 204 hp four-cylinder diesel with Variable Twin Turbo has earned this award due to a unique combination of performance and efficiency. As the world’s first full-aluminum diesel engine, it delivers specific output of more than 100 hp per liter of displacement. At the same time, in the BMW 123d, it delivers average fuel consumption of 5.2 liters/100 km in an EU test cycle, equivalent to 45 miles/US gallon, and a CO2 emission level of 138 grams per km. This renders it a fine example of the BMW EfficientDynamics development strategy in action.

With its current win of six trophies, the BMW Group continues to dominate the engine competition which has been held now for ten years. The repeated success of the Twin Turbo inline six engine is the sixth overall victory for the company since the foundation of the “International Engine of the Year Awards” in 1999. The bandwidth of the BMW Group’s currently successful engines is also remarkable. They range from the 172 hp four cylinder of the MINI Cooper S to the two high-revving power units produced by the BMW M GmbH.
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Repost or not, I love seeing BMW getting recognition for what it does best: ENGINES!!!!
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I would say that the MB 6.3L motor should win the 4.0 and larger.
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I would say that the MB 6.3L motor should win the 4.0 and larger.
why because it acheives in 6.3 litres, what BMW can achieve in 4?
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I would say that the MB 6.3L motor should win the 4.0 and larger.


I would say you are wrong!!!!
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why because it acheives in 6.3 litres, what BMW can achieve in 4?
Oh ya I forgot. That V10 they are talking about with only 2 more cylinders than MB needed.
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I would say you are wrong!!!!

I'ts my opinion and I guess you have yours.
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I would say that the MB 6.3L motor should win the 4.0 and larger.
The fact that you think its a 6.3L engine shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

The AMGs have a 6.2L V8, its only referred to as the 63 to pay tribute to the classic Mercedes 6.3L.

The 6.2L AMG is garbage, its makes low tq for being such a large displacement engine (~450lbft) and makes the same hp as BMW achieves with only 5.0L

Not to mention that the ///M V10 revs to 8250 RPM and the 6.2 AMG only to 6800 RPM. The AMG revs less than the 3 liter engines in the non-M 3er cars
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I'ts my opinion and I guess you have yours.
sell ur bmw...go buy a MB...and join their forum...you may be happier.....
weird statments from a so called bmw owner!
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sell ur bmw...go buy a MB...and join their forum...you may be happier.....
weird statments from a so called bmw owner!
Because I have a BMW I have to only like BMW? I love all kinds of cars.
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The fact that you think its a 6.3L engine shows that you don't know what you're talking about.

The AMGs have a 6.2L V8, its only referred to as the 63 to pay tribute to the classic Mercedes 6.3L.

The 6.2L AMG is garbage, its makes low tq for being such a large displacement engine (~450lbft) and makes the same hp as BMW achieves with only 5.0L

Not to mention that the ///M V10 revs to 8250 RPM and the 6.2 AMG only to 6800 RPM. The AMG revs less than the 3 liter engines in the non-M 3er cars
Sorry about that you are right about the 6.2L motor. I forgot about that. Anyway who cares that MB uses 6.2L to make more power than the V8 M3. It makes more power and is also faster. And when you talk about the MB 6.2L vs the M5 M6 motor. BMW has to have a V10 to make what MB makes with a V8. So your whole argument goes right out the window.
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Sorry about that you are right about the 6.2L motor. I forgot about that. Anyway who cares that MB uses 6.2L to make more power than the V8 M3. It makes more power and is also faster. And when you talk about the MB 6.2L vs the M5 M6 motor. BMW has to have a V10 to make what MB makes with a V8. So your whole argument goes right out the window.
If you dont care about the displacment then you might as well add 0.8L to your 6.2L and you'll end up with 7L and 505hp, guess the Z06 should've won huh?
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If you dont care about the displacment then you might as well add 0.8L to your 6.2L and you'll end up with 7L and 505hp, guess the Z06 should've won huh?

Or we can put the MB SL65 AMG 6.0L 36 valve Biturbo with 604HP and 738 lb-ft? But the ZO6 + the new ZR1 motor is sick also.
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sell ur bmw...go buy a MB...and join their forum...you may be happier.....
weird statments from a so called bmw owner!
Guys, cool it. Why is everyone getting so uptight? it's not as if any of us actually designed these engines

Seriously though, SLV335I has his opinion and you have yours. You dont have to tell him to sell up and take his business elsewhere just because he thinks MB have a great engine lol.
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Oh ya I forgot. That V10 they are talking about with only 2 more cylinders than MB needed.
increased displacement increases power more exponentially than adding cylinders, increasing cylinder count is more efficient.
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he thinks MB have a great engine lol.

obviously no one here got the joke. i mean come on. really.
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increased displacement increases power more exponentially than adding cylinders, increasing cylinder count is more efficient.
what exactly do you mean by more efficient? Improves the motor's overall efficiency? More efficient at increasing the power?
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obviously no one here got the joke. i mean come on. really.
Personally, I wouldnt say Mercedes make the best engines in the world. However, I do like the C63 and I have heard great praises about its performance capability in many aspects. BimmerLoyalist has given a nice write-up about what he thinks of his new C63 and it sounds very impressive. I do trust his opinion since we agree on most things

The point I was trying to make though, is that people are always ready to chew eachother up on this board just because of a difference of opinion. It gets to the point where it's really annoying. It's like badge whores. I hate them .
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